It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103299 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Since: Dec 10

Brisbane, Australia

#97628 Jan 21, 2013
cont:
The gun buyback also had some unexpected payoffs. While at the Australian National University, in work with my former academic colleague Christine Neill, I looked at the effect of the Australian gun buyback on firearm suicide and homicide rates. Shocking as mass shootings are, they represent a tiny fraction of all gun deaths. If there's a gun in your home, the person most likely to kill you with it is yourself, followed by your spouse.
Neill and I found that the firearm suicide and homicide rates more than halved after the Australian gun buyback. Although the gun death rate was falling before 1997, it accelerated downwards after the buyback. Looking across states, we also found that jurisdictions where more guns were bought back experienced a greater reduction in firearms homicide and suicide.
We estimate that the Australian gun buyback continues to save about 200 lives per year. That means thousands of people are walking the streets today who would not be alive without the National Firearms Agreement. Other work, including that by public health researchers Simon Chapman, Philip Alpers, Kingsley Agho and Michael Jones, reaches a similar conclusion.
For the United States, where Alpers will present research on the Australian experience at the Summit on Reducing Gun Violence in America this week, reform is tougher. According to the General Social Survey, 32 per cent of US households own a gun, and a patchwork of city and state laws means that restrictions in one jurisdiction are often undercut by people travelling interstate to buy a weapon.
Historically, the US National Rifle Association was a moderate body, akin to some Australian shooting groups. It supported the first federal gun laws in the 1930s, and backed a ban on cheap ''Saturday night specials'' in the 1960s. Since the 1977 ''Cincinnati Revolt'', when hardliners took over, the NRA has opposed all restrictions on firearms ownership, including bans on assault rifles and armour-piercing bullets (''cop killers''). Members of Congress rate the NRA the most powerful lobbying organisation in the nation.

The challenge for American legislators today is to stand up to these powerful extremists, and follow the example of Australia's leaders in 1996. With 86 Americans dying each day because of gun accidents, suicides or homicides, perhaps our experience can persuade sensible US legislators that there is a better way. As in Australia, the onus is on the conservative side of politics.
For Australia, the challenges in firearms policy are more modest, but still real. All states and territories should heed the call from the Minister for Justice, Jason Clare, to implement a national firearms register. This will help to keep track of weapons when they are sold or their owners move interstate. And it will help to ensure that Australian firearms do not fall into the wrong hands.
Andrew Leigh is the federal member for Fraser, and a former professor of economics at the Australian National University.
A: If Obama is serious he should canvas countries who have been successful in reducing or stopping the amount of massacres in their countries because of the introduction of tough gun control laws and strong conviction to find a solid solution to the problem......
There are many countries who live with bloodshed and violence and massacre's daily because of guns .....and only a handful that can honestly say they have succeeded in removing the threat because of the stricter gun control laws....
"Australia" can lay claim to being one that been successful.
Brit Expat

Montpellier, France

#97629 Jan 21, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
There was once a self-proclaimed British Expat,
Who was enamored of declaring both this, and that,
But upon closer inspection of his declarations,
It was found that he engaged in deceits, and deceptions,
Being nothing more than a whole reeking load of bull scat!
Hee hee. Where do you reside in the UK? ENGLISH?PAKI?ECT?ECT?ECT?

I'm of the great days. The Empire.
boo

Thailand

#97631 Jan 21, 2013
The overall body plan of ducks is elongated and broad, and the ducks are also relatively long-necked, albeit not as long-necked as the geese and swans. The body shape of diving ducks varies somewhat from this in being more rounded. The bill is usually broad and contains serrated lamellae, which are particularly well defined in the filter-feeding species. In the case of some fishing species the bill is long and strongly serrated. The scaled legs are strong and well developed, and generally set far back on the body, more so in the highly aquatic species. The wings are very strong and are generally short and pointed, and the flight of ducks requires fast continuous strokes, requiring in turn strong wing muscles. Three species of steamer duck are almost flightless, however. Many species of duck are temporarily flightless while moulting; they seek out protected habitat with good food supplies during this period. This moult typically precedes migration.

