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Trump Adds to Rollback of Obama Legacy With Anti-Gay Measures

There are 105 comments on the News Max story from Sep 12, 2017, titled Trump Adds to Rollback of Obama Legacy With Anti-Gay Measures. In it, News Max reports that:

Early on, lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people seemed to be exempted from Donald Trump's most inflammatory rhetoric. He was the first Republican presidential nominee to mention LGBT people in his acceptance speech.

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Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#1 Sep 12, 2017
Making America Great Again? LOL!
Irwin

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Sep 12, 2017
In case I didn't mention it...

THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT!!!

WOO HOO!!!

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irwin

Santa Cruz, CA

#4 Sep 12, 2017
I am proud to be an American again!

Thank you President Trump!

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YouDidntBuildTha t

Rohnert Park, CA

#5 Sep 12, 2017
This article claims that public opinion on allowing same sex marriage has shifted to acceptance, but this is still not true - it doesn't matter how many times the liberal media try to tell the American people what they think, the fact is, Americans overwhelming oppose changing the definition of marriage.

46 out of 50 states have repeatedly voted against allowing same sex couples to marry. Only one state voted in favor of same sex marriage, and the remaining 3 states never held a vote. In every case but one, the vote was overturned by progressive globalist activist judges - In a direct violation of the US Constitution.

Marriage is a union between one man and one woman - This has been the definition of marriage since before the dawn of human civilization.

Nobody is denying the rights of homosexuals to marry. A gay man is free to marry a woman and likewise, a lesbian is free to marry a man. It is not society's fault that marriage is a union between a man and a woman....

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Irwin

Santa Cruz, CA

#6 Sep 12, 2017
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
This article claims that public opinion on allowing same sex marriage has shifted to acceptance, but this is still not true - it doesn't matter how many times the liberal media try to tell the American people what they think, the fact is, Americans overwhelming oppose changing the definition of marriage.

46 out of 50 states have repeatedly voted against allowing same sex couples to marry. Only one state voted in favor of same sex marriage, and the remaining 3 states never held a vote. In every case but one, the vote was overturned by progressive globalist activist judges - In a direct violation of the US Constitution.

Marriage is a union between one man and one woman - This has been the definition of marriage since before the dawn of human civilization.

Nobody is denying the rights of homosexuals to marry. A gay man is free to marry a woman and likewise, a lesbian is free to marry a man. It is not society's fault that marriage is a union between a man and a woman....
Great post! Very well said and 100% spot on!

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YouDidntBuildTha t

Rohnert Park, CA

#7 Sep 12, 2017
Irwin wrote:
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Great post! Very well said and 100% spot on!
Thank you. Yes, the facts do not agree with the progressive America-hater's narrative.

President Trump is doing the right thing here - it's not about being "Anti-Gay." The progressive media's endless rhetoric and outright lies and fake news is only serving to harm themselves as well as the Democrat party.

I believe that America's right to a strong and effective military outweighs the right of a transsexual to join the US Military.

This is common sense stuff. And I think the progressive leftists are well aware of the logic of President Trump's actions. But the progressives actually want a weakened military!

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Christsharian ColesLaw

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Sep 12, 2017
YouDidntBuildTha t wrote:
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This article claims that public opinion on allowing same sex marriage has shifted to acceptance, but this is still not true - it doesn't matter how many times the liberal media try to tell the American people what they think, the fact is, Americans overwhelming oppose changing the definition of marriage.

46 out of 50 states have repeatedly voted against allowing
Don't be silly with your (incorrect) stuff about those votes - you don't just live fifteen years in the past when your information about marriage equality dates from, you live at least half a century in the past, like, pre Civil Rights Act of 1964. That's your mentality.

If you don't like the clear trend towards marriage equality over two decades shown by the Gallup organization's polling then you can show some better polling on the matter over those two decades....

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YouDidntBuildTha t

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#9 Sep 12, 2017
Christsharian ColesLaw wrote:
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If you don't like the clear trend towards marriage equality over two decades shown by the Gallup organization's polling then you can show some better polling on the matter over those two decades....
There is no clear trend towards changing the definition of marriage. It's not an issue of marriage equality - Homosexuals are free to marry members of the opposite sex - just like everyone else. No, it's an issue of changing the definition of the meaning of the word, "marriage."

And it has only been over the last several years, that the overwhelming majority of American voters' will were overturned by activist progressive globalist judges - again, in a direct violation of the US Constitution.

Gallop can try to tell us (the American people) what we think about same sex marriage (just like they tried to tell us we were going to vote for Hillary), but the only results that count are at the voting booth - And Americans almost (nearly all of the voters) voted again and again and again in opposition to same sex marriage.

