It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103293 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Besara

Omaha, NE

#99673 Feb 7, 2013
rider wrote:
The Ashcroft Group, LLC is a strategic firm specialising in lobbying started by former United States Attorney General John Ashcroft in 2005. Members of the group include former Vice President Dick Cheney, Press Secretary Juleanna Glover Weiss, former Chief of Staff at the Department of Justice David Ayres, and former Chief of Staff for Management at the Department of Homeland Security Susan Richmond. In April 2009, four former United States Attorneys joined the Ashcroft Group: Michael Sullivan, former U.S. Attorney for the District of Massachusetts; John Ratcliffe, former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Texas; Johnny Sutton, former U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Texas; and Catherine Hanaway, former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Missouri.
Johnny Sutton is an attorney who served as United States Attorney for the Western District of Texas from 2001 until 2009, and chaired the Attorney General's Advisory Committee of United States Attorneys. Sutton is known for the prosecution of United States Border Patrol agents Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos. He is currently a partner with the law firm Ashcroft Sutton Ratcliffe, LLC in Austin, Texas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Sutton
Weren't you the one who put the hit on John De Camp? Was he getting too close to you and your cohorts?
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#99674 Feb 7, 2013
We may have a debt and spending problem but the real PROPLEM is the American-Household-Income-Prob lem!!!!!!!!!! So why are the GOPers so worried about millionaires???
http://swampland.time.com/2013/02/04/the-most...

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#99675 Feb 7, 2013
Spocko wrote:
We may have a debt and spending problem but the real PROPLEM is the American-Household-Income-Prob lem!!!!!!!!!! So why are the GOPers so worried about millionaires???
http://swampland.time.com/2013/02/04/the-most...
Have you ever received a job offer from a poor man???
rider

Gwinn, MI

#99676 Feb 7, 2013
The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Covenant,_Th ...
Besara

Omaha, NE

#99677 Feb 7, 2013
rider wrote:
The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Covenant,_Th ...
Robert Wadman still speaks highly of you and your ability to get him young boys.
Straight Shooter

Tuxtla Gutiérrez, Mexico

#99678 Feb 7, 2013
What a bunch of Commie turds. Do you shit baby Stalins or are you waiting for ObaMao to get runny so you can splatter shit him ? I hope his Stormtroopers shoot your kids first!
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#99679 Feb 7, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you ever received a job offer from a poor man???
You sure you want argue along those lines? Most entrepreneurs are not only poor they are in debt up to their arm pits. Those millionaires are really hurtin’ ain't they - yemoron!!
rider

Gwinn, MI

#99680 Feb 7, 2013
KBR Secret Indemnity Agreement Signed By Army Chief Tainted In Enron Scandal
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/kbr-...
Guppy

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#99682 Feb 7, 2013
mind numbing

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99684 Feb 8, 2013
Oh lookey here, another law abiding citizen goes and kills people with guns in America....It seem that a cop no less has now become a murderer....a decent law abiding citizen touted to uphold the law...a good guy, has just killed three people simply for getting the sack...these are not crims that are killing these innocents it is the direct oposite of a criminal...law abiders with guns....
This proves my point, without doubt!.....There are too many law abiders out there that would do the same thing if this were them in this position?...That is the big worry, isn't it?...because last week or a month ago this guy was just a decent normal everyday guy doing his bit for society to keep it safe, as most gun owning law abiders are, but even moreso, as he was a cop...now he is just another crazy gun loving American who has murdered people to date, and it was made all the more easy for him because he could legally get access to guns.....NEXT and there will be another next time and another and etc......
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#99685 Feb 8, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
Oh lookey here, another law abiding citizen goes and kills people with guns in America....It seem that a cop no less has now become a murderer....a decent law abiding citizen touted to uphold the law...a good guy, has just killed three people simply for getting the sack...these are not crims that are killing these innocents it is the direct oposite of a criminal...law abiders with guns....
This proves my point, without doubt!.....There are too many law abiders out there that would do the same thing if this were them in this position?...That is the big worry, isn't it?...because last week or a month ago this guy was just a decent normal everyday guy doing his bit for society to keep it safe, as most gun owning law abiders are, but even moreso, as he was a cop...now he is just another crazy gun loving American who has murdered people to date, and it was made all the more easy for him because he could legally get access to guns.....NEXT and there will be another next time and another and etc......
It gets worse. Police shoot at wrong truck. It's time to disarm all policemen due to the irresponsible actions of a couple of them.:-)

