It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103296 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Klink

Cameron, MO

#100628 Feb 21, 2013

Australia and the UK cannot be compared to the USA due to the multicultural history of the US.

The violence in the US is primarily found in the Sanctuary Cities.

It's the multiculturalism stupid.

Meanwhile small town USA with a more homogeneous population & plenty of guns has close to no crime or violence.

Gun laws have nothing to do with stopping crime.


Spocko

Oakland, CA

#100629 Feb 21, 2013
Klink wrote:
Australia and the UK cannot be compared to the USA due to the multicultural history of the US.
The violence in the US is primarily found in the Sanctuary Cities.
It's the multiculturalism stupid.
Meanwhile small town USA with a more homogeneous population & plenty of guns has close to no crime or violence.
Gun laws have nothing to do with stopping crime.
So how's life in your tiny little world of fantasy?
Guppy

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#100630 Feb 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the point here fish is did you learn anything, are you capable of learning anything, and by your response your answer is a resounding NO. You have the mindset of an old person who has become set in their ways, so fail to learn new things which in turn puts them behind the eight ball. So sad because those who stop learning stand still and by your posts you are one of those that have stood still. I wonder would you be any more receptive to learning about other countries, and seeing it has been said that most Americans don't even know geographically where Iraq or Afghanistan is and going by your attitude, I would believe it. Go get your blanky and cup of soup and veg out in front of the tv till age catches up with you and it does seem to be gaining on you quicker than the norm. I think reading a book might be asking too much. Traveling broadens the mind and it would definately make a dent in your case. I can speak on your country because I have been there and met the locals. The country and the people I met I like(non gun owners of course) and made some strong like minded friends and aquainances that I have enjoyed chin wagging with to this day, and shock horror fish some have actually come down and stayed to see our country. Stay in your goldfish bowl fish, you will be safer their as the world at large will just blow your tiny fish mind.
I am set in my ways? Isn't everyone?

I read a book once and felt as though I was being brainwashed. Never again. Books are for the uppity.

According to you, Americans are pretty dense. If we are dense, can you imagine what the people are like in other parts of the world? Boggles the mind.

You met the locals in the U.S.? I don't remember meeting you. Where did you visit?

Yes, Guppy will stay in her goldfish bowl with her tiny fish mind. Suits me.

Anything else to add?
Guppy

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#100631 Feb 21, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems to have worked for me for almost 17 years.
Your wife must be a saint.

You are a tough cookie.
Guppy

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#100632 Feb 21, 2013
VET wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't give a damn about white people there is not many of them if you are talking about caucasians they are not predigest they kill everybody.
Well thought out.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#100634 Feb 21, 2013
ando wrote:
if the gun homicide rate was ALREADY FALLING before port arthur, then how many lives has the buyback ACTUALLY saved?
starting statistics from 1996 onwards is WRONG and deceptive.
guncontrol.org is hardly a reliable source in this debate.
still yet to get an answer to my original question.........guncontrol.or g claim 200 lives a year have been saved because of the buyback but the handed in guns have simply been replaced + then some. So we have more guns now but the gun homicides are still falling! ever considered there are other factors at play? or are you just going to leave your blinkers on?
<quoted text>
Yes more guns are entering the country and more guns equal more gun deaths unless you have and enforce strong gun control laws as you do here. In Australia gun shooters are not given carte' blanche' in shooting whether that be to protect themselves their families or their homes you can only use enough force as deemed necessary to retard the perpetrator, and if their is you shoot someone trespassing etc you are up for a murder charge, unlike America with their many guns they can freely carry or buy guns without a background check at gun shows or are covered by a stand your ground law....In Australia gun control works it has limited death by gun, because if you are a gun owner it is more likely you will be arrested for even the small misdameanors, when caught and have your gun licences revoked.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#100635 Feb 21, 2013
Guppy wrote:
<quoted text>
I am set in my ways? Isn't everyone?
A: NO! din't you know that? MMMMMMM!

I read a book once and felt as though I was being brainwashed. Never again. Books are for the uppity.

A: Don't lie.

According to you, Americans are pretty dense. If we are dense, can you imagine what the people are like in other parts of the world? Boggles the mind.

A: Yes that there are people in other parts of the world that actually use their brains.

You met the locals in the U.S.? I don't remember meeting you. Where did you visit?
A: I tried to keep away from meeting the noongs, so stuck to the uppity parts of America.

Yes, Guppy will stay in her goldfish bowl with her tiny fish mind. Suits me.
A: You have no choice, you can't get out by yourself.

