It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103340 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Levi

United States

#99125 Jan 30, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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No wonder you have a gun....you are a sookie la la....
I guess thats an insult, espically since you posted it, I dont know what a sookie is. But I still know a mean ole lady when I see or hear one. There use to be one just like you liveing up the road from me, when she found herself a man to share her life with however, she changed, and now is the most kindest, most pleasant woman to be around, always happy, always laughing.
rabbit

Astrakhan, Russia

#99126 Jan 30, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
Jared Loughner shot from a Glock with an oversize magazine 33 bullets in 15 seconds and each bullet hit a victim.
The oversized magazine ban had expired. He was legally permitted to conceal and carry.
He exercised his right to fight Tyranny vigorously.
You dont even live in the USA.... get a life loser !!!
Is that all you do all day ? research every murder in the USA and post it on this site ?
You should be harvested for organs so someone else can live.
LEVI

United States

#99127 Jan 30, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
Jared Loughner shot from a Glock with an oversize magazine 33 bullets in 15 seconds and each bullet hit a victim.
The oversized magazine ban had expired. He was legally permitted to conceal and carry.
He exercised his right to fight Tyranny vigorously.
Shame on you, you have just insulted everyones intelligence here on this thread. Jared wasnt fighting tyranny, he was a murderer, a evil person. Just how low will you stoop, at anyones expense, to try and make a pointless point? I half way respected you, gave you the benifit of the doubt ( intelligently) but you just proved me wrong, no intelligence there.
LEVI

United States

#99128 Jan 30, 2013
Funny, how you gogobar, think that government is the answer to all that ales a people. Its actually scarey, to think that people like you still exist, people who are willing to surrender their GOD given rights to a government ( and Im not talking about gun rights here). You are a throwback from the communist era, the type of person whom surrenders to a government. Do you not value freedom, forget the gun thing here, this is about freedom in general. Why are you so eager for governmetn to control lives of people?
LEVI

United States

#99129 Jan 30, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL> Another dumb yankee, it is the New Zealanders who are known as the sheep shaggers....if you are going to have a go at a country at least get it right...
Wow, thats the pot calling the kettle black.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#99130 Jan 30, 2013
toysforboys wrote:
Another innocent youg girl has just been killed in Chicago; all whilst this stupid yankee ignorant rednecks stick to their guns (literally).
keep it up boys, at this rate we may have found a solution for the world overpopulation. the sad thing is that the victims are usually innocent people, and lately children seem to be the preferred target.
If all this animals are so obsessed with guns, Obama should send them to afghanistan to knock themselves out shooting and getting shot at by fighters, not by children.
Shame on you all yankees,, SHAME!!
Couldn't have happened in Chicago. They have some of the strictest gun laws on the books and Obama wouldn't send his voting base to Afghanistan.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#99131 Jan 30, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL> Another dumb yankee, it is the New Zealanders who are known as the sheep shaggers....if you are going to have a go at a country at least get it right...
If you are going to post stats try not to make an idiot out of yourself , sheep shagger.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#99132 Jan 30, 2013
LEVI wrote:
<quoted text> Shame on you, you have just insulted everyones intelligence here on this thread. Jared wasnt fighting tyranny, he was a murderer, a evil person. Just how low will you stoop, at anyones expense, to try and make a pointless point? I half way respected you, gave you the benifit of the doubt ( intelligently) but you just proved me wrong, no intelligence there.
Poor Jared. He THOUGHT he was fighting tyranny.
Just who ndecides when to fight tyranny? The individual or is there a leader?

In conclusion, reading the second United States Constitution, I can’t trust the current government because of the ratifications: The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar.

No! I won’t pay debt with a currency that’s not backed by gold and silver!

No! I won’t trust in God!

