It's the Guns, Stupid

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“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Since: Jan 12

Where The Wild Things Grow

#98614 Jan 25, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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Do you think that boy could have killed that many people or would have bothered, if he hadn't had access to guns?...Therefore wouldn't the most logical course of action be to remove that threat so the teachers and kids can live in a gun free enviroment without detectors guards or guns, wouldn't you want them to have what all Aussie kids take for granted, and they (yankee kids and teachers) should have a right to expect to have a greater quality and longer lifespan?
Of course it would be better if those like him did not have access to guns - but I am talking about the reality of the present situation - guns are widespread in the US - the American people are not going to relinquish their second amendment rights - those who are determined to obtain guns will obtain them in that climate - so - provide armed guards at the schools.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#98615 Jan 25, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
Aggrevated Assault with Firearm
146,000 per year.
How much does that cost the taxpayer?
Must be about a break even deal with the 2,000,000+ crimes STOPPED with a firearm by private gun owners. I can live with that. Of course I'm sure you could live with the criminals having all the advantages. No surprises here.
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98616 Jan 25, 2013
Passed by a gun store today. There were no lines to get in.

Redneck territory.
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98617 Jan 25, 2013
Full moon tonight.

Guess the gun fanatics will be itching to shoot someone.
Researcher

Killeen, TX

#98618 Jan 25, 2013
sairla wrote:
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Of course it would be better if those like him did not have access to guns - but I am talking about the reality of the present situation - guns are widespread in the US - the American people are not going to relinquish their second amendment rights - those who are determined to obtain guns will obtain them in that climate - so - provide armed guards at the schools.
From a police academy trainer, 3rd generation cop, now working for a law-enforcement triaining company that has trained tens of thousands of police officers nationwide:

"Cops aren't trained well enough, so what do you think they're going to do with teachers? It's not enough to just carry a gun."

TIME, Jan. 28, 2013, pp. 40-41
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98619 Jan 25, 2013
Sometimes it's good to read a comment more than once.

Trying very hard to find something interesting.

It's not working.
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98620 Jan 25, 2013
Don't worry about Feinstein. She's fine.
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98621 Jan 25, 2013
Passed by a school today. The sign out front said something about new security measures go into effect today.

Damn Guns. They spoil everything.
Frank

Oakland, CA

#98622 Jan 25, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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Don't mess with the older folks with a gun. Especially wheelchair bound people.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/25/ro...
Dr. Strangelove?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#98623 Jan 25, 2013
tfreddy42 wrote:
<quoted text>
dummy the guns are not the problem it is the person behind the guns that is the problem so your comment is mute again
Neither of them are the problem. The problem is the man who invented the first the gun or the person who discovered iron or the person who discovered gun powder or the teaching of science is the problem or men are the problem...get my point?...Guns ARE the problem, and they are the problem because without them we wouldn't have any person shot.... Now in order to stop the shootings you have to get rid of guns or men, which one of those seems more likely, eh Einstein?
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98624 Jan 25, 2013
Everyone seems to get very excited when they read about stabbings etc.

They are happy that a gun wasn't used.

Makes them feel better. Something to brag about.

Sigh.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#98625 Jan 25, 2013
look wrote:
<quoted text>You'd need a gun if the other man had one and was willing to use it, I don't give a damn how bad you think you are...If I was the one with a gun and a man threatened me in any way, if he was to big for me to whip his ass then I'd shoot him in self defense. An un-armed man is an idiot if he tried out a man with a gun, eonough said. So try and take somebody on with their weapon of choice, and you'll end up in the FUCKIN' ER, or 6ft. under, either way your a FUCKIN' IDIOT...Haven't you heard, "don't bring a knife to a gun fight", what would you do if a man had a 45. or a shotgun??? What COULD you do with your bare hands if the man had a gun??? Your talking SHIT you can't back-up, your a moron, and you'll end up dead if you really are that STUPID, I don't give a damn how bad you THINK you are, it's easy to talk shit over the PC, but just try out somebody with a gun...
So cowards have guns....cowards and sadists...Who knew?

Since: Jan 12

Where The Wild Things Grow

#98626 Jan 25, 2013
Researcher wrote:
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From a police academy trainer, 3rd generation cop, now working for a law-enforcement triaining company that has trained tens of thousands of police officers nationwide:
"Cops aren't trained well enough, so what do you think they're going to do with teachers? It's not enough to just carry a gun."
TIME, Jan. 28, 2013, pp. 40-41
I don't mean teachers - teachers are not trained for that, I refer to professionally trained guards - those with the training, skills and confidence required in an emergency situation.
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98627 Jan 25, 2013
Old people and guns.

That cracked me up.

Can you imagine?

Not really........
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98628 Jan 25, 2013
What's going on with Hillary? Now it's double vision. What next?

She's too old to work and needs to retire to the Hamptons with Bill.

Two old geezers.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#98629 Jan 25, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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Neither of them are the problem. The problem is the man who invented the first the gun or the person who discovered iron or the person who discovered gun powder or the teaching of science is the problem or men are the problem...get my point?...Guns ARE the problem, and they are the problem because without them we wouldn't have any person shot.... Now in order to stop the shootings you have to get rid of guns or men, which one of those seems more likely, eh Einstein?
Your point is that we should return to the Stone Age and then we can use rocks and stones to kill our food and each other. Do I read you right?
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#98630 Jan 25, 2013
Thank god for CSX.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#98631 Jan 25, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
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Neither of them are the problem. The problem is the man who invented the first the gun or the person who discovered iron or the person who discovered gun powder or the teaching of science is the problem or men are the problem...get my point?...Guns ARE the problem, and they are the problem because without them we wouldn't have any person shot.... Now in order to stop the shootings you have to get rid of guns or men, which one of those seems more likely, eh Einstein?
You can go away now. You've proven you're not that bright...... Hint: YOU'RE not that smart. Move along,this is beyond you...... Maybe you should go discuss Gay marriage..... Your boyfriend is waiting. Just say I do.....
no welfare for the fat

Villahermosa, Mexico

#98632 Jan 25, 2013
Dont come here and argue with these idiots.
If you would only stop coming here people like Ahomona would have nobody to argue with and she would go away and eat more pies until she exploded.

All you are doing is providing a fat welfare addicted subhuman with somebody to talk to.

She has nobody that would listen to her in real life, no husband, nobodly likes her so she comes here for some interaction, so stop coming here and you can lance the big boil on topix's butt that is ahomona.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#98633 Jan 25, 2013
HollybytheSea wrote:
<quoted text>Your point is that we should return to the Stone Age and then we can use rocks and stones to kill our food and each other. Do I read you right?
Yeah, when was the last time most of you went out foraging in the for food anywhere but the local supermart?
And Killing is wrong..so I wouldn't advocate you do that with or without a gun.

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