It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103299 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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LEVI

United States

#99134 Jan 30, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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It is a worldwide Phenomena in high income countries Levi.
Free Markets are not self correcting.
Your Govt is one of the biggest.
Now if you want to adopt Asian values and standard of living go ahead.
Put the Republicans in 100%. No other party.
Then you will be the same as China.
No thank you. I have nothing to benifit asia, and asia has nothing to benifit me. Personally, I wish the usofa would becme a isolationalist country. I wish we would pull all our troops, bases, men and women out of every country, and just let the world go to hell. Lets see how long it would be b4 a country is invaded by a hostile dictatorship or whatever, then lets see how quick that invaded country yells for yankee help. Its a shame a person like yourself sees nothing wrong with a government thats shoots a young girl for wanting an education, kills women for the simpilist things, outlaws music of all things, even kite flying. Its a shame you think people like saddam hussein is okay, that col kadaffi is okay. Yet what did thailand do to stop, or even help to stop, such evil men. Thailand did nothing, except badmouth america. Maybe thats bc thailand has/had some similarities with those men and countries, maybe, just maybe, they see a kinship?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99135 Jan 30, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are going to post stats try not to make an idiot out of yourself , sheep shagger.
You must be related to Dr Frued, where the truth is simply an inconvenience, you dumb wank....
GoGoBar

Chiang Mai, Thailand

#99136 Jan 30, 2013
LEVI wrote:
<quoted text> No thank you. I have nothing to benifit asia, and asia has nothing to benifit me. Personally, I wish the usofa would becme a isolationalist country. I wish we would pull all our troops, bases, men and women out of every country, and just let the world go to hell. Lets see how long it would be b4 a country is invaded by a hostile dictatorship or whatever, then lets see how quick that invaded country yells for yankee help. Its a shame a person like yourself sees nothing wrong with a government thats shoots a young girl for wanting an education, kills women for the simpilist things, outlaws music of all things, even kite flying. Its a shame you think people like saddam hussein is okay, that col kadaffi is okay. Yet what did thailand do to stop, or even help to stop, such evil men. Thailand did nothing, except badmouth america. Maybe thats bc thailand has/had some similarities with those men and countries, maybe, just maybe, they see a kinship?
Do it. Pull out. Oh, Obahma is trying to do that.
Isolationist! Just beg other countries to place economic trade sanctions on the USA. Let them trade oil in any currency they want.
Stop supporting the Tyrants in the Arabian Gulf. Your allies are stoning, beheading and suppressing their people with vigour. Go ahead.

You have fine values but they just dont fit in a global world because the interests of the USA are the interests of it's corporations, not it's people. Just the same as the rest of the world.
GoGoBar

Chiang Mai, Thailand

#99137 Jan 30, 2013
A once Law Abiding gun owner....Snapped!

Neighbors describe Jimmy Lee Dykes, the 65-year-old Vietnam war veteran holding a 6-year-old child hostage in a bunker he constructed underneath his house, as a paranoid and aggressive survivalist who repeatedly threatened his neighbors with firearms.

Tim Byrd, an investigator with the Dale County Sheriff’s office described Dykes to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Hatewatch blog as a “survivalist” with “anti-America” views and ties to anti-government extremist.

“His friends and his neighbors stated that he did not trust the government, that he was a Vietnam vet, and that he had PTSD,” Byrd said.“He was standoffish, didn’t socialize or have any contact with anybody. He was a survivalist type.”

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#99138 Jan 30, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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clueless...clueless is you idiot gun owners thinking it cost you nothing to kill and butcher, pack store and clean up after your kill.....I have been hunting and know exactly what men are like, as well as the cost involved and wasted time and that includes open sea fishing....
Go to the shops and buy the stuff, and stop pandering to the sick side of your personality.....go get yourself a therapist like the rest of you dumb yanks.
Clueless is idiots like you anti's twisting things around as usual, saying we think it costs nothing at all is just stupid, but you're good at stupid.
Clueless is idiots like you anti's thinking that it's cheaper to get meat from the supermarket, more stupid.

Do the sums idiot, 100 kg's x $30 per kg supermarket price =$3000
100 kg's x self killed, one bullet 80 cents, a bit of time to process & store, free.
A bit more time to cleanup, free.
Chemicals used to clean the processing point,$80 per year (tax deductable) so essentially free.
Storage, freezer runs anyway so no extra cost.

Product = beautiful, tender, tasty meat.
Not like the stringy, gristly, bland garbage sold at the supermarket that idiots like you think is good.

I'm not American either b*tch, like my avatar Bill I am Australian.
More Australian than you'll ever be.
LEVI

United States

#99139 Jan 30, 2013
_0rion_ wrote:
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Clueless is idiots like you anti's twisting things around as usual, saying we think it costs nothing at all is just stupid, but you're good at stupid.
Clueless is idiots like you anti's thinking that it's cheaper to get meat from the supermarket, more stupid.
Do the sums idiot, 100 kg's x $30 per kg supermarket price =$3000
100 kg's x self killed, one bullet 80 cents, a bit of time to process & store, free.
A bit more time to cleanup, free.
Chemicals used to clean the processing point,$80 per year (tax deductable) so essentially free.
Storage, freezer runs anyway so no extra cost.
Product = beautiful, tender, tasty meat.
Not like the stringy, gristly, bland garbage sold at the supermarket that idiots like you think is good.
I'm not American either b*tch, like my avatar Bill I am Australian.
More Australian than you'll ever be.
LMAO, calm down orion, that woman didnt believe it herself when she posted it. Maybe next time I'll hunt with my bow, wonder how much she'll say that cost me? LOL
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#99140 Jan 30, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be related to Dr Frued, where the truth is simply an inconvenience, you dumb wank....

