It's the Guns, Stupid

Apr 20, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Truthdig

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Andrea Yates, in one of the most heartrending crimes in modern history, drowned all five of her children – aged 7 years down to 6 months – in a bathtub. Insisting inner voices commanded her to kill her children, she had become increasingly psychotic over the course of several years. At her 2006 murder re-trial (after a 2002 guilty verdict was overturned on appeal), Yates’ longtime friend Debbie Holmes testified:“She asked me if I thought Satan could read her mind and if I believed in demon possession.” And Dr. George Ringholz, after evaluating Yates for two days, recounted an experience she had after the birth of her first child:“What she described was feeling a presence … Satan … telling her to take a knife and stab her son Noah,” Ringholz said, adding that Yates’ delusion at the time of the bathtub murders was not only that she had to kill her children to save them, but that Satan had entered her and that she had to be executed in order to kill Satan.Yates had been taking the antidepressant Effexor. I

n November 2005, more than four years after Yates drowned her children, Effexor manufacturer Wyeth Pharmaceuticals quietly added “homicidal ideation” to the drug’s list of “rare adverse events.” The Medical Accountability Network, a private nonprofit focused on medical ethics issues, publicly criticized Wyeth, saying Effexor’s “homicidal ideation” risk wasn’t well-publicized and that Wyeth failed to send letters to doctors or issue warning labels announcing the change.And what exactly does “rare” mean in the phrase “rare adverse events”? The FDA defines it as occurring in less than one in 1,000 people. But since that same year 19.2 million prescriptions for Effexor were filled in the U.S., statistically that means thousands of Americans might experience “homicidal ideation”– murderous thoughts – as a result of taking just this one brand of antidepressant drug.Effexor is Wyeth’s best-selling drug, by the way, which in one recent year brought in over $3 billion in sales, accounting for almost a fifth of the company’s annual revenues.
Which topic are you on now, is it still guns?.... I am sure that murder and deaths can be attributed to many things...but how many women drown five of her kids in the bath as opposed to those killed or murdered by guns you dolt? Google that and get back to me....
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That's it, the situation in America is different to ours - students have the right to protection so if that means armed guards, then that is the way it is.
Students DO NOT have the 'right' to 'armed protection.'
In fact, NOBODY has the 'right' to armed protection, inasmuch as NO SUCH RIGHT exists.
Certainly, EVERYONE has THE RIGHT to protect themselves, but NOBODY has THE RIGHT to demand that any other person provide protection for them.
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Yes, as is the rest of the population, are you making a point here or just being an jackass
It's YOURSELF who's being the JACKARSE!
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Which topic are you on now, is it still guns?.... I am sure that murder and deaths can be attributed to many things...but how many women drown five of her kids in the bath as opposed to those killed or murdered by guns you dolt? Google that and get back to me....
"Which topic are you on now, is it still guns?"
No, the topic is YOUR continued obstinate denial of the truth: Guns are NOT the cause of anything.

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Dr Freud wrote:
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"Which topic are you on now, is it still guns?"
No, the topic is YOUR continued obstinate denial of the truth: Guns are NOT the cause of anything.
Oh I know....it is not the guns it is the people or the drugs they take....but never the easy access to guns...nooooooo.

How can a person kill another person via a bullet, lessen it has come from a gun...tell me that! Guns do kill people and animals etc....there is no need for them or the second ammendment is there!

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PS for Fraud!.....Should read: "or else" there is no need for them or the second ammendment, is there!
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The Sherrif on the Lone Star Campus Argument

Idiocy. Stupidity," Garcia told reporters. "We had individuals who did not care about putting other people in harm's way. It was a ridiculous, adolescent confrontation that occurred. But if we can make an example out of anyone, we will."

Pressed for details, Garcia added, "We're still clearing that up. But a confrontation occurred, and somebody thought, in their peanut-sized brain, that maybe a firearm on a campus would be the way to settle it."

Peanut Sized Brain! LOL
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Idiocy. Stupidity," Garcia told reporters. "We had individuals who did not care about putting other people in harm's way. It was a ridiculous, adolescent confrontation that occurred. But if we can make an example out of anyone, we will."

Pressed for details, Garcia added, "We're still clearing that up. But a confrontation occurred, and somebody thought, in their peanut-sized brain, that maybe a firearm on a campus would be the way to settle it."

Peanut Sized Brain said the Sherrif.