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/07/l-...
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#99687 Feb 8, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
Oh lookey here, another law abiding citizen goes and kills people with guns in America....It seem that a cop no less has now become a murderer....a decent law abiding citizen touted to uphold the law...a good guy, has just killed three people simply for getting the sack...these are not crims that are killing these innocents it is the direct oposite of a criminal...law abiders with guns....
This proves my point, without doubt!.....There are too many law abiders out there that would do the same thing if this were them in this position?...That is the big worry, isn't it?...because last week or a month ago this guy was just a decent normal everyday guy doing his bit for society to keep it safe, as most gun owning law abiders are, but even moreso, as he was a cop...now he is just another crazy gun loving American who has murdered people to date, and it was made all the more easy for him because he could legally get access to guns.....NEXT and there will be another next time and another and etc......
Remember, it's not just the "crazies" or the "bad guys" that fire off their guns and kill people. For every "crazy" and "criminal," look at articles about shootings – or watch coverage on your local "knife and gun club" television evening news -- and you'll as frequently, if not more often, find an account of a neighbor who when asked about the shooter, comments something akin to, "He was always very nice to me and my dog, although he generally kept to himself. He was a quiet man, a good neighbor."
These are the "good guys" in the world of the NRA, who just happen to have guns when they literally go ballistic.(Not to mention the "good guys" who get mad at their wives and girlfriends and use guns to beat or shoot them.) What's interesting about "law abiding" citizens is they're law abiding right up to the point they're not.
Stoneman

Boise, ID

#99689 Feb 8, 2013
Amazing. Lefties were shrieking non-stop for years about THREE KNOWN, PROVEN TERRORISTS who were waterboarded. That's right, ONLY THREE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET WERE WATERBOARDED.

Not a peep about Lord Obama saying he thinks it's cool to blow up "suspected terrorists" with drones. No proof. No due process. Just whoever the hell Lord Obama wants to blow up.

Where is Code Pink? Haven't heard a word from them in years, even though we're still in AFghanistan.

You don't suppose... they were stooges for the Socialist/Democrats?
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#99690 Feb 8, 2013
Stoneman wrote:
Amazing. Lefties were shrieking non-stop for years about THREE KNOWN, PROVEN TERRORISTS who were waterboarded. That's right, ONLY THREE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET WERE WATERBOARDED.
Not a peep about Lord Obama saying he thinks it's cool to blow up "suspected terrorists" with drones. No proof. No due process. Just whoever the hell Lord Obama wants to blow up.
Where is Code Pink? Haven't heard a word from them in years, even though we're still in AFghanistan.
You don't suppose... they were stooges for the Socialist/Democrats?
LOL ... take two aspirin and lie down before your Obama hatred explodes your f-d up head :-/

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99691 Feb 9, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
It gets worse. Police shoot at wrong truck. It's time to disarm all policemen due to the irresponsible actions of a couple of them.:-)
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/07/l-...
Yeah I saw that.....I would be shooting first and asking questions later if I was a cop in America.....:)

