Biden asks clergy to make moral argum...

Biden asks clergy to make moral argument on guns

There are 6 comments on the Seattle Times story from May 6, 2013, titled Biden asks clergy to make moral argument on guns. In it, Seattle Times reports that:

Vice President Joe Biden wants pastors, rabbis and nuns to tell their flocks that enacting gun control is the moral thing to do.

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Tampa, FL

#1 May 6, 2013
Biden: "Alright, listen up you God-#%€!{<¥ clergy! Me and what's-his-name need your f&$@ing help, okay! I'm not just p?&$ing in the wind here you €<%#*ers, I am +*%#ing serious this God-%#¥£!ed time! You better get up off your a<€€*s and help us or it's your €^+=ing A><es, do you understand? Thankyou for your >€%#ed support you @&$"ing b£<>*ers! Now let's GO!!- Joe "Plugs" Biden\ VP


“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#2 May 6, 2013
"Here, then, every man,--whether native or naturalized, whether free or bond--for the provision comprehended every class and colour--every man capable of shouldering a musket, was required to be trained and armed, by our present Constitution; and the proposed to it, designates the militia as only to be for defence, and in this view Blackstone himself regarded the militia. The very second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, previous to which several of the States had refused to come into the compact, he begged to recommend to the attention of his friend from Allegheny,(Mr. Forward)--"a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Mark the admirable adaption of the language. There is said (Mr. I) an argument in it more than I could make in a year, all condensed. A regulated right of every man, to do what? To hear arms--and the Constitution says this right to bear arms "shall not be infringed." This "well regulated militia," which is "necessary to the security of a free State" is the right of every man to bear arms, and it is a right which "shall not be infringed." And when his friend from Allegheny said at first,(as he had understood him,) that the federal power absorbed all the rights of the states on this subject, he (.Mr I) confessed that he had felt himself excited almost to pugnacity. This right exceeded, was beyond the reach of the federal Constitution--it was supreme, above the supremacy of the Constitution--it was a right which the Constitution could not touch. It was nothing less than man's right to self defence, that power which could not be impaired by any power of government."

- Mr. Charles Jared Ingersoll, Oct. 24, 1837, PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE CONVENTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION, COMMENCED AT HARRISBURG MAY 2 1837 VOL. IV. Reported by JOHN AGG, Stenographer: Assisted By Messrs. Wheeler, Kingman, Draks, and McKinley. HARRISBURG: PRINTED BY PACKER, BARRETT, And PARKE. 1838.(Ingersoll served twice as a United States representative, first from 1813 to 1815 and again from 1841 to 1847. In between these terms, he worked as the United States attorney for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania from 1815 to 1829 by appointment from President James Madison, was Pennsylvania state representative in 1830, and in 1837, was a delegate to the Pennsylvania state constitutional convention. Over the course of his governmental career, Ingersoll worked with a few U. S. presidents such as James Monroe, John Tyler, and James K. Polk).


“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#3 May 6, 2013
Luke 11:21

“When a strong man armed, keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace”

Luke 22:36

Then said he unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one".

- Jesus, whom is the Christ - The Lord

Luke 12:39

"And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through".

Acts 5:29

Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Acts 5:39

But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.

Joel 3:9-10

Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:

Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I [am] strong.

The following quote deals with what we, as American Citizens, are facing today and which we must NEVER allow to happen;

1 Samuel 13:19

Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make [them] swords or spears:

And this is the reason WHY we must never allow the disarming of American Citizens;

1 Samuel 13:22

So it came to pass in the day of battle, that there was neither sword nor spear found in the hand of any of the people that [were] with Saul and Jonathan: but with Saul and with Jonathan his son was there found.

"A View of that great and flourishing City of BOSTON, when in its purity, and out of the Hands of the Philistines."

- A Declaration Setting forth the Causes and Necessity Of their taking up Arms, July 6th, 1775.


“Shall NOT be infringed!”

Since: Apr 13

San Jose, CA.

#4 May 6, 2013
And, a word of WARNING from THE MAN, to the USURPERS;

Isaiah 10:1-4

Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness [which] they have prescribed;

To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and [that] they may rob the fatherless!

And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation [which] shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory?

Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand [is] stretched out still.

(You blind leaders of the blind! Do you think that you shall escape HIS WRATH?)

Genesis 9:5, 6

And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

Genesis 14:14

And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained [servants], born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued [them] unto Dan.

Genesis 48:22

Moreover I have given to thee one portion above thy brethren, which I took out of the hand of the Amorite with my sword and with my bow.

Exodus 15:3

The LORD [is] a man of war: the LORD [is] his name.

Exodus 22:1-3

If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.

Exodus 32:27

And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side...
Mark Winshel

Berkeley, CA

#5 May 7, 2013
It looks like Biden might have has put his foot in his mouth again.

Since if he wants, AND ESPECIALLY IF HE SUCCEEDS, in getting the clergy to get much more actively involved in mixing politics with moral issues, and in also urging their flocks to more strongly take stands on political issues based on what their clergyman tells them is the proper course of action, I strongly suspect that the end result will be the clergy of the Catholic Church pushing much harder to get their members to fight abortion.

In other words Biden should be extremely careful in what he asks for, since he might get it.

But then of course if the clergy of the Catholic Church did get much more strongly involved in pushing their members to fight hard against abortion, I am sure that Biden and the other members of the Demagogue, Hypocrite, and Fad of the Month Party, er, excuse me, I mean the Democratic Party, would then start yelling and screaming about how it should be illegal to mix politics and religion.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#6 May 7, 2013
Joe funny man.

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