It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103340 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Spocko

Oakland, CA

#98880 Jan 28, 2013
Rico from East Los II wrote:
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Bingo!!!
If all the current gun control debate was about finding ways to prevent mentally ill people from access to firearms then there would not be some much drama. Unfortunately the left is using this issue to simply restrict guns from competent Americans.
Hogwash! According to you ignorant gun-a-holics all it takes is to strap on a gun and voila - you are now an invincible self-defense expert! The fact is, genuine experts in self-defense and marksmen ship train for many years and keep on training to maintain their expertise. Your brainless argument is nothing more than stupid NRA rhetoric and lies!
levi

United States

#98881 Jan 28, 2013
Rico from East Los II wrote:
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Yea, that d*uchebag needs to go back to Britain. He comes here with his Government knows best mentality... well he can stay in Britain if he loves those gun policies so much.
Meanwhile, Im sure he has armed protection nearby, most celebs do. But you know how it is, he's spppecial! LOL
levi

United States

#98882 Jan 28, 2013
Its the same way with the politicans wanting to take away our guns, meanwhile they are heavyly protected by armed guards. I say, line em all up against a wall, catch my drift. They are traitors to the constitution, dirt bags. Remember, an unarmed country is easier to control and conqoure.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#98883 Jan 28, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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Hogwash! According to you ignorant gun-a-holics all it takes is to strap on a gun and voila - you are now an invincible self-defense expert! The fact is, genuine experts in self-defense and marksmen ship train for many years and keep on training to maintain their expertise. Your brainless argument is nothing more than stupid NRA rhetoric and lies!


Race car drivers spend many years perfecting their dangerous trade yet we still allow little old ladies to drive Corvettes or Humvees if they want to and we allow people that have never driven on ice or snow to drive to any state that want to in the middle of the winter through a blizzard or freezing rain.
Now I may not be an invincible self defense expert but then is the perp that wants to do me harm an vincible self defense expert or perhaps a druggie that needs a fix and his hands are shaking? Who do you think has spent more time at the range practicing, the perp or me?
forsale

Australia

#98884 Jan 28, 2013
levi wrote:
Guns------today, tomorrow, forever!
LOL! yeah, that's the boy; just one question; why on earth would the muslims worry about defeating the yankees, when they are doing a great job in killing each other with guns and with drugs.
lol! stupid yankees are self destructing and happy to do so.
America is gettng destroyed; not by muslims, not by Chinese, not by Russians but from the inside by their enemy within.
Keep it boys lol! keep your little toys; today, tomorrow and until your neighbour decides to go on a shooting rampage; lol!!
levi

United States

#98886 Jan 28, 2013
forsale wrote:
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LOL! yeah, that's the boy; just one question; why on earth would the muslims worry about defeating the yankees, when they are doing a great job in killing each other with guns and with drugs.
lol! stupid yankees are self destructing and happy to do so.
America is gettng destroyed; not by muslims, not by Chinese, not by Russians but from the inside by their enemy within.
Keep it boys lol! keep your little toys; today, tomorrow and until your neighbour decides to go on a shooting rampage; lol!!
I guess you country has no crime, no drugs, no killings? And by the way, I intend to keep my littley toys, today, tomorrow, and forever; and theres nothing you bleeding heart liberals can do about it. Yawn.
levi

United States

#98887 Jan 28, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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Race car drivers spend many years perfecting their dangerous trade yet we still allow little old ladies to drive Corvettes or Humvees if they want to and we allow people that have never driven on ice or snow to drive to any state that want to in the middle of the winter through a blizzard or freezing rain.
Now I may not be an invincible self defense expert but then is the perp that wants to do me harm an vincible self defense expert or perhaps a druggie that needs a fix and his hands are shaking? Who do you think has spent more time at the range practicing, the perp or me?
Amen to that! The time will come when some of these people on here will be face to face with someone wanting to do them bodily harm, and admit it or not, they would be thinking,' if only I had a gun'. Too late. LOL
levi

United States

#98888 Jan 28, 2013
Also, I'd bet, half these anti gun freaks have never shot or even held a gun in their hands b4.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#98889 Jan 28, 2013
levi wrote:
Also, I'd bet, half these anti gun freaks have never shot or even held a gun in their hands b4.
Well, certainly The President is NOT an "anti-gun" anything, but I was interested to read this:

Has Obama himself ever fired a gun?
"Yes," the president says, "in fact, up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time."

http://www.myabc5.com/story/20715948/obama-gu...

