Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin

There are 2745 comments on the Log Cabin Democrat story from Aug 1, 2013, titled Optimism of whites in US lags blacks by big margin. In it, Log Cabin Democrat reports that:

Americans' attitudes about their economic future are sharply divided by race, with whites significantly less likely than blacks or Hispanics to think they can improve their own standard of living.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1419 Aug 16, 2013
KajetanStefanowicz wrote:
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Explain!?
How do Black or Hispanic prejudices some how equal Anti-Polish prejudices!?
What would happen if you told a Dumb Negro or Dumb Beaner joke on the air would that be taken seriously!!!???
So, why is it acceptable in the case of Polish!!????
It's NOT acceptable.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#1420 Aug 16, 2013
KajetanStefanowicz wrote:
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White Privilege!?
As a Polish American from an Italian American neighborhood I ask where is our White privilege.
Ask why my Italian friends have had Anti Italian slurs thrown in their face & the same for Polish for me.
Why this prejudice is neglected because we are "White"
Why the media pushes prejudices against Italians & Polish it wouldn't dare push against Blacks & Hispanics to the same degree.
What you wrote is just the beginning of the bigotry and prejudice. Stereotypes allowed in the media, movies, television, magazines, video games, and everything else under the sun also. No voices for certain groups. Progressives are bull crap artists as the agendas always end at a finite point and are always 100% for the groups they represent. Even if massively corrupted. Of course if we did what they do to their favorite groups, we would not be able to Hello to each other without a lawyer. The end result many people losing jobs for saying something insensitive or wearing something interpreted to be the same by the judges, juries and executioners known as progressives.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1422 Aug 16, 2013
KajetanStefanowicz wrote:
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White Privilege!?
As a Polish American from an Italian American neighborhood I ask where is our White privilege.
Ask why my Italian friends have had Anti Italian slurs thrown in their face & the same for Polish for me.
Why this prejudice is neglected because we are "White"
Why the media pushes prejudices against Italians & Polish it wouldn't dare push against Blacks & Hispanics to the same degree.
You brought up a very valid point. Polish and Bohemians got the worst of it.....and what about women drivers? Oh, the jokes that are endless about the female nag, driver, bimbo and so on.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1423 Aug 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I don't condone (nor do I really believe) you being a victim of the media pushing prejudice against Italians & Poles.
But if you think that's bad, then imagine being a black Italian, or a Hispanic Pole.
You STILL benefit from white privilege, just as I do even though I experience more discrimination for being gay & left handed.
I recognize it could be worse; I could be black & gay & left handed and experience even MORE discrimination from even MORE people.
OMFG! You can't be serious!!!! You're actually moaning about the 'discrimination' you face for being left handed? OMFG!!!!!!!!!!
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1424 Aug 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Ooooh, the poor white male!
Why is it we NEVER hear your type complaining about the 200+ years when the ONLY acceptable qualification for most jobs (except picking cotton) and any political office was white male?
Ooooh, boo hoo, the white male doesn't automatically go to the head of the line anymore. They might have to actually COMPETE for jobs & positions now with those (ugh) minorities & (ick) women & (ewww) the gays.
Ooooh, the poor white male!
Now I see what's wrong with you.....a whiny faaaaaaag. No wonder.
Liberals R Defective

Ashburn, VA

#1425 Aug 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Blacks are over represented in welfare programs because more of them are poor, despite a few lame programs which obviously have failed to make any significant difference.
Gee, you really can't understand how that works?
Only a moron would claim someone on welfare is living better than the average worker.
One trillion dollars have been spent on these "lame" programs. Is that the taxpayers fault? Or maybe a little personal responsibility enters into the equation?
Only a moron would think that a trillion dollars is small amount.

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#1426 Aug 16, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Now I see what's wrong with you.....a whiny faaaaaaag. No wonder.
You just proved his point with this comment. SMH Now his argument is rendered invalid because he's gay??? Of course it is to the white privileged of this country. One way or another, you're gonna suffer some sort of the discrimination from whites if you differ from them in any way. This poster has clearly experienced his fair share of discrimination for being gay, but you nor I will ever be able to comprehend that discrimination because we are not him. Just like you will never be able to understand the discrimination blacks have suffered, because you're not a member of the AA community. Then you would understand the need for affirmative action. Because people like you hate anything that's different from them, and seek to make those people's lives harder. So our govt. has to step in and regulate sht, because you bullies don't understand the meaning of fairness and equality, nor do you want to.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1427 Aug 16, 2013
ladondaruler1 wrote:
<quoted text> You just proved his point with this comment. SMH Now his argument is rendered invalid because he's gay??? Of course it is to the white privileged of this country. One way or another, you're gonna suffer some sort of the discrimination from whites if you differ from them in any way. This poster has clearly experienced his fair share of discrimination for being gay, but you nor I will ever be able to comprehend that discrimination because we are not him. Just like you will never be able to understand the discrimination blacks have suffered, because you're not a member of the AA community. Then you would understand the need for affirmative action. Because people like you hate anything that's different from them, and seek to make those people's lives harder. So our govt. has to step in and regulate sht, because you bullies don't understand the meaning of fairness and equality, nor do you want to.
I think gays are gross...so what? I have the right to become nauseated when I see them. Feces play is disgusting to me.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1428 Aug 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I don't condone (nor do I really believe) you being a victim of the media pushing prejudice against Italians & Poles.
But if you think that's bad, then imagine being a black Italian, or a Hispanic Pole.
You STILL benefit from white privilege, just as I do even though I experience more discrimination for being gay & left handed.
I recognize it could be worse; I could be black & gay & left handed and experience even MORE discrimination from even MORE people.
If you didn't hold your pinky finger so fking high up in the air, you might be able to maintain a better balance and use your right hand more.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1429 Aug 16, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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20+ years in Navy medicine, so YES, I'm a medical professional.
And I can spot an incompetent doctor who is more concerned with how much money they can get out of me with just a 5 minute interview.
You aren't actually stupid enough to assume your doctor is competent just because they have a degree and are white?
So you're a bedpan washer. Big deal. You are dumber than I thought.......you judge someone's skill in five minutes based on their skin color and how much they charge? What an idiot! Some of the most competent doctors rarely give themselves away on the cheap.