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“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

in a galaxy far, far away....

#10 Sep 12, 2017
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
This article claims that public opinion on allowing same sex marriage has shifted to acceptance, but this is still not true - it doesn't matter how many times the liberal media try to tell the American people what they think, the fact is, Americans overwhelming oppose changing the definition of marriage.
Anyone can oppose anything they like. But they can't have it if it's unconstitutional.
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
46 out of 50 states have repeatedly voted against allowing same sex couples to marry. Only one state voted in favor of same sex marriage, and the remaining 3 states never held a vote. In every case but one, the vote was overturned by progressive globalist activist judges - In a direct violation of the US Constitution.
Three states actually voted in favor of same sex marriage. Maine, Maryland, and my home state of Washington. You're not entirely accurate here.
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
Marriage is a union between one man and one woman - This has been the definition of marriage since before the dawn of human civilization.
No it hasn't. There have been many societies (since AFTER the dawn of human civilization) that have practiced polygamy. Some still exist.
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
Nobody is denying the rights of homosexuals to marry. A gay man is free to marry a woman and likewise, a lesbian is free to marry a man. It is not society's fault that marriage is a union between a man and a woman....
This isn't even accurate now, and hasn't been for a couple years. A gay man is free to marry a man now, and a lesbian is free to marry a man. Keep up!

You act like it's all so INNOCENT that same-sex marriages have been banned in the past. "It is not society's fault!" As if society cannot change anything about itself. Well, it can, and it has.

And don't act as if marriage is the ONLY right which has been denied to homosexuals. We've been cast out of the military, our sex lives themselves were once criminalized, there have been pushes to prevent us from being school teachers, or from adopting children, and in many states LGBT people can still be fired or evicted simply for being gay. This is all part of an ongoing pattern, a campaign against everything and anything that gay people ask for. This isn't simply society looking at a dictionary and saying, "See, it says one man and one woman, we can't do anything about that!" It's a concerted effort to make the LGBT community into social pariahs.

And it's just ending, that's all. Don't act like it's the end of the world.

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Christsharian ColesLaw

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#11 Sep 12, 2017
YouDidntBuildTha t wrote:
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There is no clear trend towards changing the definition of marriage.
Back up your bigoted, wishful thinking claim with some data, white spuremacist [sic].

Even if Gallup polling were wrong in many instances when it shows a clear trend over two decades or so that means something. Your psychosexually depraved hatred of lgbt persons is not data or evidence, btw, you cretin. You don't like Gallup then present some polling you do endorse.

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Philadelphia, PA

#12 Sep 12, 2017
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
This article claims that public opinion on allowing same sex marriage has shifted to acceptance, but this is still not true - it doesn't matter how many times the liberal media try to tell the American people what they think, the fact is, Americans overwhelming oppose changing the definition of marriage.

46 out of 50 states have repeatedly voted against allowing same sex couples to marry. Only one state voted in favor of same sex marriage, and the remaining 3 states never held a vote. In every case but one, the vote was overturned by progressive globalist activist judges - In a direct violation of the US Constitution.

Marriage is a union between one man and one woman - This has been the definition of marriage since before the dawn of human civilization.

Nobody is denying the rights of homosexuals to marry. A gay man is free to marry a woman and likewise, a lesbian is free to marry a man. It is not society's fault that marriage is a union between a man and a woman....
What's the definition of Marriage?

And when was it changed, could you tell us from what the definition was charged from?

Where's marriage defined in the United States Constitution?

Do you accept the US Constitution gurantee of Equal Justice and all men being created equal?

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Bladensburg, MD

#13 Sep 12, 2017
Gremlin wrote:
Making America Great Again? LOL!
By persecuting Americans for their individual pursuit of happiness and sexual preferences?

Nothing could be further from the guaranteed rights of the United States Constitution.

That's subversive. The supreme court's made that perfectly clear.
YouDidntBuildTha t

Rohnert Park, CA

#14 Sep 12, 2017
Retribution wrote:
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By persecuting Americans for their individual pursuit of happiness and sexual preferences?

Nothing could be further from the guaranteed rights of the United States Constitution.

That's subversive. The supreme court's made that perfectly clear.
There's only one Supreme Court.

And nonsense...Nobody has been persecuted by the definition of marriage. By this asinine reasoning, the rule of law would fly apart like tissue paper in hurricane force winds.

The definition of marriage will be restored - A union between one man, and one woman.

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Irwin

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#15 Sep 12, 2017
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
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The definition of marriage will be restored - A union between one man, and one woman.
Now that would truly make America great again!

