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Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin

There are 2745 comments on the Log Cabin Democrat story from Aug 1, 2013, titled Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin. In it, Log Cabin Democrat reports that:

Americans' attitudes about their economic future are sharply divided by race, with whites significantly less likely than blacks or Hispanics to think they can improve their own standard of living.

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#1585 Aug 18, 2013
Savant wrote:
It is a curious thing that Blacks and Hispanics are MORE optimistic than whites about their economic future even though we are collectively WORSE off than whites. Unemployment is higher among us. We have less accumulated intergenerational wealth (thanks to slavery and Jim Crow), and we LOST a greater proportion of what wealth we had during the recession than did whites.
Does it really make sense for WHITES to be more pessimistic?
The slavery and Jim Crow issues have been hashed to death on here. But, please explain how blacks lost more of their wealth during the recession than did whites.

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Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#1586 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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The slavery and Jim Crow issues have been hashed to death on here. But, please explain how blacks lost more of their wealth during the recession than did whites.
On at least two points: Both loss of jobs and loss of homes were proportionately greater in Black communities during the recession than among whites.
But maybe you can explain why it is that whites are LESS optimistic than Blacks or Hispanics even though they're collective better off.

GrouchoMarxist

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#1587 Aug 18, 2013
Savant wrote:
<quoted text> On at least two points: Both loss of jobs and loss of homes were proportionately greater in Black communities during the recession than among whites.
But maybe you can explain why it is that whites are LESS optimistic than Blacks or Hispanics even though they're collective better off.
Obviously, because whites have more at stake than economically oppressed minorities do.

You're supposed to be "educated"?...lol... and you couldn't figure that out? You needed an ignorant crustacean to explain it to you?

What a dunce you are.

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#1588 Aug 18, 2013
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>On at least two points: Both loss of jobs and loss of homes were proportionately greater in Black communities during the recession than among whites.
But maybe you can explain why it is that whites are LESS optimistic than Blacks or Hispanics even though they're collective better off.
I can buy the home loss due to Clinton's strong arming banks into granting home loans to people who could not afford them.
The loss of jobs? Not so much. Keep in mind blacks are less than 13% of the total US population. Whites are 72%. It's fine if you want to say a higher percentage of blacks lost jobs than percentage of whites. But, if you do, you must also acknowledge a higher percentage of blacks are on Welfare and responsible for violent crime than percentage of whites. You can not use percentage of race for one thing and total raw numbers for others.

Yes, I can shed light on that. Whites are aware that Obama has failed to back his promises. They are aware that he is dividing this country. They are aware that he spending at a record pace. They are aware that regardless of what financial position they are presently in, it can only get worse.
Blacks on the other hand, want Obama to succeed so badly, they overlook the obvious signs.

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#1589 Aug 18, 2013
GrouchoMarxist wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously, because whites have more at stake than economically oppressed minorities do.

You're supposed to be "educated"?...lol... and you couldn't figure that out? You needed an ignorant crustacean to explain it to you?

What a dunce you are.
Lol, you are so intelligent that insults seem like the way to go, huh?

Since: Aug 13

Overland Park, KS

#1590 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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I have NEVER insinuated that only minorities use those programs! Please give a post number where I did!
You liberals can not debate without putting words in your opponent's mouth.
I want to end those programs because the simply enable those who would defraud the system. Regardless of race! People who utilize those programs live as well if not better than the average working person. Why would they be motivated to go work for the same or lesser lifestyle?
You do not know what you are talking about. The social safety net has a very low rate of fraud. Most of the people are elderly and disabled. If you did your research you would see that most live below the poverty level even with assistance. Stop buying the BS that Lush and Fox news are feeding you. Do some homework.

GrouchoMarxist

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#1591 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Lol, you are so intelligent that insults seem like the way to go, huh?
To avoid overkill, I match my ammunition to the caliber of my target:
Savant wrote:
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Wash the lice out of your body, stupid cracker. I've studies history. You haven't. Futhermore, you are not to post to me again. You are beneath me.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TTT3RV0FVPHHI...