Anything else to add?

A: How kind and No I think I have been clear and concise.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#100636 Feb 21, 2013
ando wrote:
you can always tell someone who is defensive and does not understand the issues.....resort to name calling and putting people down - pathetic.
<quoted text>
I did not resort to name calling, I told the truth and that is what you should do when an idiot is an idiot you don't say he is not an idiot. And I have learnt from my experience that the gun lovers on this site are lacking somewhat in grey matter, and there are plenty of examples of that if you care to go through 4000 odd posts. Or are you just one that whinges about others and fails to see it my truth is a relevant truth?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#100637 Feb 21, 2013
Klink wrote:
Australia and the UK cannot be compared to the USA due to the multicultural history of the US.
The violence in the US is primarily found in the Sanctuary Cities.
It's the multiculturalism stupid.
Meanwhile small town USA with a more homogeneous population & plenty of guns has close to no crime or violence.
Gun laws have nothing to do with stopping crime.
Of course gun laws stop crime else you would never have hung anyone for murder, and you would freely have murdered millions of those so called negro's, Indians because of your ethnic supremacy by now, what stopped you in your tracks are laws.
downhill246

Delray Beach, FL

#100638 Feb 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
That truly says more about the weak mentality of the American gun owning people and the brainwashing of the that pox Pierre and his NRA than it has anything at all to do with Obama, but then you would need a free thinking brain to understand that, so it isn't easily understood by the gun toting idiots. But I never cease to be amazed at how clueless these yanks really are, and there ability to seize on a financial oportunity.
Imagine that. An anti gun president being named gun salesman of the year. Actually President Obama probably appreciates the fact that he was responsible for creating so many new jobs even if it wasn't in an industry that he likes. Just goes to show you how perceptive we Americans are compared to some stupid foreigners that post on Topix. As far as never ceasing to be amazed, didn't you say the same thing when you tied your shoe laces on the first try three times in a row with your eyes closed?
downhill246

Delray Beach, FL

#100639 Feb 21, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course gun laws stop crime else you would never have hung anyone for murder, and you would freely have murdered millions of those so called negro's, Indians because of your ethnic supremacy by now, what stopped you in your tracks are laws.
??????????

What particular gun law caused us to hang people for murder?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#100641 Feb 21, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
??????????
What particular gun law caused us to hang people for murder?
Don't be obtuse.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#100642 Feb 21, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Imagine that. An anti gun president being named gun salesman of the year. Actually President Obama probably appreciates the fact that he was responsible for creating so many new jobs even if it wasn't in an industry that he likes. Just goes to show you how perceptive we Americans are compared to some stupid foreigners that post on Topix. As far as never ceasing to be amazed, didn't you say the same thing when you tied your shoe laces on the first try three times in a row with your eyes closed?
Where does it say that Obama is anti gun, another thing you gun owning tits made up? Last I heard him say is that he believes in the second ammendment that allows you the right to bear arms....does that sound like a anti gun president? More bullshit and hype by a lunatical propagandarist.
MalbaCACCA is junjab poo

Tbilisi, Georgia

#100643 Feb 21, 2013
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MalbaCACCA is junjab poo

Tbilisi, Georgia

#100645 Feb 21, 2013
Diarrhea (AmE)(or diarrhoea)(BrE)(from the Greek &#948;&#953;&#940; &#961;&#961;&#959; &#953;&#945;, &#948;&#953;&#945; dia "through" + &#961;&#941;&#969; rheo "flow" meaning "flowing through"[2]) is the condition of having three or more loose or liquid bowel movements per day.[3] It is a common cause of death in developing countries and the second most common cause of infant deaths worldwide. The loss of fluids through diarrhea can cause dehydration and electrolyte disturbances such as potassium deficiency or other salt imbalances.

In 2009 diarrhea was estimated to have caused 1.1 million deaths in people aged 5 and over[4] and 1.5 million deaths in children under the age of 5.[1] Oral rehydration solutions (ORS) with modest amounts of salts and zinc tablets are the treatment of choice and have been estimated to have saved 50 million children in the past 25 years.[1] In cases where ORS is not available, homemade solutions are often used.
MalbaCACCA is junjab poo

Tbilisi, Georgia

#100646 Feb 21, 2013
Diarrhea is defined by the World Health Organization as having three or more loose or liquid stools per day, or as having more stools than is normal for that person.[3]

SecretorySecretory diarrhea means that there is an increase in the active secretion, or there is an inhibition of absorption. There is little to no structural damage. The most common cause of this type of diarrhea is a cholera toxin that stimulates the secretion of anions, especially chloride ions. Therefore, to maintain a charge balance in the lumen, sodium is carried with it, along with water. In this type of diarrhea intestinal fluid secretion is isotonic with plasma even during fasting.[5] It continues even when there is no oral food intake.

