Republican senator urges US attorney general nominee to answer torture question

Oct 28, 2007 Full story: www.iht.com 44

International Herald Tribune A Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee said Sunday he might consider opposing Michael Mukasey's nomination for U.S. attorney general if the former judge says waterboarding is not torture.

Sen. Lindsey Graham joined two top Senate Democrats in urging Mukasey to disclose his views. Mukasey so far has refused to say explicitly what his position is on the lawfulness of the interrogation technique, which simulates drowning.

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Since: Jul 07

United States

#1 Oct 29, 2007
if it's not torture let's make it legal to use on U.S. citizens in criminal investigations here at home or shit can this idiot.
Donnie

Shippingport, PA

#2 Oct 29, 2007
wyojake wrote:
if it's not torture let's make it legal to use on U.S. citizens in criminal investigations here at home or shit can this idiot.
There isn't just one idiot there are at least three, so far, in the US Senate.
Lance Winslow

United States

#3 Oct 29, 2007
A single experience would convince Mukasey.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#4 Oct 29, 2007
Lance Winslow wrote:
A single experience would convince Mukasey.
An interesing concept:

"Is it torture yet, Judge?"

"How do you like it?"

"Singing in the rain,
I'm singing in the rain..."

“the dude abides”

Since: Aug 07

surrounded by PC Liberals

#5 Oct 29, 2007
MORE CRAP!! Waterboarding is not torture. It's a necessary method of interrogation in today's day and age. I say we need more!

Since: Jul 07

United States

#6 Oct 29, 2007
Semper Fi Republican wrote:
MORE CRAP!! Waterboarding is not torture. It's a necessary method of interrogation in today's day and age. I say we need more!
Think I would rather have a breathalizer than a breath denier. Bet you would be pleading guilty to any hit and run that happened in the city with your make and model. And be the first one to yell "my constitutional rights!" when they tried it on you.

Since: Jul 07

United States

#7 Oct 29, 2007
Lance Winslow wrote:
A single experience would convince Mukasey.
great idea! let's use it for any and all confirmation hearings for a federal office. Lets ask Cheney and Bush some questions also - off the record and without swearing an oath.
true blue

Peoria, AZ

#8 Oct 29, 2007
Semper Fi Republican wrote:
MORE CRAP!! Waterboarding is not torture. It's a necessary method of interrogation in today's day and age. I say we need more!
why don't we pull out their fingernails too!!!!

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#9 Oct 29, 2007
Seig Heil!

It IS torture, and the last thing we need to do is make this country more like the middle east.
Semper Fi Republican wrote:
MORE CRAP!! Waterboarding is not torture. It's a necessary method of interrogation in today's day and age. I say we need more!
Lance Winslow

San Francisco, CA

#10 Oct 29, 2007
Semper Fi Republican wrote:
MORE CRAP!! Waterboarding is not torture. It's a necessary method of interrogation in today's day and age. I say we need more!
Got a problem with the Constitution, dude?
You betcha

United States

#11 Oct 29, 2007
wyojake wrote:
if it's not torture let's make it legal to use on U.S. citizens in criminal investigations here at home...
Since the far majority of lawbreakers are liberals, sure - let's do it. Then we can get back to a serious, no delay, death penalty, too!

Since: Feb 07

Whitman,Ma

#12 Oct 29, 2007
Do these MOONBAT SENATORS think this is going to stop our enemies from torturing our people? They are laughing at these idiots in Washington.

“Yabetcha”

Since: Mar 07

Delta

#13 Oct 30, 2007
Semper Fi Republican wrote:
MORE CRAP!! Waterboarding is not torture. It's a necessary method of interrogation in today's day and age. I say we need more!
I spose you spent time in the hands of the Muslims? "Waterboarding" was done with sand. I spose your big hard jarhead ass could deal with that? You ever been tortured?
I spose 24 years in the Airborne made me hard. I just as soon shoot a muzzy as torture him. Having been tortured and watching my men lose their heads might have twisted me some. I figure the best thing to do is kill em. Once their dead they don't need fed.

Question comes to mind on this. How American is torture? My Dad was in WWII. He spent some time in a Jap pen, never spoke a word about it. We knew he was messed up by the way he acted around Japanese Americans. No trust. I know the feeling. I don't trust Muslims.

Still, the question comes to mind. We Americans were raised different than those folks in the mid east. We like to think we're a cut above. But are we? I swallowed sand and blood. I saw shit that just ain't right. So we dunk a few muzzies! No loss! When do we start burning them or hacking of feet? hands? heads? and other body parts? One does lead to the other. How far are we willing to take this?

Best thing to do is make them see we aren't monsters. Let them learn that we respect their lives as much as we do our own. We are Americans not quite the same as them... Yet.

Since: Jul 07

United States

#14 Oct 30, 2007
You betcha wrote:
<quoted text>
Since the far majority of lawbreakers are liberals, sure - let's do it. Then we can get back to a serious, no delay, death penalty, too!
Depends whether you are talking white collar or blue collar crime. Facts figures? It's different for a man to steal a donut and face life for three strikes and Cheney's conflicts of interest all these years. Ya think? Maybe you should head to Red China - they think alot like you or is it you like them?