What’s government if words don’t have meaning?

http://lybio.net/tag/introduction-jared-lough...
GoGoBar

Thailand

#99133 Jan 30, 2013
LEVI wrote:
Funny, how you gogobar, think that government is the answer to all that ales a people. Its actually scarey, to think that people like you still exist, people who are willing to surrender their GOD given rights to a government ( and Im not talking about gun rights here). You are a throwback from the communist era, the type of person whom surrenders to a government. Do you not value freedom, forget the gun thing here, this is about freedom in general. Why are you so eager for governmetn to control lives of people?
It is a worldwide Phenomena in high income countries Levi.
Free Markets are not self correcting.
Your Govt is one of the biggest.
Now if you want to adopt Asian values and standard of living go ahead.
Put the Republicans in 100%. No other party.
Then you will be the same as China.
LEVI

United States

#99134 Jan 30, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
<quoted text>
It is a worldwide Phenomena in high income countries Levi.
Free Markets are not self correcting.
Your Govt is one of the biggest.
Now if you want to adopt Asian values and standard of living go ahead.
Put the Republicans in 100%. No other party.
Then you will be the same as China.
No thank you. I have nothing to benifit asia, and asia has nothing to benifit me. Personally, I wish the usofa would becme a isolationalist country. I wish we would pull all our troops, bases, men and women out of every country, and just let the world go to hell. Lets see how long it would be b4 a country is invaded by a hostile dictatorship or whatever, then lets see how quick that invaded country yells for yankee help. Its a shame a person like yourself sees nothing wrong with a government thats shoots a young girl for wanting an education, kills women for the simpilist things, outlaws music of all things, even kite flying. Its a shame you think people like saddam hussein is okay, that col kadaffi is okay. Yet what did thailand do to stop, or even help to stop, such evil men. Thailand did nothing, except badmouth america. Maybe thats bc thailand has/had some similarities with those men and countries, maybe, just maybe, they see a kinship?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99135 Jan 30, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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If you are going to post stats try not to make an idiot out of yourself , sheep shagger.
You must be related to Dr Frued, where the truth is simply an inconvenience, you dumb wank....
GoGoBar

Thailand

#99136 Jan 30, 2013
LEVI wrote:
<quoted text> No thank you. I have nothing to benifit asia, and asia has nothing to benifit me. Personally, I wish the usofa would becme a isolationalist country. I wish we would pull all our troops, bases, men and women out of every country, and just let the world go to hell. Lets see how long it would be b4 a country is invaded by a hostile dictatorship or whatever, then lets see how quick that invaded country yells for yankee help. Its a shame a person like yourself sees nothing wrong with a government thats shoots a young girl for wanting an education, kills women for the simpilist things, outlaws music of all things, even kite flying. Its a shame you think people like saddam hussein is okay, that col kadaffi is okay. Yet what did thailand do to stop, or even help to stop, such evil men. Thailand did nothing, except badmouth america. Maybe thats bc thailand has/had some similarities with those men and countries, maybe, just maybe, they see a kinship?
Do it. Pull out. Oh, Obahma is trying to do that.
Isolationist! Just beg other countries to place economic trade sanctions on the USA. Let them trade oil in any currency they want.
Stop supporting the Tyrants in the Arabian Gulf. Your allies are stoning, beheading and suppressing their people with vigour. Go ahead.

You have fine values but they just dont fit in a global world because the interests of the USA are the interests of it's corporations, not it's people. Just the same as the rest of the world.
GoGoBar

Thailand

#99137 Jan 30, 2013
A once Law Abiding gun owner....Snapped!

Neighbors describe Jimmy Lee Dykes, the 65-year-old Vietnam war veteran holding a 6-year-old child hostage in a bunker he constructed underneath his house, as a paranoid and aggressive survivalist who repeatedly threatened his neighbors with firearms.

Tim Byrd, an investigator with the Dale County Sheriff’s office described Dykes to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Hatewatch blog as a “survivalist” with “anti-America” views and ties to anti-government extremist.

“His friends and his neighbors stated that he did not trust the government, that he was a Vietnam vet, and that he had PTSD,” Byrd said.“He was standoffish, didn’t socialize or have any contact with anybody. He was a survivalist type.”