"The president says it's understandable that people are protective of their family traditions when it comes to hunting."

WASHINGTON (AP)- President Barack Obama says gun-control advocates should be better listeners in the debate over firearms in America.

Sounds very reasonable and sensible to me.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#98890 Jan 28, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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Race car drivers spend many years perfecting their dangerous trade yet we still allow little old ladies to drive Corvettes or Humvees if they want to and we allow people that have never driven on ice or snow to drive to any state that want to in the middle of the winter through a blizzard or freezing rain.
Now I may not be an invincible self defense expert but then is the perp that wants to do me harm an vincible self defense expert or perhaps a druggie that needs a fix and his hands are shaking? Who do you think has spent more time at the range practicing, the perp or me?
Good for you and your really, really bad analogy, but I'm not talking about you, you are at best one percent of all the friggen fools totting guns without a clue!!!
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#98891 Jan 28, 2013
levi wrote:
Also, I'd bet, half these anti gun freaks have never shot or even held a gun in their hands b4.
Another gun-toting fool?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#98892 Jan 28, 2013
levi wrote:
<quoted text> Amen to that! The time will come when some of these people on here will be face to face with someone wanting to do them bodily harm, and admit it or not, they would be thinking,' if only I had a gun'. Too late. LOL
No they would be more likely thinking what kind of animals are allowed to give birth in most cases to male children that grow up and commit the lions share of the crimes against huanity. If only their was a criteria by where you could vet the father and history of shitty genes....
levi

United States

#98893 Jan 28, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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Another gun-toting fool?
Another socialist bleeding heart liberal. But of course its from california. Fact about california, when god created the earth he gave it one last good shake, and everything and everyone loose rolled into california.
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98895 Jan 28, 2013
levi wrote:
<quoted text> Meanwhile, Im sure he has armed protection nearby, most celebs do. But you know how it is, he's spppecial! LOL
If a person disagrees with a gun fanatic, does that automatically mean they need protection?

That tells you what sort of people they are. Scary.

I like Piers.
levi

United States

#98896 Jan 28, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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No they would be more likely thinking what kind of animals are allowed to give birth in most cases to male children that grow up and commit the lions share of the crimes against huanity. If only their was a criteria by where you could vet the father and history of shitty genes....
The lion hunts the rabbit, survival of the fittist. I intend to be no rabbit.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#98897 Jan 28, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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No they would be more likely thinking what kind of animals are allowed to give birth in most cases to male children that grow up and commit the lions share of the crimes against huanity. If only their was a criteria by where you could vet the father and history of shitty genes....
Be glad they don't......
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98898 Jan 28, 2013
levi wrote:
<quoted text> I guess you country has no crime, no drugs, no killings? And by the way, I intend to keep my littley toys, today, tomorrow, and forever; and theres nothing you bleeding heart liberals can do about it. Yawn.
We'll see about that. Yawn.

If the cops showed up at your house, you would break a leg getting your weapons together to hand over to them. I can visualize it.

You must be very young if you call them your little toys.

Yawn.

Don't worry, you'll grow up and see the light. We all do.
levi

United States

#98899 Jan 28, 2013
Guppy wrote:
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If a person disagrees with a gun fanatic, does that automatically mean they need protection?
That tells you what sort of people they are. Scary.
I like Piers.
I dont. But to each their own. Meanwhile, he, piers, downs america; while makeing those good ole american greens, you know, the ones with the pic of dead presidents on them. Good going piers!

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#98900 Jan 28, 2013
jase wrote:
Firearms are a necessity hunting is a necessity.
No it is not....it's called a supermarket....if we didn't have them that would be a necesity, but we farm our animals so you DON'T have to go and kill and hunt them yourselves...it is just your individual want to remain the hunter, when there is absolutely no need to hunt.Do you still churn your own butter or bake your own bread or build a fire by rubbing together two sticks...I don't think so!
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98901 Jan 28, 2013
levi wrote:
<quoted text>I dont. But to each their own. Meanwhile, he, piers, downs america; while makeing those good ole american greens, you know, the ones with the pic of dead presidents on them. Good going piers!
Piers is too classy to down America.

How does he? If this has something to do with guns - he is justified.

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