It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

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Since: Dec 10

Brisbane, Australia

#97945 Jan 22, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
BUT YOU admit to BEING A COMMUNIST, and WANTING to FORCE that polity upon EVERYONE ELSE!
Thank you for THAT admission!
I have just prove there is no such thing as communism enacted in the world and that it can't possible exist, so you go on a rant to try to say that I am one because you know how the ignorant yanks think...ie: ooh she is a communist, so she is like the Russians....are you children? as you clearly have the concentration span of gnats...

You have simply been proven wrong and instead of being an intelligent human being and apologising or admitting you erred you resort to ignorance and bigotry. The world has enough to deal with seeing that America has spread lies and fear about a political system that has never existed and will never exist as it is the most idealistic political system there is, fantastical to say the least...where everyone plays nicey and noone suffers starvation or oppression or homelessness, where there are no rich or poor etc.....a fantasy nothing more or less....Grow the feck up!

http://dbzer0.com/blog/misunderstanding-commu...
Frito Bandito

San Diego, CA

#97946 Jan 22, 2013
Retarded Asswipe wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you. How refreshing to hear from somebody who actuslly knows what the words mean!
Did they finally fish you out of the cesspool? How much weight did you gain in there?
Dr Freud

Bethnal Green, UK

#97947 Jan 22, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
A: And yet America
http://atruthsoldier.wordpress.com/2012/07/16...
Dr Freud

Bethnal Green, UK

#97948 Jan 22, 2013
Researcher wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you. How refreshing to hear from somebody who actuslly knows what the words mean!
Yes, and then YOU SHAT you pants!
Thank you for your stink ...
kkkk

Munich, Germany

#97949 Jan 22, 2013
5 Threats and conservation
6 Relationship with humans 6.1 As food
6.2 Military
6.3 Domestication
6.4 In religion
7 See also
8 References 8.1 Footnotes
9 External links
[edit] Taxonomy and systematics
See also: List of Columbidae
The Pteroclididae (sandgrouse) were formerly included in the order Columbiformes largely due to this drinking behavior ("The only other group, however, which shows the same behavior, the Pteroclididae, is placed near the doves just by this doubtlessly very old characteristic."[2]); more recently, it had been reported that they cannot drink by "sucking" or "pumping",[3] and they are now treated separately in the order Pteroclidiformes and are considered to be closer to the shorebirds.[4]
Columbidae are usually divided into five subfamilies, probably inaccurately. For example, the American ground and quail doves, which are usually placed in the Columbinae, seem to be two distinct subfamilies.[5] The order presented here follows Baptista et al.(1997) with some updates (Johnson & Clayton 2000, Johnson et al. 2001, Shapiro et al. 2002).
Osteology and DNA sequence analyses[6][7] indicate the Dodo and Rodrigues Solitaire are better considered as a subfamily Raphinae in the Columbidae pending availability of further information.
The arrangement of genera and naming of subfamilies is in some cases provisional, because analysis of different DNA sequences yield results that differ, often radically, in the placement of certain (mainly Indo-Australian) genera. This ambiguity, probably caused by long branch attraction, seems to confirm the first pigeons evolved in the Australasian region, and that the "Treronidae" and allied forms (crowned and pheasant pigeons, for example) represent the earliest radiation of the group.
As the Dodo and Rodrigues Solitaire are in all likelihood part of the Indo-Australian radiation that produced the three small subfamilies mentioned above with the fruit-doves and -pigeons (including the Nicobar Pigeon), they are here included as a subfamily Raphinae, pending better material evidence of their exact relationships.
Exacerbating these issues, columbids are not well represented in the fossil record. No truly primitive forms have been found to date. The genus Gerandia has been described from Early Miocene deposits of France, but while it was long believed[citation needed] to be a pigeon, it is more likely a sandgrouse.[citation needed] Fragmentary remains of a probably "ptilinopine" Early Miocene pigeon were found in the Bannockburn Formation of New Zealand and described as Rupephaps; "Columba" prattae from roughly contemporary deposits of Florida is nowadays tentatively separated in Arenicolumba, but its distinction from Patagioenas needs to be more firmly established. Apart from that, all other fossils belong to extant genera. For these, and for the considerable number of more recently extinct prehistoric species, see the respective genus accounts.
kkkk