The drakes of northern species often have extravagant plumage, but that is moulted in summer to give a more female-like appearance, the "eclipse" plumage. Southern resident species typically show less sexual dimorphism, although there are exceptions like the Paradise Shelduck of New Zealand which is both strikingly sexually dimorphic and where the female's plumage is brighter than that of the male. The plumage of juvenile birds generally resembles that of the female.
Feeding


Pecten along the beak
Ducks exploit a variety of food sources such as grasses, aquatic plants, fish, insects, small amphibians, worms, and small molluscs.

Diving ducks and sea ducks forage deep underwater. To be able to submerge more easily, the diving ducks are heavier than dabbling ducks, and therefore have more difficulty taking off to fly.

Dabbling ducks feed on the surface of water or on land, or as deep as they can reach by up-ending without completely submerging.[3] Along the edge of the beak there is a comb-like structure called a pecten. This strains the water squirting from the side of the beak and traps any food. The pecten is also used to preen feathers.

A few specialized species such as the mergansers are adapted to catch and swallow large fish.

The others have the characteristic wide flat beak adapted to dredging-type jobs such as pulling up waterweed, pulling worms and small molluscs out of mud, searching for insect larvae, and bulk jobs such as dredging out, holding, turning headfirst, and swallowing a squirming frog. To avoid injury when digging into sediment it has no cere. but the nostrils come out through hard horn
boo

Thailand

#97632 Jan 21, 2013
The ducks have a cosmopolitan distribution occurring across most of the world except for Antarctica. A number of species manage to live on sub-Antarctic islands like South Georgia and the Auckland Islands. Numerous ducks have managed to establish themselves on oceanic islands such as Hawaii, New Zealand and Kerguelen, although many of these species and populations are threatened or have become extinct.

Some duck species, mainly those breeding in the temperate and Arctic Northern Hemisphere, are migratory; those in the tropics, however, are generally not. Some ducks, particularly in Australia where rainfall is patchy and erratic, are nomadic, seeking out the temporary lakes and pools that form after localised heavy rain.[citation needed]

Predators


Ringed Teal
Worldwide, ducks have many predators. Ducklings are particularly vulnerable, since their inability to fly makes them easy prey not only for predatory birds but also large fish like pike, crocodilians, and other aquatic hunters, including fish-eating birds such as herons. Ducks' nests are raided by land-based predators, and brooding females may be caught unaware on the nest by mammals, such as foxes, or large birds, such as hawks or eagles.

Adult ducks are fast fliers, but may be caught on the water by large aquatic predators including big fish such as the North American muskie and the European pike. In flight, ducks are safe from all but a few predators such as humans and the Peregrine Falcon, which regularly uses its speed and strength to catch ducks.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97634 Jan 21, 2013
Many people dream one day of having some ducks in the backyard and there are quite a few different breeds you can pick from. Ducks are bred for all sorts of purposes; as snail eaters, egg layers, for meat or simply as a hobby so it's just a matter of choosing a breed that suits your backyard and needs.

Breeds

The Pekin is described as an attractive large white duck, although the plumage can show a tinge of cream or yellow. They weigh 3.5-4kg (about 8-9lb) with yellow or reddish-orange bill and legs. They are usually bred for meat but are also attractive ducks in the backyard.

Other duck breeds mentioned in our segment include the Muscovy which is actually a separate species. Muscovies come in colours including black, blue, white, black & white, and white. They are docile, placid and good foragers for snails. They are also bred for their meat and eggs.

The Cayuga takes it name from Lake Cayuga in the US. These are large and pretty green-black ducks which are good layers and are quieter than other breeds.