Finding a competent doctor is based on a number of qualities but race is not one of them. Where they got their degree may play a small part but their expertise, reputation, professional affilations, lectures, books they've written, classes they've taught, contributions they've made, skills they demonstrate, ability to communicate, a highly able diagnostician, among many many other things provide some insight to a doctor's competence. You are nothing but a bigot with an extreme chip on your shoulder who is so blinded by what real talent and qualification really is.

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#1430 Aug 16, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>I think gays are gross...so what? I have the right to become nauseated when I see them. Feces play is disgusting to me.
The act of homosexuality is indeed gross, but that doesn't mean that we should discriminate against them. I doubt anybody wakes up one day and decides to suck a dick, so there must be a logical explanation for the way that they are. But aside from all of that, discrimination is real and it is wrong. I will never discriminate against someone for something they cannot control, unless it is harmful to me or my love ones. But it is only right that our govt. right an evil wrong that they helped perpetuate. If you're gonna get mad at someone, then you should get mad at the govt. and the rich and middle class whites who benefited from these injustices. And if you try to claim there were no such injustices or that they shouldn't have affected blacks to the extent that it did, then you are simply a hateful and closed minded person whose heart is cold as ice. And there is no changing you or your beliefs.

Since: Dec 12

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#1432 Aug 17, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>It's a liberal's way to make up stuff and pretend you said it. They have no substance only ignorance, bigotry, hatred and a whole lot of hypocrisy.
Agreed.

Since: Dec 12

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#1433 Aug 17, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>He can't answer your sensible questions because he doesn't want to see the reality. They may accuse people of being racist when the real concern people have is why one race gets preferential treatment but also remains more so on the govt. dole in terms of percentages.
Precisely.

Since: Dec 12

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#1434 Aug 17, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Then how will we entertain ourselves without the useful fools on Topix when they are in the ground as a result of malpractice?
They are like roaches and wild hogs. They breed more to take their place.

Since: Dec 12

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#1435 Aug 17, 2013
Grumpy Guy wrote:
Here something people should know.
A large part of the economy, and rather it goes up or down is based on how people feel and if they are optimistic or pessimistic.
As long as we stay divided and the side that lose an election fell screwed over and are pessimistic about the future our economy is going to stay in poor shape.
Here is something else people should know. The economy never would have gotten so bad in the first place had the media not reported it to be way worse than it actually was. Media reported doom and gloom to get Obama elected, then couldn't report their way out of it after he was elected.

Since: Dec 12

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#1436 Aug 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, never said that either.

I simply reminded you that you have YET to provide ANY proof that a minority is LESS qualified than white people just because they're a minority.

Unlike racists such as yourself, I have no problem with my doctor or lawyer or builder being a minority.
I never said blacks are less qualified than whites just because they are a minority.
In fact, what I have said repeatedly, is that better qualified applicants get passed over by blacks due to Affirmative Action. I never mentioned the better qualified applicant was white. Those are your words, not mine.

Since: Dec 12

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#1437 Aug 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Blacks are over represented in welfare programs because more of them are poor, despite a few lame programs which obviously have failed to make any significant difference.

Gee, you really can't understand how that works?

Only a moron would claim someone on welfare is living better than the average worker.
Yes, we know you can talk in circles. It has become expected.
The question is, why in 2013 are more blacks considered poor? Why do they stay at that level? With all the opportunities special to their race, why do they choose to stay in "poverty"?

I suggest it's because "poverty" pays better with less effort than getting a job.

Since: Dec 12

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#1438 Aug 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Btw, we're STILL waiting for you to post that SAT & ACT grading formula which gives minorities higher scores for the same answers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/opinion/sun...

Since: Dec 12

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#1439 Aug 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, nothing at all about a separate scoring formula for minorities taking the ACT or SAT.

Try again......
Should have known you wouldn't read far enough into it, if at all, to see it.
There is something familiar about a conservative having to do the work for a liberal.
Here is the part that you will want to close your eyes and plug your ears for:

"A black student with an otherwise similar application to a white student receives the equivalent of a 310-point bump in SAT scores."

You were saying?

Since: Dec 12

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#1440 Aug 17, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Right, just like it was "common knowledge" that the sun revolved around the earth, and the earth was flat, and blacks were dumber than whites, and cigarettes were good for you, etc, etc.
Actually, on average, blacks have a much lower IQ than whites.
Oh no! Call me a racist because you don't like the FACT that I posted!

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