Munich, Germany

#97950 Jan 22, 2013
Pigeons and doves exhibit considerable variations in size. The largest species is the Crowned Pigeon of New Guinea, which is nearly turkey-sized, at a weight of 2-4&#8201;kg (4.4-8.8 lb) The smallest is the New World Ground-Dove of the genus Columbina, which is the same size as a House Sparrow and weighs as little as 22&#8201;g.[8] With a total length of more than 50&#8201;cm (19 in) and weight of almost 1&#8201;kg (2 lb), the largest arboreal species is the Marquesan Imperial Pigeon, while the Dwarf Fruit Dove, which may measure as little as 13&#8201;cm (5.1 in), has a marginally smaller total length than any other species from this family.[8] Smaller species tend to be known as doves, while larger species as pigeons, but no taxonomic basis distinguishes between the two.[8]
Overall, the Columbidae tend to have short bills and legs, and small heads on large compact bodies. Their characteristic head bobbing was shown to be due to their natural desire to keep their vision constant in a 1978 experiment by B. J. Frost in which they were placed on treadmills - they did not bob their heads as their surroundings were constant.[9] The wings are large and have low wing loadings; pigeons have strong wing muscles (wing muscles comprise 31–44% of their body weight) and are amongst the strongest fliers of all birds. They are also highly maneuverable in flight.
The Common Indian Dove mostly seen in the Villages of India
The plumage of the family is variable. Granivorous species tend to have dull plumage, with a few exceptions, whereas the frugivorous species have brightly coloured plumage.[8] The Ptilinopus fruit doves are some of the brightest coloured pigeons, with the three endemic species of Fiji and the Indian Ocean Alectroenas being amongst the brightest coloured. Pigeons and doves may be sexually monochromatic or dichromatic. In addition to bright colours, pigeons may sport crests or other ornamentation.
Like some other birds, Columbidae have no gall bladders.[10] Some medieval naturalists concluded they have no bile (gall), which in the medieval theory of the four humours explained the allegedly sweet disposition of doves.[11] In fact, however, they do have gall (as Aristotle already realised), which is secreted directly into the gut.[12]
kkkk

Munich, Germany

#97952 Jan 22, 2013
Pigeons and doves are distributed everywhere on Earth, except for the driest areas of the Sahara Desert, Antarctica and its surrounding islands, and the high Arctic. They have colonised most of the world's oceanic islands, reaching eastern Polynesia and the Chatham Islands in the Pacific, Mauritius, the Seychelles and Réunion in the Indian Ocean, and the Azores in the Atlantic Ocean.

The family has adapted to most of the habitats available on the planet. The largest number of species is found in tropical forests and woodlands. These species may be arboreal, terrestrial or semiterrestrial. Various species also inhabit savannas, grasslands, deserts, temperate woodlands and forests, mangrove forests, and even the barren sands and gravels of atolls.


The Zebra Dove has been widely introduced around the world.
Some species have large natural ranges. The Eared Dove ranges across the entirety of South America from Colombia to Tierra Del Fuego, the Eurasian Collared Dove has a massive (if discontinuous) distribution from Britain across Europe, the Middle East, India, Pakistan and China, and the Laughing Dove across most of sub-Saharan Africa, as well as India, Pakistan and the Middle East. Other species have a tiny, restricted distribution; this is most common in island endemics. The Whistling Dove is endemic to the tiny Kadavu Island in Fiji, the Caroline Ground-dove is restricted to two islands, Truk and Pohnpei in the Caroline Islands, and the Grenada Dove is restricted to Grenada in the Caribbean. Some continental species also have tiny distributions; for example, the Black-banded Fruit Dove is restricted to a small area of the Arnhem Land of Australia, the Somali Pigeon is restricted to a tiny area of northern Somalia, and Moreno's Ground Dove is restricted to the area around Salta and Tucuman in northern Argentina.[8]

