It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103340 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Teaman

Mount Holly, NJ

#97641 Jan 21, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
And voting machines are absolutely never able to be hacked, right?
Obama lost every state that required a voter ID.:-)

Romney got zero votes, nada, not a one, in 59 voting wards in Philadelphia. Cleveland was pretty much the same.

Only one precinct in St. Lucie County, Fl, had a turnout less than 113%

A county in Ohio had a 108% turnout.

It does not matter how people vote, it's who counts the votes that matter.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97642 Jan 21, 2013
Pet Indian Runner Ducks may be obtained for as little as $5 to $6 from breeders who wish to reduce their stocks. Show quality ducks cost around $50.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97643 Jan 21, 2013
Indian Runners could not be described as 'pets' as they are not capable of interaction with humans on any scale beyond responding to food. They are unable to live indoors but as a garden duck, they can be useful for providing fertiliser and for keeping spiders, snails and slugs away.
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#97644 Jan 21, 2013
deport fat losers wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah become a retard like the Canadian population eh with that stupid curling game with brooms. eh
That will be fun eh
Come and watch the annual paint drying festival in Winnipeg you hoser.
Too bad, buddy, I am not Canadian, I just live here.

yah, well, NFL football is getting to be a joke.... just a set up for

game-style action for 10 year olds. TV directors call the plays now.

You don't have to go to Winnipeg to curl... you can also curl in the USA.you yanker..
At least it is real compared to phony pretend reality TV NFL

AND....At least you can actually do real hunting in Canada. No shooting defenceless animals in parks like you NRA guys do... lame..
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97645 Jan 21, 2013
Indian Runner Ducks can be successfully kept in a penned are or allowed to roam free within a fenced boundary. They require access to water in which to bathe - the water must be a depth which allows to ducks to submerge themselves such as a pond or dam.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97646 Jan 21, 2013
Breeders say these ducks can be successfully kept by poultry enthusiasts of all ages and ability. They are best suited to people who have a yard area available and can offer the ducks a penned or caged area for protection at night.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97647 Jan 21, 2013
Indian Runners produce large quantities of eggs. The ducks themselves have enough flesh on them to feed two people and their meat is less fatty than other duck breeds.
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#97648 Jan 21, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
America also supplies millions of guns to Canada!
The best ones here come from Europe...
Teaman

Mount Holly, NJ

#97649 Jan 21, 2013
boo wrote:
Rarely suffer from ill health when well looked after and protected from predators. Feed ducks scraps and leftovers but include some commercial duck food from produce stores to ensure they get essential nutrients. Supply plenty of fresh water for drinking as well as water in a small pond for swimming (a disused child's pool will do). Make sure there is still a dry area in the pen so that their feet are not wet all the time, otherwise they could develop infections of the foot. Worm regularly, about twice a year, to keep them healthy.
Breeding
Some breeds like Pekins and Khaki Campbells are not considered good sitters although they do produce up to 120 eggs per season. Larger breeders will use incubators while others may substitute these eggs under another broody duck.
Space
Most duck breeds are well suited to suburban backyards and will forage for slugs and snails in the garden. All ducks can be messy and may trash a vegetable garden if allowed. While a pool or pond is not critical, a water container large enough in which to allow them to dunk is essential to ensure their eyes, nostrils and beaks stay clean and healthy.
Ducks do best when they have plenty of space in which to wander and so are best suited to larger backyards. It's important to check with your local council to ensure by-laws allow the keeping of poultry or waterfowl in the area.
Maintenance
Ducks need a shed or shelter that has a predator-proof yard or house to keep them safe at night and provide protection from the weather. Dry straw or a similar bedding is necessary for the ducks to sleep on and lay in. Renew the bedding every couple of days. The water container needs room enough for the ducks to splash and wash themselves and thus minimise mud clinging to feathers. A single duck can be lonely so always keep two or more ducks.
Too much reading, I'll wait for the movie.
Dr Freud