The truth ?
Lol. You wouldn't know the truth if it had teeth and bit you on your ugly butt, down under sheep shagger.

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#99141 Jan 30, 2013
LEVI wrote:
<quoted text> LMAO, calm down orion, that woman didnt believe it herself when she posted it. Maybe next time I'll hunt with my bow, wonder how much she'll say that cost me? LOL
Lol, don't be surprised if she does believe it.
Few roos short in the top paddock the Ahomaniac is :)
LEVI

United States

#99142 Jan 30, 2013
_0rion_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol, don't be surprised if she does believe it.
Few roos short in the top paddock the Ahomaniac is :)
You know, when I first came to the australian forum and read a few of her post I thought this woman was pretty intelligent. But honestly, the more I read that she post the more ignorant she appears. I guess some people just dont know when their ahead and when to shut up? lol

“Topix is lowlife scum with no”

Since: Jun 12

respect for anyone...

#99143 Jan 30, 2013
LEVI wrote:
<quoted text>You know, when I first came to the australian forum and read a few of her post I thought this woman was pretty intelligent. But honestly, the more I read that she post the more ignorant she appears. I guess some people just dont know when their ahead and when to shut up? lol
My guess is she copied & pasted from someone else the intelligent stuff you read :)
Occasionally she does make a good point, but then proceeds to throw in that much abuse along with it the point gets lost.
LEVI

United States

#99144 Jan 30, 2013
_0rion_ wrote:
<quoted text>
My guess is she copied & pasted from someone else the intelligent stuff you read :)
Occasionally she does make a good point, but then proceeds to throw in that much abuse along with it the point gets lost.
lol, exactly.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99146 Jan 30, 2013
_0rion_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Clueless is idiots like you anti's twisting things around as usual, saying we think it costs nothing at all is just stupid, but you're good at stupid.
Clueless is idiots like you anti's thinking that it's cheaper to get meat from the supermarket, more stupid.
Do the sums idiot, 100 kg's x $30 per kg supermarket price =$3000
100 kg's x self killed, one bullet 80 cents, a bit of time to process & store, free.
A bit more time to cleanup, free.
Chemicals used to clean the processing point,$80 per year (tax deductable) so essentially free.
Storage, freezer runs anyway so no extra cost.
Product = beautiful, tender, tasty meat.
Not like the stringy, gristly, bland garbage sold at the supermarket that idiots like you think is good.
I'm not American either b*tch, like my avatar Bill I am Australian.
More Australian than you'll ever be.
In regards to your 80cents for a bullet...that is presuming you get it on the first shot?
In regards to what fires that bullet "a gun" that costs money....no matter who bought it?
In regards to your freezer unless you keep it stocked 24/7 you are wasting money....and electricity cost money.....
in regards to butchering your meat you need the right tools, again money.
In regards to your time I have no doubt it is worth nothing but the truth is time is money everyone's time....
In regards to fuel, the vehicle required to go offroad so usually a four wheel drive...that costs money and I will be I don't pay half the ammount you do for fuel or vehicle maintenance, or for that matters tyres.
In regards to getting meat from the supermarket that is good, I have no complaints, and it doesn't cost me anywhere near 30bucks a kilo....and I don't get all covered in blood and nor does my little cruz, hohum...
In regards to you being an Aussie Bill......bull....shit! anyone can put up a pic of a roo or our flag Pacha and call themselves an Aussie on this forum...being credible is something else!

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99147 Jan 30, 2013
rabbit wrote:
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You dont even live in the USA.... get a life loser !!!
.
Nor do you obviously???

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99148 Jan 30, 2013
Levi wrote:
<quoted text> I guess thats an insult, espically since you posted it, I dont know what a sookie is. But I still know a mean ole lady when I see or hear one. There use to be one just like you liveing up the road from me, when she found herself a man to share her life with however, she changed, and now is the most kindest, most pleasant woman to be around, always happy, always laughing.
Oh god, yes, yes,..because a woman isn't complete unless she has a man to cook and clean for and bear his kids.....that's a mans fantasy moron not a womans...you are living in the wrong century, and you sound it.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99149 Jan 30, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are going to post stats try not to make an idiot out of yourself , sheep shagger.
Which stats would that be...care to enlighten or do you just like running off at the mouth like a yank....

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99150 Jan 30, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are going to post stats try not to make an idiot out of yourself , sheep shagger.
Here educated yourself wank....

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...

LEVI

United States

#99151 Jan 30, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh god, yes, yes,..because a woman isn't complete unless she has a man to cook and clean for and bear his kids.....that's a mans fantasy moron not a womans...you are living in the wrong century, and you sound it.
I just stated facts about the woman down the road who use to stay ill, mad, and what. But, I guess you knew all about her, since you seem to think you know everything.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#99152 Jan 30, 2013
LEVI wrote:
<quoted text>You know, when I first came to the australian forum and read a few of her post I thought this woman was pretty intelligent. But honestly, the more I read that she post the more ignorant she appears. I guess some people just dont know when their ahead and when to shut up? lol
Intelligent and witty....you were right...don't listent to Orion he is a gun lover...oops so are you.....carry on you need each other to battle this forum....cause even together you are both as weak as piss for yanks.
LEVI

United States

#99153 Jan 30, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Intelligent and witty....you were right...don't listent to Orion he is a gun lover...oops so are you.....carry on you need each other to battle this forum....cause even together you are both as weak as piss for yanks.
You drink piss often do you?
American Lady

Danville, KY

#99155 Jan 30, 2013
George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell.

While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for.

The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.

Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes.
When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.

Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes.
When she is finished the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.

Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours.

When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.

When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush got to call the USA so cheaply.

The devil smiles and replies, " Since Obama took over , the country has gone to hell, so it's a local call."

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