The largest range of any species is that of the Rock Dove. This species had a large natural distribution from Britain and Ireland to northern Africa, across Europe, Arabia, Central Asia, India, the Himalayas and up into China and Mongolia. The range of the species increased dramatically upon domestication, as the species went feral in cities around the world. The species is currently resident across most of North America, and has established itself in cities and urban areas in South America, sub-Saharan Africa, Southeast Asia, Japan, Australia and New Zealand. The species is not the only pigeon to have increased its range due to the actions of man; several other species have become established outside of their natural range after escaping captivity, and other species have increased their natural ranges due to habitat changes caused by human activity.[8]
kkkk

Munich, Germany

#97953 Jan 22, 2013
Threats and conservation
6 Relationship with humans 6.1 As food
6.2 Military
6.3 Domestication
6.4 In religion
7 See also
8 References 8.1 Footnotes
9 External links
[edit] Taxonomy and systematics
See also: List of Columbidae
The Pteroclididae (sandgrouse) were formerly included in the order Columbiformes largely due to this drinking behavior ("The only other group, however, which shows the same behavior, the Pteroclididae, is placed near the doves just by this doubtlessly very old characteristic."[2]); more recently, it had been reported that they cannot drink by "sucking" or "pumping",[3] and they are now treated separately in the order Pteroclidiformes and are considered to be closer to the shorebirds.[4]
Columbidae are usually divided into five subfamilies, probably inaccurately. For example, the American ground and quail doves, which are usually placed in the Columbinae, seem to be two distinct subfamilies.[5] The order presented here follows Baptista et al.(1997) with some updates (Johnson & Clayton 2000, Johnson et al. 2001, Shapiro et al. 2002).
Osteology and DNA sequence analyses[6][7] indicate the Dodo and Rodrigues Solitaire are better considered as a subfamily Raphinae in the Columbidae pending availability of further information.
The arrangement of genera and naming of subfamilies is in some cases provisional, because analysis of different DNA sequences yield results that differ, often radically, in the placement of certain (mainly Indo-Australian) genera. This ambiguity, probably caused by long branch attraction, seems to confirm the first pigeons evolved in the Australasian region, and that the "Treronidae" and allied forms (crowned and pheasant pigeons, for example) represent the earliest radiation of the group.
As the Dodo and Rodrigues Solitaire are in all likelihood part of the Indo-Australian radiation that produced the three small subfamilies mentioned above with the fruit-doves and -pigeons (including the Nicobar Pigeon), they are here included as a subfamily Raphinae, pending better material evidence of their exact relationships.
Exacerbating these issues, columbids are not well represented in the fossil record. No truly primitive forms have been found to date. The genus Gerandia has been described from Early Miocene deposits of France, but while it was long believed[citation needed] to be a pigeon, it is more likely a sandgrouse.[citation needed] Fragmentary remains of a probably "ptilinopine" Early Miocene pigeon were found in the Bannockburn Formation of New Zealand and described as Rupephaps; "Columba" prattae from roughly contemporary deposits of Florida is nowadays tentatively separated in Arenicolumba, but its distinction from Patagioenas needs to be more firmly established. Apart from that, all other fossils belong to extant genera. For these, and for the considerable number of more recently extinct prehistoric species, see the respective genus accounts.
Dr Freud

Bethnal Green, UK

#97954 Jan 22, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
I have just prove there is no such thing as communism enacted in the world and that it can't possible exist, so you go on a rant to try to say that I am one because you know how the ignorant yanks think...ie: ooh she is a communist, so she is like the Russians....are you children? as you clearly have the concentration span of gnats...
You have simply been proven wrong and instead of being an intelligent human being and apologising or admitting you erred you resort to ignorance and bigotry. The world has enough to deal with seeing that America has spread lies and fear about a political system that has never existed and will never exist as it is the most idealistic political system there is, fantastical to say the least...where everyone plays nicey and noone suffers starvation or oppression or homelessness, where there are no rich or poor etc.....a fantasy nothing more or less....Grow the feck up!
http://dbzer0.com/blog/misunderstanding-commu...
BUT YOU admit to BEING A COMMUNIST, and WANTING to FORCE that polity upon EVERYONE ELSE!
Thank you for THAT admission!
kkkk

Munich, Germany

#97955 Jan 22, 2013
While many species of pigeons and doves have benefited from human activities and have increased their ranges, many other species have declined in numbers and some have become threatened or even succumbed to extinction. Amongst the 10 species to have become extinct since 1600 (the conventional date for estimating modern extinctions) are two of the most famous extinct species, the Dodo and the Passenger Pigeon.