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#99138 Jan 30, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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clueless...clueless is you idiot gun owners thinking it cost you nothing to kill and butcher, pack store and clean up after your kill.....I have been hunting and know exactly what men are like, as well as the cost involved and wasted time and that includes open sea fishing....
Go to the shops and buy the stuff, and stop pandering to the sick side of your personality.....go get yourself a therapist like the rest of you dumb yanks.
Clueless is idiots like you anti's twisting things around as usual, saying we think it costs nothing at all is just stupid, but you're good at stupid.
Clueless is idiots like you anti's thinking that it's cheaper to get meat from the supermarket, more stupid.

Do the sums idiot, 100 kg's x $30 per kg supermarket price =$3000
100 kg's x self killed, one bullet 80 cents, a bit of time to process & store, free.
A bit more time to cleanup, free.
Chemicals used to clean the processing point,$80 per year (tax deductable) so essentially free.
Storage, freezer runs anyway so no extra cost.

Product = beautiful, tender, tasty meat.
Not like the stringy, gristly, bland garbage sold at the supermarket that idiots like you think is good.

I'm not American either b*tch, like my avatar Bill I am Australian.
More Australian than you'll ever be.
LEVI

United States

#99139 Jan 30, 2013
_0rion_ wrote:
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Clueless is idiots like you anti's twisting things around as usual, saying we think it costs nothing at all is just stupid, but you're good at stupid.
Clueless is idiots like you anti's thinking that it's cheaper to get meat from the supermarket, more stupid.
Do the sums idiot, 100 kg's x $30 per kg supermarket price =$3000
100 kg's x self killed, one bullet 80 cents, a bit of time to process & store, free.
A bit more time to cleanup, free.
Chemicals used to clean the processing point,$80 per year (tax deductable) so essentially free.
Storage, freezer runs anyway so no extra cost.
Product = beautiful, tender, tasty meat.
Not like the stringy, gristly, bland garbage sold at the supermarket that idiots like you think is good.
I'm not American either b*tch, like my avatar Bill I am Australian.
More Australian than you'll ever be.
LMAO, calm down orion, that woman didnt believe it herself when she posted it. Maybe next time I'll hunt with my bow, wonder how much she'll say that cost me? LOL
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#99140 Jan 30, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be related to Dr Frued, where the truth is simply an inconvenience, you dumb wank....

The truth ?
Lol. You wouldn't know the truth if it had teeth and bit you on your ugly butt, down under sheep shagger.

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#99141 Jan 30, 2013
LEVI wrote:
<quoted text> LMAO, calm down orion, that woman didnt believe it herself when she posted it. Maybe next time I'll hunt with my bow, wonder how much she'll say that cost me? LOL
Lol, don't be surprised if she does believe it.
Few roos short in the top paddock the Ahomaniac is :)
LEVI

United States

#99142 Jan 30, 2013
_0rion_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol, don't be surprised if she does believe it.
Few roos short in the top paddock the Ahomaniac is :)
You know, when I first came to the australian forum and read a few of her post I thought this woman was pretty intelligent. But honestly, the more I read that she post the more ignorant she appears. I guess some people just dont know when their ahead and when to shut up? lol

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#99143 Jan 30, 2013
LEVI wrote:
<quoted text>You know, when I first came to the australian forum and read a few of her post I thought this woman was pretty intelligent. But honestly, the more I read that she post the more ignorant she appears. I guess some people just dont know when their ahead and when to shut up? lol
My guess is she copied & pasted from someone else the intelligent stuff you read :)
Occasionally she does make a good point, but then proceeds to throw in that much abuse along with it the point gets lost.
LEVI

United States

#99144 Jan 30, 2013
_0rion_ wrote:
<quoted text>
My guess is she copied & pasted from someone else the intelligent stuff you read :)
Occasionally she does make a good point, but then proceeds to throw in that much abuse along with it the point gets lost.
lol, exactly.

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