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99692 Feb 9, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember, it's not just the "crazies" or the "bad guys" that fire off their guns and kill people. For every "crazy" and "criminal," look at articles about shootings – or watch coverage on your local "knife and gun club" television evening news -- and you'll as frequently, if not more often, find an account of a neighbor who when asked about the shooter, comments something akin to, "He was always very nice to me and my dog, although he generally kept to himself. He was a quiet man, a good neighbor."
These are the "good guys" in the world of the NRA, who just happen to have guns when they literally go ballistic.(Not to mention the "good guys" who get mad at their wives and girlfriends and use guns to beat or shoot them.) What's interesting about "law abiding" citizens is they're law abiding right up to the point they're not.
That is it, you just never know what people will do at any given time, for whatever reason or when....so the last thing you would want to do is give all law abiders the right to own a gun.....it just encourages them....
Levi

United States

#99693 Feb 9, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
Oh lookey here, another law abiding citizen goes and kills people with guns in America....It seem that a cop no less has now become a murderer....a decent law abiding citizen touted to uphold the law...a good guy, has just killed three people simply for getting the sack...these are not crims that are killing these innocents it is the direct oposite of a criminal...law abiders with guns....
This proves my point, without doubt!.....There are too many law abiders out there that would do the same thing if this were them in this position?...That is the big worry, isn't it?...because last week or a month ago this guy was just a decent normal everyday guy doing his bit for society to keep it safe, as most gun owning law abiders are, but even moreso, as he was a cop...now he is just another crazy gun loving American who has murdered people to date, and it was made all the more easy for him because he could legally get access to guns.....NEXT and there will be another next time and another and etc......
First of all, dear woman, get your facts straight, if you know them at all. Secondly the cop WAS NOT a law abideing citizen, or cop, doing his job protecting the citizens. He lied about fellow officers, he was on the take, he had harassed a many citizen, took money from them, falseified reports on them, beat them, and yes, suspected of murdering a few. thats why he was 'sacked', and was under investigation. Now, Im not going to argue with you on this bc I know this, I have family that live in Memphis, the cop was bad, and now, he's out to kill other cops, which you failed to mention.
NOw, run back to your "I hate america" agenda, and see if you can dig something else up, maybe your lesbo freidn gogobar will help you out.
MalbarCACA Controller

Luton, UK

#99694 Feb 9, 2013
Levi wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, dear woman, get your facts straight, if you know them at all. Secondly the cop WAS NOT a law abideing citizen, or cop, doing his job protecting the citizens. He lied about fellow officers, he was on the take, he had harassed a many citizen, took money from them, falseified reports on them, beat them, and yes, suspected of murdering a few. thats why he was 'sacked', and was under investigation. Now, Im not going to argue with you on this bc I know this, I have family that live in Memphis, the cop was bad, and now, he's out to kill other cops, which you failed to mention.
NOw, run back to your "I hate america" agenda, and see if you can dig something else up, maybe your lesbo freidn gogobar will help you out.
"abideing " - Stupid Indian cute gayladyAderentboy
"falseified" - Stupid Indian cute gayladyAderentboy
"freidn " - Stupid Indian cute gayladyAderentboy

STUPID

Aggrolite

Since: Jan 13

Hampton, Australia

#99695 Feb 9, 2013
MalbarCACA Controller wrote:
<quoted text>
Removed
Who shamed me?
Levi

United States

#99697 Feb 9, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
Oh lookey here, another law abiding citizen goes and kills people with guns in America....It seem that a cop no less has now become a murderer....a decent law abiding citizen touted to uphold the law...a good guy, has just killed three people simply for getting the sack...these are not crims that are killing these innocents it is the direct oposite of a criminal...law abiders with guns....
This proves my point, without doubt!.....There are too many law abiders out there that would do the same thing if this were them in this position?...That is the big worry, isn't it?...because last week or a month ago this guy was just a decent normal everyday guy doing his bit for society to keep it safe, as most gun owning law abiders are, but even moreso, as he was a cop...now he is just another crazy gun loving American who has murdered people to date, and it was made all the more easy for him because he could legally get access to guns.....NEXT and there will be another next time and another and etc......
BTW dumbwit, if he's doing all this stuff he aint 'LAW ABIDING' now is he!? You're as stupid as some of these trolls, I'll tell you like I told them, if your brains were wind you wouldnt have enough to blow your nose!

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