It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103299 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#102762 Mar 16, 2013
Wayne LaPierre wrote:
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Increased market share of the American economy.
The military industrial complex does that very well on its own without the public market.
GoGoBar is a Pedo

Thailand

#102763 Mar 16, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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The military industrial complex does that very well on its own without the public market.
3200ft/second. A NATO round.

Go away Tea!

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#102764 Mar 16, 2013
GoGoBar is a Pedo wrote:
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A NATO round.
Which means what exactly?

Since: Jan 11

Abingdon, VA

#102765 Mar 16, 2013
GoGoBar is a Pedo wrote:
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3200ft/second. A NATO round.
Go away Tea!
Duh. NATO bullets go fast. Duh.
Frank

Oakland, CA

#102766 Mar 16, 2013
just an allusion wrote:
I'm still waiting for one(1), just one(1), logical, rationale, reasonable explanation why your typical, average, everyday citizen-at-large would require a semi-auto/automatic/military style, assault grade weapon to defend themselves &/or their property, the AR-15 under contention for example...Just one(1), you know, much like I'm still waiting for someone to show me one(1), just one(1), so-called "Weapon of Mass Destruction" to justify all of the tax payer money and the lives of our sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters of our soldiers in arms, not to mention all of the civilian lives we lost here in the states with the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers, as well as all of the subsequent and still tabulating deaths resulting from the Towers' the toxic debris fallout, the government has and is put(ting) into the yet still ongoing war in the Middle East...Just one(1).
Anyone...?
Lots of explanations in the rightwing - alternative universe ...
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#102767 Mar 16, 2013
Frank wrote:
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Lots of explanations in the rightwing - alternative universe ...
Derrr, alternative universe. Are you parroting Move On or Think Progress?
The Bucking Fastard

UK

#102768 Mar 16, 2013
Frank wrote:
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Lots of explanations in the rightwing - alternative universe ...
But don't you really mean the 'leftwing alternative universe' where you communofascist ZIONAZIS are bitter clingers to your belief system where everyone is subject to your oppressive control freak, power junky ideology?
Don't be afraid to admit it, because every time you post, it bleeds right on through.
The Bucking Fastard

UK

#102769 Mar 16, 2013
just an allusion wrote:
I'm still waiting for one(1), just one(1), logical, rationale, reasonable explanation why your typical, average, everyday citizen-at-large would require a semi-auto/automatic/military style, assault grade weapon to defend themselves &/or their property, the AR-15 under contention for example...Just one(1), you know, much like I'm still waiting for someone to show me one(1), just one(1), so-called "Weapon of Mass Destruction" to justify all of the tax payer money and the lives of our sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters of our soldiers in arms, not to mention all of the civilian lives we lost here in the states with the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers, as well as all of the subsequent and still tabulating deaths resulting from the Towers' the toxic debris fallout, the government has and is put(ting) into the yet still ongoing war in the Middle East...Just one(1).
Anyone...?
You want an answer to your query?
All any red-blooded American has to say is that he has the right to own just any darned gun he damned well pleases, and he DOES NOT have render ANY kind of reason to you or anyone else.

Americans have a BILL OF RIGHT, and NOT as bill of needs, or wants.

FInally, do tell: Just how is it that you conflate the events of 9-11-2001 with gun ownership?
The Bucking Fastard

UK

#102770 Mar 16, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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Derrr, alternative universe. Are you parroting Move On or Think Progress?
She's parroting the buttcrack in the whitehouse.
Frank

Oakland, CA

#102771 Mar 16, 2013
The Bucking Fastard wrote:
<quoted text>
But don't you really mean the 'leftwing alternative universe' where you communofascist ZIONAZIS are bitter clingers to your belief system where everyone is subject to your oppressive control freak, power junky ideology?
Don't be afraid to admit it, because every time you post, it bleeds right on through.
Huh?
The Bucking Fastard

UK

#102772 Mar 16, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh?
Yeah!
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#102773 Mar 16, 2013
The Bucking Fastard wrote:
<quoted text>
You want an answer to your query?
All any red-blooded American has to say is that he has the right to own just any darned gun he damned well pleases, and he DOES NOT have render ANY kind of reason to you or anyone else.
Americans have a BILL OF RIGHT, and NOT as bill of needs, or wants.
FInally, do tell: Just how is it that you conflate the events of 9-11-2001 with gun ownership?
Stop crying about 911.. You finally got back a bit of your own medicine..

How about a little "shock and Awe" for you...

Enjoy....
truth

Perth, Australia

#102775 Mar 16, 2013
cancare=aluminium =satellite
cancer line latitude=look map if i am liar
look globe map where going..
latitude is measured of degree..