The Passenger Pigeon was exceptional for a number of reasons.It is the only pigeon species to have gone extinct in modern times that was not an island species. It was once the most numerous species of bird on Earth. Its former numbers are difficult to estimate, but one ornithologist, Alexander Wilson, estimated one flock he observed contained over two billion birds. The decline of the species was abrupt; in 1871, a breeding colony was estimated to ,contain over a hundred million birds, yet the last individual in the species was dead by 1914. Although habitat loss was a contributing factor, the species is thought to have been massively overhunted, being used as food for slaves and, later, the poor, in the United States throughout the 19th century.

The Dodo, and its extinction, was more typical of the extinctions of pigeons in the past. Like many species that colonize remote islands with few predators, it lost much of its predator avoidance behaviour, along with its ability to fly. The arrival of people, along with a suite of other introduced species, such as rats, pigs, and cats, quickly spelled the end for this species and all the other island forms that have become extinct.

Around 59 species of pigeons and doves are threatened with extinction today, about 19% of all species.[13] Most of these are tropical and live on islands. All of the species are threatened by introduced predators, habitat loss, and hunting, or a combination of these factors. In some cases, they may be extinct in the wild, as is the Socorro Dove of Socorro Island, Mexico, which was driven to extinction by habitat loss and introduced feral cats.[14] In some areas, a lack of knowledge means the true status of a species is unknown; the Negros Fruit Dove has not been seen since 1953, and may or may not be extinct, and the Polynesian Ground Dove is classified as critically endangered, as whether it survives or not on remote islands in the far west of the Pacific Ocean is unknown.

Various conservation techniques are employed to prevent these extinctions, including laws and regulations to control hunting pressure, the establishment of protected areas to prevent further habitat loss, the establishment of captive populations for reintroduction back into the wild (ex situ conservation), and the translocation of individuals to suitable habitats to create additional populations
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#97957 Jan 22, 2013
Empathica wrote:
<quoted text>
That wasn't the point.
The point was that indeed a mechanism was built into the Constitution to effect change.
It was.
The founders did expect dynamics as the country grew. Hence, Article V.
That's true. It was made to change with the times. My point was, although it could change, it left it to the states or the people to change, not a oppressive central government.

I believe there is the beginnings of a convention of the states in regard to Obamacare. I don't think there is enough to ratify anything at this point.

Since: Dec 10

Brisbane, Australia

#97958 Jan 22, 2013
Researcher wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you. How refreshing to hear from somebody who actuslly knows what the words mean!
No problem!:)
kkkk

Munich, Germany

#97959 Jan 22, 2013
Homer sold the family TV after seeing an ad for Dr. Monroe's Family Therapy Centre during a boxing match at Moe's. The ad claimed "family bliss or double your money back". The Simpson family was asked to complete a series of tests, including drawing your worst fear of which everyone but Homer drew Homer. Homer having drawn a random doodle. Unable to reach the Simpson Family, Monroe turned to the shock therapy method: the Simpsons were strapped in chairs with electrodes attached to them, and controls which they could use to shock other family members. However, it got out of hand and the whole town lost power.

Having had all his other patients leave, Monroe threw the Simpson Family out and paid them the money and told them to never tell anyone they were there. With their money doubled they purchased a new TV.[1]

Monroe is one of the doctors who studies Homer to figure out if he is the missing link after Homer was captured by Bigfoot hunters.[2]

Monroe hosts his own morning radio show on KBBL where he takes calls from listeners and tries to help them with their problems.[3]

Monroe was a panel guest on Smartline discussing TV violence.[4]

Supposed deathEdit
Monroe's Tombstone shown in "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily"
Added by Basel17

Although it was never specifically shown Dr. Monroe was considered to have died. He stopped appearing on TV and his business closed down. Many people in Springfield also believed him to be dead because several things had been named after him; Marvin Monroe Memorial Hospital,[5] and a school gym.[6] His grave is also shown,[7] and Troy McClure reported his death "over the past year".[8] However several years later he spontaneously appeared in at Marge's book signing, buying a copy of her book The Harpooned Heart. Marge, shocked to see him, exclaimed that she hadn't seen him in years. Dr. Monroe explained that he had "been very sick".[9]

Behind the LaughterEdit

Monroe was (initially) retired in Season 7 because voicing the character strained Harry Shearer's throat and, eventually, the voice became too annoying for Matt Groening.[10][11]

Since: Dec 10

Brisbane, Australia

#97960 Jan 22, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
BUT YOU admit to BEING A COMMUNIST, and WANTING to FORCE that polity upon EVERYONE ELSE!
Thank you for THAT admission!
Thankyou for proving just how little you know about political systems that you resort to propaganda.