OsmoticOsmotic diarrhea occurs when too much water is drawn into the bowels. If a person drinks solutions with excessive sugar or excessive salt, these can draw water from the body into the bowel and cause osmotic diarrhea.[6] Osmotic diarrhea can also be the result of maldigestion (e.g., pancreatic disease or Coeliac disease), in which the nutrients are left in the lumen to pull in water. Or it can be caused by osmotic laxatives (which work to alleviate constipation by drawing water into the bowels). In healthy individuals, too much magnesium or vitamin C or undigested lactose can produce osmotic diarrhea and distention of the bowel. A person who has lactose intolerance can have difficulty absorbing lactose after an extraordinarily high intake of dairy products. In persons who have fructose malabsorption, excess fructose intake can also cause diarrhea. High-fructose foods that also have a high glucose content are more absorbable and less likely to cause diarrhea. Sugar alcohols such as sorbitol (often found in sugar-free foods) are difficult for the body to absorb and, in large amounts, may lead to osmotic diarrhea.[5] In most of these cases, osmotic diarrhea stops when offending agent (e.g. milk, sorbitol) is stopped
MalbaCACCA is junjab poo

Tbilisi, Georgia

#100647 Feb 21, 2013
Exudative diarrhea occurs with the presence of blood and pus in the stool. This occurs with inflammatory bowel diseases, such as Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis, and other severe infections such as E. coli or other forms of food poisoning.[5]

Motility-relatedMotility-relat ed diarrhea is caused by the rapid movement of food through the intestines (hypermotility). If the food moves too quickly through the gastrointestinal tract, there is not enough time for sufficient nutrients and water to be absorbed. This can be due to a vagotomy or diabetic neuropathy, or a complication of menstruation[citation needed]. Hyperthyroidism can produce hypermotility and lead to pseudodiarrhea and occasionally real diarrhea. Diarrhea can be treated with antimotility agents (such as loperamide). Hypermotility can be observed in people who have had portions of their bowel removed, allowing less total time for absorption of nutrients.

InflammatoryInflammatory diarrhea occurs when there is damage to the mucosal lining or brush border, which leads to a passive loss of protein-rich fluids and a decreased ability to absorb these lost fluids. Features of all three of the other types of diarrhea can be found in this type of diarrhea. It can be caused by bacterial infections, viral infections, parasitic infections, or autoimmune problems such as inflammatory bowel diseases. It can also be caused by tuberculosis, colon cancer, and enteritis.[citation needed]

DysenteryGenerally, if there is blood visible in the stools, it is not diarrhea, but dysentery. The blood is trace of an invasion of bowel tissue. Dysentery is a symptom of, among others, Shigella, Entamoeba histolytica, and Salmonella.
MalbaCACCA is junjab poo