UK

#97650 Jan 21, 2013
Brit Expat wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok. Not that blill tho. as limiricks go. lol.
There was a young girl from Australia
Who's thing was as big as a dalia
At three pence a smell she did quite well
But! sixpence a lick was a failure
There was once a Brit Expat in France,
Who was given to song and dance,
He pranced like a poof, in drag and aloof,
And was soon looked upon by many askance!
Dr Freud

UK

#97651 Jan 21, 2013
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama lost every state that required a voter ID.:-)
Romney got zero votes, nada, not a one, in 59 voting wards in Philadelphia. Cleveland was pretty much the same.
Only one precinct in St. Lucie County, Fl, had a turnout less than 113%
A county in Ohio had a 108% turnout.
It does not matter how people vote, it's who counts the votes that matter.
Unless, and until those results are challenged in a court of law, then NOTHING is going to get done to correct that matter.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97652 Jan 21, 2013
Muscovies are the all time versatile pet -they are interesting looking, cheap to run and are also edible. If you have enough of these birds you can make a quilt!

Appearance

Muscovies are easily distinguished from other breeds by their faces which are devoid of feathers, bright red, flashy and carnunculated (lumpy). The male, when alarmed, excited or angry, will erect the feathers on the top of his head and appear quite leery and wicked.

Male Muscovies are considerably larger than females. Large males weigh as much as eight kilos and females weigh approximately half as much.

Colours

White, black and white, blue (a light grey colour) and white, and bronze and white. A fawn and white colour also occurs but is much less common.

Temperament

Muscovies are docile, placid and slow moving if unthreatened. They do not enjoy being caught and picked up and will squirt their droppings as a form of defense.

Drakes can be bad tempered and aggressive and are not suitable as pets. Drakes will fight together and have been known to kill and even eat ducklings.

Flight

Drakes are too heavy to fly but ducks (unlike other domestic breeds) are perfectly capable of flying and perching. Confining them to your own backyard may be achieved either by keeping them in a fully enclosed pen or by clipping the flight feathers on one wing.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97653 Jan 21, 2013
History

The Muscovy is a native South American duck and appears to be the only domestic duck breed which is not a descendant of the Mallard. Muscovy drakes lack the curly tail feathers characteristic of drakes of all other breeds.

The Muscovy belongs to a separate species to other domestic ducks and geese (Cairina moschata). Consequently the progeny which result from crosses between the two groups are sterile.

The name Muscovy is said to be derived from an odour of musk which pervades the skin but which disappears when cooked. Other sources say the Muscovy was named after the Muscovite Trading Company which plied its trade on the South American Coast.

Housing

Predators such as foxes and dogs will often make a meal of a duck and so some form of protective fencing or night time housing is essential. If the ducks muddy their pen it may be necessary to place the drinker on wire over a shallow pit.

It is advisable to stay close-by when letting very young ducklings away from shelter as they are susceptible to attack from predators, even during the day.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97655 Jan 21, 2013
Health & Lifespan

Muscovies have very few ailments and are hardier than other domestic duck breeds. Care must be taken to provide ducklings with shallow water troughs to prevent them from drowning. Ducklings must also be warm and dry before nightfall or in very cold weather as they have limited ability to restore lost body heat.

Muscovies have a lifespan of 7 to 8 years.

Feeding

Muscovies should have access to a high quality well balanced feed, specifically formulated for ducks. The nutrient requirements of the Muscovy differ significantly from those of chickens. Duck feed is available from produce stores.

Muscovies are not noticeably enthusiastic about searching for snails but are quite proficient at snapping up insects which come near them. Kitchen scraps and grass clippings should be included in the diet. Ducklings especially, enjoy cabbage leaves, watermelon shells, raw meat and bread and also like to fossick for insects and fresh grass.

Drinking water should be cool and clean - the ducks will quickly muddy their water and, if uncleaned, this can be a source of infection.
Teaman

Mount Holly, NJ

#97656 Jan 21, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
Unless, and until those results are challenged in a court of law, then NOTHING is going to get done to correct that matter.
There's a new brand of McCarthyism these days called racism.:-)

Don't count on anything being done about it. We're just stuck with him.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97657 Jan 21, 2013
jase wrote:
Glad I live in USA where there is highter learning.
highter learning huh ?
maybe you need to go back to hight school to learn to spell.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97658 Jan 21, 2013
A Muscovy duck will lay a clutch of 15 -18 eggs (one per day) and then sit if allowed. Otherwise she will take a break and lay another clutch. The eggs are about one and a half times the size of hen eggs and are equally edible - duck eggs are said to make perfect pavlovas.

