It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103340 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Marauder

Valdez, AK

#103717 Apr 8, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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Hey, you don't seem to keep your word...didn't you say back when god was a boy that you weren't wasting anymore time on talking to me....and here you are...seems your word is full of shit....
Nah...I'll never pass up a good opportunity to show you the "idiot" that you are...like making the world safe by getting rid of men...lol...go for it.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103718 Apr 8, 2013
crawlfish wrote:
<quoted text>I have guns, several in matter of fact, and proud of it. You think I'am a coward? You think I wont protect my child or anyother that I see in danger. Then bring your liberal aussie ass over here and try to hurt my kid or any other near me. I'll blow what lil brains you got left in that head out. Nobody better ever lay a hand on my kid, or any kid near me, or they will get a one way ticket to hell. No brag, just fact!
It's the cowards like you that want to disarm people so that the bad guys will be the only ones with guns.
You are one hell of a stupid woman, in matter of fact, you're the STUPIDEST person I have ever seen on topix. You make Beady look like a university scholar.
No, I think you are a stupid coward, and America is rife with them.
You have been tossing with gun violence since the Brits left, and it is killing your population....one by one or 20 at a time and your answer.....more guns and more violence...oh...who's the smart wittle fella then....your moronic tit.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103719 Apr 8, 2013
Marauder wrote:
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"...and then the rest of us can get on with making our world safe for kids and females alike...or get rid of men....that is still the best option..."
Ok...why don't you get right on that...lol.
OK.
Sir Bucking Fastard

UK

#103720 Apr 8, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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That's a MOST illogical assertion!
If YOU are charged with protecting one or more young ones, to what will you resort which they are suddenly placed in harm's way?
A: Well does the attacker have a gun?
Well, since YOU don't believe in guns, with what other device will you respond when threatened?
A: One a gunman enters a classroom, your first job is to protect the children....if the teacher has a gun on their person the gunman would shoot them first, there in lies the point doesn't it, when a person enters a class with a gun......there is nothing the teacher can do....even if she had a gun.
Thus we see that YOU reveal YOURSELF to be a COWARD of the worst sort, for YOU refuse to employ the very best defense against an attack: The gun.
A: No guns available to idiots, the threat is then minimalised.
Spoken like the TRUE COWARD that YOU ARE!

If a teacher has a gun, and a gunman KNOWS? What are the chances that he will ever choose HER classroom?

Violent criminals are COWARDS, and they AVOID interacting with anyone they KNOW is going to be armed, and able to respond to their attack.

But, even IF he decides to attack, the odds are 50:50 that HE will be shot dead even as he shoots at the teacher.

Being shot does NOT result in 'immediate' death, as you presumably believe.

Therefore, the teacher will have fulfilled his/her roll of protector of the children. But YOU WILL NOT HAVE THAT NOW, WILL YOU?

No, because it is YOURSELF who is THE COWARD, you downright dirty, rotten, mean, nasty, and totally invidious QUEEN OF STINK!
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Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103725 Apr 8, 2013
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah...I'll never pass up a good opportunity to show you the "idiot" that you are...like making the world safe by getting rid of men...lol...go for it.
Ha! You have a penis(tiny)....so you wouldn't have the nouse or capacity to down any female let alone this one.... but I love the way you yanks live with your delusions of granduer...boyo...