Khaki Campbells are medium sized ducks (2.25-2.5kg (5-5.5lb)) with slender necks. They are mainly khaki coloured with a dark brown upper head and neck. These are fast growing and easy to raise ducks, usually bred as layers because their eggs are a similar size to chicken eggs.



Temperament

Ducks are intelligent and friendly in general. Some breeds are quieter than others but most breeds contain lovable characteristics
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97635 Jan 21, 2013
Rarely suffer from ill health when well looked after and protected from predators. Feed ducks scraps and leftovers but include some commercial duck food from produce stores to ensure they get essential nutrients. Supply plenty of fresh water for drinking as well as water in a small pond for swimming (a disused child's pool will do). Make sure there is still a dry area in the pen so that their feet are not wet all the time, otherwise they could develop infections of the foot. Worm regularly, about twice a year, to keep them healthy.
Breeding
Some breeds like Pekins and Khaki Campbells are not considered good sitters although they do produce up to 120 eggs per season. Larger breeders will use incubators while others may substitute these eggs under another broody duck.
Space
Most duck breeds are well suited to suburban backyards and will forage for slugs and snails in the garden. All ducks can be messy and may trash a vegetable garden if allowed. While a pool or pond is not critical, a water container large enough in which to allow them to dunk is essential to ensure their eyes, nostrils and beaks stay clean and healthy.
Ducks do best when they have plenty of space in which to wander and so are best suited to larger backyards. It's important to check with your local council to ensure by-laws allow the keeping of poultry or waterfowl in the area.
Maintenance
Ducks need a shed or shelter that has a predator-proof yard or house to keep them safe at night and provide protection from the weather. Dry straw or a similar bedding is necessary for the ducks to sleep on and lay in. Renew the bedding every couple of days. The water container needs room enough for the ducks to splash and wash themselves and thus minimise mud clinging to feathers. A single duck can be lonely so always keep two or more ducks.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97636 Jan 21, 2013
Unlike other ducks, the Indian Runner does not waddle but rather the position of its legs gives them a characteristic running motion.Another peculiarity of the Indian Runner Duck is its shape which is described as being like a wine bottle. They also have long, snake-like necks. When wandering around they walk flat but stand upright when disturbed. Exhibitors often train their ducks to stand upright but their methods are usually kept secret. Indian Runners are a relatively small breed of duck, with the standard listing 1.6-2.25kg (3.5-5lb) for drakes and 1.35-2 kg (3-4.5lb) for ducks. Drakes are 65-80cm (26-32 in.), ducks 60-70 cm (24-28 in.).
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97637 Jan 21, 2013
The Indian Runner Duck breed is believed to have originated in South East Asia, probably the islands of Indonesia, an area once known as the Dutch East Indies, hence the name Indian Runner. Texts refer to a ship's captain who took fawn and fawn and white-coloured ducks from Malaya back to his home in Dumfries, Scotland, where the ducks were distributed across the border into Cumberland. It is understood that fawns were first exhibited in 1876, while fawn and whites were shown in 1896. The Indian Runner Duck Club standard for fawn and whites was accepted in 1913. They are not a common breed in Australia
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97638 Jan 21, 2013
Worms are the most common health problem with these ducks. It is recommended that any new ducks be wormed immediately, then 21 days later and again 21 days after that, then every 5-6 months. Ducks may also need to be dusted for parasites on the head area
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97639 Jan 21, 2013
Duck pellets are readily available. A 40 kg bag of duck pellets should last an adult pair at least one month. Duck feed should be placed in bowls to prevent contamination. Water bowls should be accessible at all times and should be anchored with bricks to prevent the ducks turning them over.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97640 Jan 21, 2013
Although Indian Runners are prolific egg-layers, they are not very broody. Therefore, if you wish to breed them, and you don't have access to an incubator (which many breeders use), the eggs should be placed under another broody duck to hatch. Indian Runners, unlike some other duck breeds, do not need water for breeding (although they must have water available at all times for drinking). Ducklings are best raised in small flocks.
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#97641 Jan 21, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
And voting machines are absolutely never able to be hacked, right?
Obama lost every state that required a voter ID.:-)

Romney got zero votes, nada, not a one, in 59 voting wards in Philadelphia. Cleveland was pretty much the same.