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Dr Freud wrote:
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Students DO NOT have the 'right' to 'armed protection.'
In fact, NOBODY has the 'right' to armed protection, inasmuch as NO SUCH RIGHT exists.
Certainly, EVERYONE has THE RIGHT to protect themselves, but NOBODY has THE RIGHT to demand that any other person provide protection for them.
Yes,'everyone has the right to protect themselves'- young children however, are not capable of protecting themselves in many instances - which is why there are laws in place to provide that protection, from any of a multitude of potential ills. Do you not think that adults have a responsibility to protect children and that children have a right to be protected?
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Dr Freud wrote:
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Students DO NOT have the 'right' to 'armed protection.'
In fact, NOBODY has the 'right' to armed protection, inasmuch as NO SUCH RIGHT exists.
Certainly, EVERYONE has THE RIGHT to protect themselves, but NOBODY has THE RIGHT to demand that any other person provide protection for them.
How does that work put for younger students in High Schools and Elementary Schools?
Is Wayne LaPierre wrong?
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And if there was no easy access to guns in their violent state....they would just punch their locker like normal teens.
And if there was no easy access to lockers they could bang their heads into the wall.If there was no easy access to walls they could smash into other students. Tired of being the recipients of wounds caused by school created druggies, the nerds would invent assault style weapons to defend themselves against the psychotic smashers.
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It's YOURSELF who's being the JACKARSE!
http://www.ssristories.com/index.php...
Looks about as legit as a porno website
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you have no right to be protected
DO NOT EVER SHOW YOUR UGLY LUNATIC hide my ASS! FILTHY DISGUSTING IndoMauritian MalBarCACA IMPOSTOR caca bush pigkakalanget ki remplis ek la sauce cacactae noir pilon clopitty clopitty clop kakak liki cunnilungus MANGEUR SOUSOUDE sairla donne fesse liki fermal adore piss flap disgusting dirty little wonka PAKIPUKE MUG HERE AGAIN.

PACK YOU BAGS, GET LOST FUDDIHEAD IndoMauritian MalBARCACA IMPOSTOR YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE and neither is your band of supporting, condoning and loving TOPIX PAID TROLLS, SPAMMERS, REAL AGITATORS and ANARCHISTs. Julie chamberpot WORLD People (Iford Romford UK), Rupert PIN DICK FOOFTER The Maniac Psycho Anti-Muhammad Greensborough Insane Lunatic Nutcase a SPAMalot IDENTITY THIEF and IMPOSTOR Ringwood, Australia SPASTIC FUCKTURD PHAGGOTs

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Which topic are you on now, is it still guns?.... I am sure that murder and deaths can be attributed to many things...but how many women drown five of her kids in the bath as opposed to those killed or murdered by guns you dolt? Google that and get back to me....


Just showing the widespread dangers of the drugs that are given out in schools for many supposedly out of control students which apparently went over your head. Yet in retrospect,that isn't saying much when it is directed at one with his head in the sand. Dolt is such a pussy word and I picture sheeple yelling "dolt" at each other.
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Of course the idiocy of the self defence argument is this.
All of the people do not have guns. The poorest people cannot AFFORD firearms. Particularly the sophisticated but reliable rapid fire semi auto pistols with large capacity magazines.
As long as more sophisticated guns are sold there can be no equality in the self defence argument.

Gun manufacturers are perverting the 2nd ammendment for profit.
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More precisely your logic! So we just simply give up on the law as a concept and go for the anarchy thing!? When it comes to gun control you f-ing gun-a-holics either want a 100% effective law - or nothing, no exceptions! It's the mark of freaks and lunatics ...
He said Obama should post a gun free nation on the Whitehouse door. Wouldn't that encompass 100% removal of 300 million firearms? Like I said liberal logic is created in La la land by extreme left wing loonies such as the two of you and apparently you were too stupid to read the contents of the post that I was responding to.
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Osama Bin Laden, your terrorist ideal, would have been so proud of you for that propaganda promotion....encouraging more deaths to Americans...Allah is good!
Osama bin Laden was killed by Navy SEALS and many Navy SEALS are NRA members. Chris Kyle, lifetime NRA member is a former Navy SEAL and the most lethal sniper in American history On his Facebook page he has a picture of a combat soldier armed with a Gatling gun with the following words:
"Mayor Michael Bloomberg says 19 year olds aren't responsible enough to have a pistol or rifle. He obviously forgets who protects his rich pansy ass."
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Of course the idiocy of the self defence argument is this.
All of the people do not have guns. The poorest people cannot AFFORD firearms. Particularly the sophisticated but reliable rapid fire semi auto pistols with large capacity magazines.
As long as more sophisticated guns are sold there can be no equality in the self defence argument.
Gun manufacturers are perverting the 2nd ammendment for profit.
Yet it was Democrats that outlawed the cheap "Saturday Night Specials which were a godsend to the poor law abiding citizen who wanted to protect himself. Democrats have been perverting the 2nd Amendment from the moment they learned how to walk upright.
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