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103726 Apr 8, 2013
Sir Bucking Fastard wrote:
<quoted text>
Spoken like the TRUE COWARD that YOU ARE!
A: You seem to toss that word around like it frightens you, why is that, did someone call you that and now the word has stuck in your hick country town?
If a teacher has a gun, and a gunman KNOWS? What are the chances that he will ever choose HER classroom?
A: You are silly, if a teacher has a gun and he started shooting then she could injure him better to get that out of the way first...you are dumb....you couldn't even cut it as a person intent on harm, so how in the hell can you possibly think you would know how to defeat one.
Violent criminals are COWARDS, and they AVOID interacting with anyone they KNOW is going to be armed, and able to respond to their attack.
A: Yeah you keep telling yourself that Pacha! LOL.....I am sure there are violent criminals in prisons and on the street that are really very scared when they don't have a gun....ROTFLMFAO ....you are so feckin' naive.
But, even IF he decides to attack, the odds are 50:50 that HE will be shot dead even as he shoots at the teacher.
A: by who, the teacher? He enters the room where is here gun on her person...in a holster she's dead, in a locked cupboard she's dead, in a drawer she's dead...I don't know how long you think it takes to fire a gun but I am damn sure the teacher would not react before she was shot.....and he would then proceed to shoot the kids....
Being shot does NOT result in 'immediate' death, as you presumably believe.
A: Actually if you use the right weapon and are an excellent shot it does, so what you are saying is that most of you don't?
Therefore, the teacher will have fulfilled his/her roll of protector of the children. But YOU WILL NOT HAVE THAT NOW, WILL YOU?
A: I would easily bet that I would have exactly the same chance that she would..
No, because it is YOURSELF who is THE COWARD, you downright dirty, rotten, mean, nasty, and totally invidious QUEEN OF STINK!
A: Oh baby can't you win your point and being a man, can't understand the world no....BTW tell your mum I think she is low scum, for raising a child with such disrespect to woman....now crawl back into her bedroom and suckle, you baby....
Sir Bucking Fastard

UK

#103727 Apr 8, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Ha! You have a penis(tiny)....so you wouldn't have the nouse or capacity to down any female let alone this one.... but I love the way you yanks live with your delusions of granduer...boyo...
If ANYONE is living with 'delusions of grandeur,' it would be YOURSELF, inasmuch as it is YOURSELF whom has stated that YOU want to WIPEOUT ALL OF HUMANITY in order to achieve your own ends.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#103728 Apr 8, 2013
Marauder wrote:
<quoted text>
"...unless we start tracking each and ever one of these weapons on a federal level criminals will go on using them unimpeded and unhindered."
ROTFLMAO...so you're going to have armed criminals come to the police station and register their guns...right along with the law abiding after you pass that law...right...?
"Meanwhile it would have zero effect on the “law abiding” gun owner or enthusiast – what are you afraid of anyway?"
LOL..."Zero effect" on the “law abiding” gun owner or enthusiast...hpow is that possible...?...I have unregistered guns now...now what...? I'm not going to register them.
It's that "frustration" of being unable to excert "control" over others that is tearing you apart. YOU don't understand..."what are you afraid of anyway?".
It's your ignorance about the situation...just like the person that is pushing for the magazine ban and she thinks that they are "bullets and will be shot up anyway and that will reduce their numbers over time"...ROTFLMAO...SHE DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT SHE IS TRYING TO BAN!!!!!!!
Why is it that you can't come up with evidence based arguments instead of your ideological nonsense?
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Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#103730 Apr 8, 2013
Sir Bucking Fastard wrote:
<quoted text>
If ANYONE is living with 'delusions of grandeur,' it would be YOURSELF, inasmuch as it is YOURSELF whom has stated that YOU want to WIPEOUT ALL OF HUMANITY in order to achieve your own ends.
OH NO, SBF, not all humanity, just the weapon needing, violence loving clueless idiots, and you would be first on that list. Do get it right.
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So much for moderator, when they let this shit go on page after page...go see a gun owner and do us all a favor.

Since: Feb 13

United States

#103733 Apr 8, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I think you are a stupid coward, and America is rife with them.
You have been tossing with gun violence since the Brits left, and it is killing your population....one by one or 20 at a time and your answer.....more guns and more violence...oh...who's the smart wittle fella then....your moronic tit.
Like I said, shit for brains, you wanna see how big of a coward I'am? Come here and threaten my kid.
I'll show your fat azz.
Dont worry about our population, like you give a shit, you moron. You should be proud, yelling for more guns, if that were the case, after all, you make a career of hateing americans; and now you try to act as if you're concerned about our population. You hipocrite, you cant even stand for SOMETHING whitout changeing your mind.
Tell me, when you change your mind, what do you do with the diaper?
Marauder

Fairbanks, AK

#103734 Apr 8, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
OK.
I'd like to keep score...let us know how many men you "get rid of".
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