Or is that "different", somehow,....based on skin color?

GrouchoMarxist

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#1592 Aug 18, 2013
No comment, Snyder?

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1593 Aug 18, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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Why do you have such a low opinion of Blacks?
I don't.

I have a low opinion of racists.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1594 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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DNA. I already answered that. In fact, I already answered this redundant post from you. You just can't deal with the answers because the do not coddle your agenda.
The fact that you think facts and statistics are racist and non-racist, depending on who publishes them demonstrates your mentality. Or, is it that a non-racist would choose different, non-offensive statistics to use?lol.
Statistics themselves can't be racist.

HOW statistics are gathered or categorized or separated CAN be racist.

HOW people attempt to interpret those statistics by claiming it indicates something wrong with "blacks or the black race or black culture" IS racist.

Dividing statistics by race when race is not a direct contributing factor promotes racism.

A non-racist would categorize the statistics on RELAVENT FACTORS like poverty or education level, not race.

Of course a racist like you can't understand any of that.....

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1595 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Prove race is not a causational factor!
So now you're back to claiming being black can cause you to be on welfare or a single mom or commit a violent crime.......

Thanks for proving your racism once again.

Btw, you don't prove a negative. Someone with a supposed medical background (or any intelligence whatsoever) should know that.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1596 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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What a surprise. Please show anywhere I avowed being a racist! You just use the race card when you are cornered. Which is frequently.
Nearly every post you make.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1597 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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I'm sure, when its convenient.
I notice rather than providing anything of substance to refute that the IQ test is the standard, you post deflective insults .
You should know by now, that's like waving a white flag and admitting you have nothing of substance to refute with.
You should know by now everything you post is wrong.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1598 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Lmao! You are sooooooo predictable! Here we are back at getting even for 200 years of...
You must have autopilot on your pc.
Nope, nothing about getting even.

Once again you're wrong.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1599 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Actually it was you who set the standard of "acceptable" proof. So who changed what?
You already admitted you were not going to post your personal information either. Or did your relief troll forget to mention that part when it was your turn again?
You were the one who said you won't post personal info, so I'm simply following your rule.

So where is the magic SAT or ACT scoring formula which has no personal data?

I'm still waiting to score my sample SAT test as a black man instead of a white man, so I need that formula.

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Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1600 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Post proof that a white felon is more likely to be hired than a black non-felon. Include proof that the non-felon black applied for the same job.
Sure, just as soon as you post proof that a lesser qualified minority got a spot over you.

Oh dear, there's that rule of yours again......

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1601 Aug 18, 2013
Savant wrote:
It is a curious thing that Blacks and Hispanics are MORE optimistic than whites about their economic future even though we are collectively WORSE off than whites. Unemployment is higher among us. We have less accumulated intergenerational wealth (thanks to slavery and Jim Crow), and we LOST a greater proportion of what wealth we had during the recession than did whites.
Does it really make sense for WHITES to be more pessimistic?
Because you have more room for improvement in income & educational areas, whereas more whites have already pretty much maxed out what they'll every be able to make.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1602 Aug 18, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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The slavery and Jim Crow issues have been hashed to death on here. But, please explain how blacks lost more of their wealth during the recession than did whites.
Because blacks lost their jobs at twice the rate of whites during the recession.

GrouchoMarxist

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#1603 Aug 18, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Because blacks lost their jobs at twice the rate of whites during the recession.
Now, are those the jobs they were supposedly "denied" by racist white employers?

Or is the spin making you a little dizzy?
America In Decline

Bromley, UK

#1604 Aug 18, 2013
This all makes perfect sense. America's Negros are happily optimistic that by continuing to vote for Democrats that the Democrats will continue to take from the Caucasians and give to Negros.

It all works great until the money runs out or until the givers take to the streets to reduce the number of takers. History is replete with such examples.

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