Only one precinct in St. Lucie County, Fl, had a turnout less than 113%

A county in Ohio had a 108% turnout.

It does not matter how people vote, it's who counts the votes that matter.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97642 Jan 21, 2013
Pet Indian Runner Ducks may be obtained for as little as $5 to $6 from breeders who wish to reduce their stocks. Show quality ducks cost around $50.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97643 Jan 21, 2013
Indian Runners could not be described as 'pets' as they are not capable of interaction with humans on any scale beyond responding to food. They are unable to live indoors but as a garden duck, they can be useful for providing fertiliser and for keeping spiders, snails and slugs away.
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#97644 Jan 21, 2013
deport fat losers wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah become a retard like the Canadian population eh with that stupid curling game with brooms. eh
That will be fun eh
Come and watch the annual paint drying festival in Winnipeg you hoser.
Too bad, buddy, I am not Canadian, I just live here.

yah, well, NFL football is getting to be a joke.... just a set up for

game-style action for 10 year olds. TV directors call the plays now.

You don't have to go to Winnipeg to curl... you can also curl in the USA.you yanker..
At least it is real compared to phony pretend reality TV NFL

AND....At least you can actually do real hunting in Canada. No shooting defenceless animals in parks like you NRA guys do... lame..
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97645 Jan 21, 2013
Indian Runner Ducks can be successfully kept in a penned are or allowed to roam free within a fenced boundary. They require access to water in which to bathe - the water must be a depth which allows to ducks to submerge themselves such as a pond or dam.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97646 Jan 21, 2013
Breeders say these ducks can be successfully kept by poultry enthusiasts of all ages and ability. They are best suited to people who have a yard area available and can offer the ducks a penned or caged area for protection at night.
boo

Moscow, Russia

#97647 Jan 21, 2013
Indian Runners produce large quantities of eggs. The ducks themselves have enough flesh on them to feed two people and their meat is less fatty than other duck breeds.
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#97648 Jan 21, 2013
Spocko wrote:
<quoted text>
America also supplies millions of guns to Canada!
The best ones here come from Europe...
Teaman

Abingdon, VA

#97649 Jan 21, 2013
boo wrote:
Rarely suffer from ill health when well looked after and protected from predators. Feed ducks scraps and leftovers but include some commercial duck food from produce stores to ensure they get essential nutrients. Supply plenty of fresh water for drinking as well as water in a small pond for swimming (a disused child's pool will do). Make sure there is still a dry area in the pen so that their feet are not wet all the time, otherwise they could develop infections of the foot. Worm regularly, about twice a year, to keep them healthy.
Breeding
Some breeds like Pekins and Khaki Campbells are not considered good sitters although they do produce up to 120 eggs per season. Larger breeders will use incubators while others may substitute these eggs under another broody duck.
Space
Most duck breeds are well suited to suburban backyards and will forage for slugs and snails in the garden. All ducks can be messy and may trash a vegetable garden if allowed. While a pool or pond is not critical, a water container large enough in which to allow them to dunk is essential to ensure their eyes, nostrils and beaks stay clean and healthy.
Ducks do best when they have plenty of space in which to wander and so are best suited to larger backyards. It's important to check with your local council to ensure by-laws allow the keeping of poultry or waterfowl in the area.
Maintenance
Ducks need a shed or shelter that has a predator-proof yard or house to keep them safe at night and provide protection from the weather. Dry straw or a similar bedding is necessary for the ducks to sleep on and lay in. Renew the bedding every couple of days. The water container needs room enough for the ducks to splash and wash themselves and thus minimise mud clinging to feathers. A single duck can be lonely so always keep two or more ducks.
Too much reading, I'll wait for the movie.

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