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#15 Oct 30, 2007
Froggy_McGurk wrote:
<quoted text>
I spose you spent time in the hands of the Muslims? "Waterboarding" was done with sand. I spose your big hard jarhead ass could deal with that? You ever been tortured?
I spose 24 years in the Airborne made me hard. I just as soon shoot a muzzy as torture him. Having been tortured and watching my men lose their heads might have twisted me some. I figure the best thing to do is kill em. Once their dead they don't need fed.
Question comes to mind on this. How American is torture? My Dad was in WWII. He spent some time in a Jap pen, never spoke a word about it. We knew he was messed up by the way he acted around Japanese Americans. No trust. I know the feeling. I don't trust Muslims.
Still, the question comes to mind. We Americans were raised different than those folks in the mid east. We like to think we're a cut above. But are we? I swallowed sand and blood. I saw shit that just ain't right. So we dunk a few muzzies! No loss! When do we start burning them or hacking of feet? hands? heads? and other body parts? One does lead to the other. How far are we willing to take this?
Best thing to do is make them see we aren't monsters. Let them learn that we respect their lives as much as we do our own. We are Americans not quite the same as them... Yet.
Yea, you are a real American. You understand our values of freedom, not like so many wackos here.

Torture is more than un-American; it is anti-American.

My nephew is in the 101 Airborn right now. He is 24. I hope that he will become as wise and as patriotic as you.

Thank you, and Happy Hallow'een.
Donnie

Shippingport, PA

#16 Oct 30, 2007
Froggy_McGurk wrote:
<quoted text>
ISo we dunk a few muzzies! No loss! When do we start burning them or hacking of feet? hands? heads? and other body parts? One does lead to the other.
Actually we are moving in the opposite direction. Defining non-torture as torture will only lead to the next most unpleasant method as torture. Pretty soon, saying, "Have a nice day" will be considered torture.
Donnie

Shippingport, PA

#17 Oct 30, 2007
wyojake wrote:
<quoted text>
It's different for a man to steal a donut and face life for three strikes and Cheney's conflicts of interest all these years.
Stealing a donut would not qualify as a strike. But I know you wouldn't want to let the facts get in the way of a good lie.

Since: Jul 07

United States

#18 Oct 30, 2007
Donnie wrote:
<quoted text>Stealing a donut would not qualify as a strike. But I know you wouldn't want to let the facts get in the way of a good lie.
Wouldn't want your lie to get in the way of facts. Reading is fundamental - so is good sense - please try both, they are good for your delusions of grandeur.

Scott A. Masters, 41, is accused of shoplifting a single donut worth 52 cent in a strong-arm robbery. For that, he could get a sentence of 30 years to life!

Ö one manís sweet tooth got the better of him. He stole a doughnut. A single doughnut.

Authorities called it strong-arm robbery. The "doughnut man," as the suspect is now known, faces five to 15 years in prison for his crime. And Farmington, a town of 14,000 people about 70 miles south of St. Louis, has been buzzing about it ever since.

"That someone would take just a single doughnut, not something very expensive or extravagant, thatís unique," supermarket assistant manager Gary Komar said, smiling.

Scott A. Masters, 41, is accused of shoplifting the pastry and pushing a store worker who tried to stop him. The worker was unhurt. But with that shove, his shoplifting turned into a strong-arm robbery. Masters, who appeared in court Friday, is stunned. The prosecutor shows no signs of backing down. In fact, because Masters has a prior record, he could get a sentence of 30 years to life.

“the dude abides”

Since: Aug 07

surrounded by PC Liberals

#19 Oct 30, 2007
Froggy_McGurk wrote:
<quoted text>
I spose you spent time in the hands of the Muslims? "Waterboarding" was done with sand. I spose your big hard jarhead ass could deal with that? You ever been tortured?
I spose 24 years in the Airborne made me hard. I just as soon shoot a muzzy as torture him. Having been tortured and watching my men lose their heads might have twisted me some. I figure the best thing to do is kill em. Once their dead they don't need fed.
Question comes to mind on this. How American is torture? My Dad was in WWII. He spent some time in a Jap pen, never spoke a word about it. We knew he was messed up by the way he acted around Japanese Americans. No trust. I know the feeling. I don't trust Muslims.
Still, the question comes to mind. We Americans were raised different than those folks in the mid east. We like to think we're a cut above. But are we? I swallowed sand and blood. I saw shit that just ain't right. So we dunk a few muzzies! No loss! When do we start burning them or hacking of feet? hands? heads? and other body parts? One does lead to the other. How far are we willing to take this?
Best thing to do is make them see we aren't monsters. Let them learn that we respect their lives as much as we do our own. We are Americans not quite the same as them... Yet.
Nope, never spent quality time with the Muj. Just shot them. But I've seen what they've done, to Americans and civilians. And the 48 Marines we lost in 7 months.
I'm saying that we need to do whatever we need to do to win the war on terror. If pouring water on their heads gets the job done, so be it. There's no room for second place in this war.

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#20 Oct 30, 2007
Making th3e other poster correct. His third strike was not stealing the doughnut per se, but using violence to do so.
wyojake wrote:
<quoted text>
Wouldn't want your lie to get in the way of facts. Reading is fundamental - so is good sense - please try both, they are good for your delusions of grandeur.
Scott A. Masters, 41, is accused of shoplifting a single donut worth 52 cent in a strong-arm robbery. For that, he could get a sentence of 30 years to life!
Ö one manís sweet tooth got the better of him. He stole a doughnut. A single doughnut.
Authorities called it strong-arm robbery. The "doughnut man," as the suspect is now known, faces five to 15 years in prison for his crime. And Farmington, a town of 14,000 people about 70 miles south of St. Louis, has been buzzing about it ever since.
"That someone would take just a single doughnut, not something very expensive or extravagant, thatís unique," supermarket assistant manager Gary Komar said, smiling.
Scott A. Masters, 41, is accused of shoplifting the pastry and pushing a store worker who tried to stop him. The worker was unhurt. But with that shove, his shoplifting turned into a strong-arm robbery. Masters, who appeared in court Friday, is stunned. The prosecutor shows no signs of backing down. In fact, because Masters has a prior record, he could get a sentence of 30 years to life.

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