Since: Feb 11

Cambridge, UK

#102776 Mar 17, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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First of all, they don't fire any differently than most hunting rifles which are more lethal. They are not military weapons. The military uses automatic weapons. They are simply military in appearance. I don't know where term weapon of mass destruction comes from. Most semiautomatic hand guns carry more rounds and are a larger caliber.
One example would be a rancher on the southern border with drug cartel trafficking through his property and subject to a home invasion out in the wilderness.
What if the twin tower attack was even better planned and was accompanied by a sleeper cell uprising in the streets with their automatic weapons? Could the average citizen protect his home and family? The second amendment provides the average citizen the ability to defend themselves.
And most of all, once you tinker with one of the bill of rights, the rest of them are vulnerable. Maybe someday the press speaking out against government policy would become treasonous once the bills of rights are compromised.
Why don't we try criminal control instead of disarming honest citizens?
Criminal control ???? just to be clear, are you talking about the scum to be found in the average neighbourhood,,or poloticians,,I bet you mean both ;-)
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#102777 Mar 17, 2013
spider1954 wrote:
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Criminal control ???? just to be clear, are you talking about the scum to be found in the average neighbourhood,,or poloticians,,I bet you mean both ;-)
Yes, both would be something to see. The federal government would be a target rich environment.:-)

A Grand Jury probe into one of my senator's shady deeds has begun. His good friend and campaign donor had been bilking the Medicare system and the senator intervened in the dispute in favor of his buddy. Federal contracts were directed his way also.

This is the side of a federally run healthcare system no one seems to see.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/n...

The investigation had been delayed by Obama's Attorney General until after the election last November.

Since: Feb 11

Cambridge, UK

#102779 Mar 17, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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Yes, both would be something to see. The federal government would be a target rich environment.:-)
A Grand Jury probe into one of my senator's shady deeds has begun. His good friend and campaign donor had been bilking the Medicare system and the senator intervened in the dispute in favor of his buddy. Federal contracts were directed his way also.
This is the side of a federally run healthcare system no one seems to see.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/n...
The investigation had been delayed by Obama's Attorney General until after the election last November.
Yes,,it's interesting how the smell is the same regardless of the location.

I think I mentioned previously that a public vote is to be organised regarding the British peoples feeling on whether they wish to remain in the EU. IF this takes place it will not occur untill 2015, however we all want that vote now. In the meantime two more eastern european countries will be joining the EU flooding the UK with cheap, uneducated labour.
These immmigrants can under our present rules claim a myriad of benefits from the UK and have them paid in their countries of origin . A recipe for self destruction,,the same is happening in the US,,,other countries look on and chuckle,,,OHHHHHHHHHHHH how little they realise they go down to.

Can you tell me what reason Obama's Attorney General gave for delaying an investigation untill after the election ????????
Jasmine88

Ramnicu Valcea, Romania

#102780 Mar 17, 2013
oh my... i cant believe what i am reading!!!!

Since: Feb 11

Cambridge, UK

#102781 Mar 17, 2013
Jasmine88 wrote:
oh my... i cant believe what i am reading!!!!
That's really helpfull,,,thanks.
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#102782 Mar 17, 2013
spider1954 wrote:
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Yes,,it's interesting how the smell is the same regardless of the location.
I think I mentioned previously that a public vote is to be organised regarding the British peoples feeling on whether they wish to remain in the EU. IF this takes place it will not occur untill 2015, however we all want that vote now. In the meantime two more eastern european countries will be joining the EU flooding the UK with cheap, uneducated labour.
These immmigrants can under our present rules claim a myriad of benefits from the UK and have them paid in their countries of origin . A recipe for self destruction,,the same is happening in the US,,,other countries look on and chuckle,,,OHHHHHHHHHHHH how little they realise they go down to.
Can you tell me what reason Obama's Attorney General gave for
delaying an investigation untill after the election ????????
The senator and the administration are of the same ideology. The senator votes down party lines every time. The Attorney General prevented the publicity from ruining the senator's chances of re-election. There was no reason given. Some right wing news outlets attempted to bring this to light before the election, but the incidents were buried by the mainstream media who are of the same left wing ideology. A regime protected by the press doesn't have to give a reason :-).

What is the opinion of most of the Brits concerning the EU? It seems the UK and Germany would most benefit from leaving the EU.

Our own early history as a country was very much like the EU, loosely connected sovereign states joined by the Articles of Confederation. It didn't last long. The EU union has an advantage over that with a single currency though.
Jasmine88

Ramnicu Valcea, Romania

#102783 Mar 17, 2013
spider1954 wrote:
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That's really helpfull,,,thanks.
nothing that i say would matter, because obviously u have something against my country and Romanians overall... i dont know weather i should feel bad, guilty or apologize for whatever Romanians did to u.
still i believe u are unfair.
UK is beautiful, u are lucky!! i've been there many times on holiday and i have lots of friends over there. all the good memories will remain forever, no matter what the future brings.

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