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“Equality marches on! ”

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#17 Sep 12, 2017
Irwin wrote:
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Now that would truly make America great again!
Explain how marriage between any sex would remotely affect an old, sexless, name/location morphing troll such as yourself! You are posting to try and make yourself feel apart of something. No one, gay or straight, single or married wants anything to do with you. Not now, not years ago, and as for the limited time you have left, NEVER! Spin that truth, douche bag!

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YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
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There's only one Supreme Court.

And nonsense...Nobody has been persecuted by the definition of marriage. By this asinine reasoning, the rule of law would fly apart like tissue paper in hurricane force winds.

The definition of marriage will be restored - A union between one man, and one woman.
You're mistakeningly intersecting your religious superstitions with the tenants of the founding laws of the United States in our Constitution

In America it's the Constitution we live by not any religious fables or books build on fantasies.

All men are created equal is the fundamental principle of the citizens of the United States

Your union one man, one woman speel doesn't come from the US Construction and doesn't govern the citizens of these United States of America

If you dont respect freedom and the individual liberty that's guaranteed to Americans it might be time for you to relocate rather than try and force your religious ideology on a free society.

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YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
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There's only one Supreme Court.

And nonsense...Nobody has been persecuted by the definition of marriage. By this asinine reasoning, the rule of law would fly apart like tissue paper in hurricane force winds.

The definition of marriage will be restored - A union between one man, and one woman.
You've confused the United States with some crackpot Christian caillphate.

The definition of Marriage has not been changed. The supreme court simply upheld the guarantee in the constitution, all men are equal under our supreme law. Because your religious ideology doesn't accept same sex marriage isn't relevant in the public square.

That's reason why America has no recognized religion. Religion and free societies are incompatible. You can't be true to your religion and the laws of the United States Constitution

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#21 Sep 12, 2017
Irwin wrote:
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Now that would truly make America great again!
No, that would make America very much like ISIS an extremist Christian Caillphate

That would require another bloody crusade

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“A long time ago”

Since: Nov 09

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#23 Sep 13, 2017
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
Nobody has been persecuted by the definition of marriage.
Edith Windsor married Thea Spyer in 2007 in Canada, a marriage which would have otherwise been recognized in the US, after a 40 year partnership. When Spyer died in 2009, Windsor was expected to pay an inheritance tax in excess of $360,000, something any other spouse would not be expected to pay. If you were hit with a financial penalty like that, which other couples were allowed to ignore, I bet you would feel persecuted.
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
By this asinine reasoning, the rule of law would fly apart like tissue paper in hurricane force winds.
The rule of law is exactly what has made all this possible. Edith Windsor, and later James Obergefell and others, took their complaints to the Supreme Court, and challenged the constitutionality of the bans which limited their freedoms. The Court agreed with them, and the bans were found to be unconstitutional. This was all done according to the rule of law.
YouDidntBuildThat wrote:
The definition of marriage will be restored - A union between one man, and one woman.
Well, best of luck with that. While enforcing compliance has encountered a few tiny problems here and there, no one is mounting any kind of legal challenge or attempt at reversal in any significant way. This reality is here to stay. It only brings us more in line with other first world nations that have done the same thing. The Supreme Court even re-affirmed it's previous decisions with another case earlier this year. Don't expect same-sex marriages to go away. Interracial marriages haven't gone anywhere in the 50 years since Loving vs Virginia, and it has opponents who are as fervent as you are.
Cordwainer Trout

Raywick, KY

#24 Sep 13, 2017
Time after time, it has happened that gay couples have gotten children one way, or another, and used them solely for their perverse sexual gratifications and profit. Homosexuals were rightly considered criminal in the past in America and currently in most countries around the globe. Even after stupid and deviant courts have granted homosexuals expanded "rights", they continue to be statistically anomalous in their illegal behaviors. If any of their self-claimed "rights" are being abridged, it in not because of their pursuit of happiness, but because of their unnatural affections and their undeniable threat to a civilized world.

Especially the "Human Rights Campaign" is at the center of international efforts of imposing homosexuality on children. Marriage and other elements of their insistence are actually secondary to their intent to completely obliterate Western Christian values, morals and even Art; then supplant them with pagan sexual access to children. First, they insisted on tolerance. Then, they insisted on unqualified acceptance. Then, they insisted upon overtaking language and education, even comparing themselves to racial differences. Then, they insisted on promotion. Now, they want to criminalize and punish anyone holding to Western civilized values and morality. None of their claims, none of their valueless destruction and domination has any validity whatsoever. It has been thousands of years since humankind has witnessed nations completely destroyed by such pagan and immoral depravity. It will cast the world into another dark age if humanity doesn't treat their threat as the terrorist reality it has periodically shown.

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