Space and exercise

Muscovy ducklings, handfed in a domestic situation are not active birds but drakelets if not confined may destroy your garden. Muscovies will graze the lawn a little and will sample succulent greens but two or three ducks in the average backyard are unlikely to cause much damage. Small barriers can be used to protect plants if necessary. Muscovies do not swim much because their oil glands are under developed compared to most ducks.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97659 Jan 21, 2013
Noise

Drakes do not quack but hiss instead. The duck (female) squeaks with different emphases for different occasions.

Uses

Females are useful for egg production. Males are usually fattened for the table - they have more meat on them than other duck breeds. They are ideal for the table around the age of 10 or 12 weeks.

Further Information:

Contact the Royal Agricultural Society in your state for the names of breeders who exhibited birds in recent shows.
Brit Expat

Lunel, France

#97660 Jan 21, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
There was once a Brit Expat in France,
Who was given to song and dance,
He pranced like a poof, in drag and aloof,
And was soon looked upon by many askance!
Excellent! I love it!

There was a young girl from the Azores

Who's "thing! was all covered in sores

And dogs ate green meat as she walked down the street

Which hung in festoons from her draws.

Since: Dec 10

Brisbane, Australia

#97661 Jan 21, 2013
Things We Learned About Howard's War On Guns
Aussie gun owners were more receptive because they were getting a little somethin' somethin' in return. A similar approach in the US would put a massive strain on their economy.
To make this plan work, there had to be a federally financed gun buyback scheme. Ultimately, the cost of the buyback was met by a special one-off tax imposed on all Australians. This required new legislation and was widely accepted across the political spectrum. Almost 700,000 guns were bought back and destroyed — the equivalent of 40 million guns in the United States.
What a surprise. Racists and bigots like guns.
The leaders of the National Party, as well as the premier of Queensland, courageously supported my government’s decision, despite the electoral pain it caused them. Within a year, a new populist and conservative political party, the One Nation Party, emerged and took many votes from our coalition in subsequent state and federal elections; one of its key policies was the reversal of the gun laws.
Your "It's because of societies moral decay" argument is null and void you redneck yokel. Guns kill people.
The fundamental problem was the ready availability of high-powered weapons, which enabled people to convert their murderous impulses into mass killing. Certainly, shortcomings in treating mental illness and the harmful influence of violent video games and movies may have played a role. But nothing trumps easy access to a gun. It is easier to kill 10 people with a gun than with a knife.
While his lack of sporting prowess and dorky demeanor suggested otherwise, Howard must have had a pretty mean "Don't fuck with me or I'll end you!" side to him behind closed doors.
For a time, it seemed that certain states might refuse to enact the ban. But I made clear that my government was willing to hold a nationwide referendum to alter the Australian Constitution and give the federal government constitutional power over guns. Such a referendum would have been expensive and divisive, but it would have passed. And all state governments knew this.
This was the Howard Government's greatest achievement and will benefit Australians for generations to come.
In the end, we won the battle to change gun laws because there was majority support across Australia for banning certain weapons. And today, there is a wide consensus that our 1996 reforms not only reduced the gun-related homicide rate, but also the suicide rate. The Australian Institute of Criminology found that gun-related murders and suicides fell sharply after 1996. The American Journal of Law and Economics found that our gun buyback scheme cut firearm suicides by 74 percent. In the 18 years before the 1996 reforms, Australia suffered 13 gun massacres — each with more than four victims — causing a total of 102 deaths. There has not been a single massacre in that category since 1996.
A: This is how true governments show courage, strength and leadership when they are serious about protecting it's citizens in the face of adversity in a sane country, and it works!

I am not the one crying......BOO HOO

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