Ukraine

#100648 Feb 21, 2013
MalabsorptionMain article: Malabsorption
Malabsorption is the inability to absorb food fully, mostly from disorders in the small bowel, but also due to maldigestion from diseases of the pancreas.
Causes include:
enzyme deficiencies or mucosal abnormality, as in food allergy and food intolerance, e.g. celiac disease (gluten intolerance), lactose intolerance (intolerance to milk sugar, common in non-Europeans), and fructose malabsorption.
pernicious anemia, or impaired bowel function due to the inability to absorb vitamin B12,
loss of pancreatic secretions, which may be due to cystic fibrosis or pancreatitis,
structural defects, like short bowel syndrome (surgically removed bowel) and radiation fibrosis, such as usually follows cancer treatment and other drugs, including agents used in chemotherapy; and
certain drugs, like orlistat, which inhibits the absorption of fat.
Inflammatory bowel diseaseMain article: Inflammatory bowel disease
The two overlapping types here are of unknown origin:
Ulcerative colitis is marked by chronic bloody diarrhea and inflammation mostly affects the distal colon near the rectum.
Crohn's disease typically affects fairly well demarcated segments of bowel in the colon and often affects the end of the small bowel.
Irritable bowel syndromeMain article: Irritable bowel syndrome
Another possible cause of diarrhea is irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) which usually presents with abdominal discomfort relieved by defecation and unusual stool (diarrhea or constipation) for at least 3 days a week over the previous 3 months.[19] Symptoms of diarrhea-predominant IBS can be managed through a combination of dietary changes, soluble fiber supplements, and/or medications such as loperamide or codeine. About 30% of patients with diarrhea-predominant IBS have bile acid malabsorption diagnosed with an abnormal SeHCAT test.[20]
Other causesDiarrhea can be caused by chronic ethanol ingestion.[21]
Ischemic bowel disease. This usually affects older people and can be due to blocked arteries.
Microscopic colitis, a type of inflammatory bowel disease where changes are only seen on histological examination of colonic biopsies.
Bile salt malabsorption (primary bile acid diarrhea) where excessive bile acids in the colon produce a secretory diarrhea.
Hormone-secreting tumors: some hormones (e.g., serotonin) can cause diarrhea if excreted in excess (usually from a tumor).
Chronic mild diarrhea in infants and toddlers may occur with no obvious cause and with no other ill effects; this condition is called toddler's diarrhea.
PathophysiologyEvolutionAccord ing to two researchers, Nesse and Williams, diarrhea may function as an evolved expulsion defense mechanism. As a result, if it is stopped, there might be a delay in recovery.[22] They cite in support of this argument research published in 1973 which found that treating Shigella with the anti-diarrhea drug (Co-phenotrope, Lomotil) caused people to stay feverish twice as long as those not so treated. The researchers indeed themselves observed that: "Lomotil may be contraindicated in shigellosis. Diarrhea may represent a defense mechanism".[23]
Diagnostic approachThe following types of diarrhea may indicate further investigation is needed:
In infants
Moderate
MalbaCACCA is junjab poo

Ukraine

#100649 Feb 21, 2013
ManagementIn many cases of diarrhea, replacing lost fluid and salts is the only treatment needed. This is usually by mouth – oral rehydration therapy – or, in severe cases, intravenously.[1] Diet restrictions such as the BRAT diet are no longer recommended.[27] Research does not support the limiting of milk to children as doing so has no effect on duration of diarrhea.[28] To the contrary, WHO recommends that children with diarrhea continue to eat as sufficient nutrients are usually still absorbed to support continued growth and weight gain and that continuing to eat speeds also recovery of normal intestinal functioning.[6] CDC recommends that children and adults with cholera also continue to eat.[29]
Medications such as loperamide (Imodium) and bismuth subsalicylate may be beneficial; however they may be contraindicated in certain situations.[30]
Fluids and preventing dehydrationSee also: Management of dehydration
To prevent dehydration and salt loss, it is widely recommended a person begin drinking Oral Rehydration Solution (ORS) as soon as possible. This strategy adds modest amounts of sugar and salt to water. There are prepackaged ORS products available. A person can also use home products such as lightly salted soup and/or lightly salted water from the cooking of rice. Supplemental zinc and potassium are also helpful, but ORS should not be delayed in the case that these are not immediately available.[6][29]Oral Rehydration Solution (ORS) can be used to prevent dehydration and in many cases is quite literally a life saver. Standard home solutions such as salted rice water, salted yogurt drinks, vegetable and chicken soups with salt can be given. Home solutions such as water in which cereal has been cooked, unsalted soup, green coconut water, weak tea (unsweetened), and unsweetened fresh fruit juices can have from half a teaspoon to full teaspoon of salt (from one-and-a-half to three grams) added per liter. Clean plain water can also be one of several fluids given.[6] There are commercial solutions such as Pedialyte, and relief agencies such as UNICEF widely distribute packets of salts and sugar. A WHO publication for physicians recommends a homemade ORS consisting of one liter water with one teaspoon salt (3 grams) and two tablespoons sugar (18 grams) added[6](approximately the "taste of tears"[31]). Rehydration Project recommends adding the same amount of sugar but only one-half a teaspoon of salt, stating that this more dilute approach is less risky with very little loss of effectiveness.[32] Both agree that drinks with too much sugar or salt can make dehydration worse.[6][32]
Appropriate amounts of supplemental zinc and potassium should be added if available. But the availability of these should not delay rehydration. As WHO points out, the most important thing is to begin preventing dehydration as early as possible.[6] In another example of prompt ORS hopefully preventing dehydration, CDC recommends for the treatment of cholera continuing to give Oral Rehydration Solution during travel to medical treatment.[29]
Vomiting often occurs during the first hour or two of treatment with ORS, especially if a child drinks the solution too quickly, but this seldom prevents successful rehydration since most of the fluid is still absorbed. WHO recommends that if a child vomits, to wait five or ten minutes and then start to give the solution again more slowly.[6]

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