Since: Dec 10

Brisbane, Australia

#97961 Jan 22, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
God your world must be one of total delusion and paranoia....seek help Doc, you clearly need it.

Since: Dec 10

Brisbane, Australia

#97962 Jan 22, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, and then YOU SHAT you pants!
Thank you for your stink ...
LOL.....at least I know there are two sane people on this site that understand what communism actually is and are not bullied by lies, fear and yankee paranoia and propaganda...it is America you should fear not the rest of the world it is they that inflict oppression on their people through lies....the rest of the world just laughs at your ignorance and red, white and blue rhetoric. You need to grow a brain doc....
kkkk

Russia

#97963 Jan 22, 2013
When Kent was demoted to a Weatherman and eventually fired, Arnie briefly became the new head anchor. He briefly took some joy in usurping Kent Brockman as News Anchorman by drawing a "Kent Stinks" graffiti on the Weather Map while Kent was broadcasting the weather. However, his joy was short-lived when he learned that in addition to Kent Brockman being demoted, the entire station had to suffer a $10,000,000 dollar fine for Kent Brockman's "shameful swear-aroney", especially when the fine also cost their mascot, Newshound, laser eye surgery to fix his lazy eye. Pye hated Brockman even more as a result, and was also present when Kent Brockman was fired from the station for suspected cocaine use. During his stint as News Anchor, he spoke in a deeper, smoother voice, but returned to his normal register when he got excited near the end of the report.(A similar gag was used in a previous episode with Bumblebee Man, who took over Brockman's desk and spoke perfect English as he delivered the news, right up until the end.)[1]

Since: Dec 10

Brisbane, Australia

#97964 Jan 22, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought of that after I posted. The constitution protects ones own thoughts and ideas as ones property by virtue of patents and copyrights.
No it doesn't, it doesn't protect the rights of anyone who is black, hispanic, Native Indian....because the founding fathers were racist who conjured up the constitution...and bill or rights....you can't have equality if it is not refering to all Americans regarless of race creed or colour....it is not worth the paper it is written on for the majority of Americans....it is in truth, a lie.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#97965 Jan 22, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>How incredibly gullible when one believes government is the answer to all problems.
I know isn't it, why is that only right-wing morons ever bring it up?
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#97966 Jan 22, 2013
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
BEWARE: A 'true' democracy is to be avoided like the plague, for in its essence, it is the very quintessence of the tyranny of the majority, where the minority become SLAVES, or worse yet? They are slaughtered!
A: And yet America a constitutional republic, not a democracy has given birth to the greatest disproportionate amounts of wealth in the world, it has given birth to company monopolies that dominate the wealth and government and world where they use that wealth to decide policy to oppress it's citizens to renew the class system to exploit Blacks and hispanics and lower class white's alike... who serve their masters and do the bidding of those with the power....Viva the Constitutional Republica!
Therefore, a republic is the VERY BEST form of government, just as long as the MAJORITY are NEVER afforded the leeway to FORCE ANYONE to act against his will.
A: No it isn't, you have failed in your effort to promote a sense of fairness and justice where you are no longer ruled or governed by foreign body but by midgen of rich Americans.....where a handful of people( who aren't the government) have 90% of America's wealth...but you have your guns right, so that makes everything equal. The minority have the say and they alone are the richest people in your country...the majority do not rule, it seema your republic has shown at it worst it allows dictatorship through wealth. It is ALWAYS better for the majority to have a voice, than a minority, a majority at least is in the best interest of most...don't you think!
Restore the republic. Repeal the 16th and 17th amendments. Those were passed during a progressive dominated era.

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