It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 20 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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GoGoBar

Thailand

#95482 Jan 12, 2013
Teaman wrote:
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That figures. That's where all bills go to die, the democrat senate.
Is that constitutional? Why not have a Royal Commission.
look

Sitka, KY

#95484 Jan 12, 2013
Guppy wrote:
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We don't know what the questions were. That makes a difference. The only people that like the NRA are people like you. Normal people would like to shut them down.
Can't wait until THEY come for your guns.
Your STUPID, enough said...

“We don't have to take it”

Since: Jun 08

WhereTFamI?

#95485 Jan 12, 2013
MalbarCACA Controller wrote:
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Reckon you going to get past us Granny Malbar CACA TROLL from Brisbane?
DO NOT POST POST AGAIN TILL YOU HAVE WIPED YOUR HOMETWON.
DO NOT LOG BACK IN UNLESS YOU HVE UNHIDDEN ALL LOCATIONS>
The 'Skeptics' are an Organised Hate Group

The so-called "skeptics" are a misinformation campaign run by angry male homosexuals masquerading as atheists whose management has a significant interest in pedophilia, its promotion and protection.

They have replaced the old "quackbuster" operation. http://www.quackpotwatch.org/WisconsinWar/who ...

They are PAID to troll the internet blogs, disrupt threads, abuse posters, denigrate decent people, and generally cause havock. They are also pro-pedophilia. http://www.bolenreport.com/skeptics/Skeptics2 ...

MORE: http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T1 ...
Teaman

Mount Holly, NJ

#95486 Jan 12, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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Is that constitutional? Why not have a Royal Commission.
It is constitutional. The problem with the senate is the 17th amendment, a progressive doing at the turn of the twentieth century along with the progressive income tax. The senators were once sent by state legislators to represent the states in the federal government, hence the reason each state has two senators. The senate had a way of keeping the federal government from becoming too powerful. Now, the people vote for senators which caused them to become political party hacks that pander for the public vote and not really looking out for their state's interests. They actually do damage to state budgets.

What is a Royal Commission?

“" BITE ME "”

Since: Dec 10

Olney township

#95487 Jan 12, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
China has called the the 2nd ammendment a breach of human rights.
How embarrassing to get YELLED at by the Chinese :o
It's nearly inconceivable for me to agree with Tray, upon anything.

--BUT

I do here.

China's the last nation to be preaching Human Rights.

“" BITE ME "”

Since: Dec 10

Olney township

#95488 Jan 12, 2013
Gottaliv wrote:
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The 'Skeptics' are an Organised Hate Group
The so-called "skeptics" are a misinformation campaign run by angry male homosexuals masquerading as atheists whose management has a significant interest in pedophilia, its promotion and protection.
They have replaced the old "quackbuster" operation. http://www.quackpotwatch.org/WisconsinWar/who ...
They are PAID to troll the internet blogs, disrupt threads, abuse posters, denigrate decent people, and generally cause havock. They are also pro-pedophilia. http://www.bolenreport.com/skeptics/Skeptics2 ...
MORE: http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T1 ...
"Pissed off white, male, homosexual pedophiles"?

--SOUNDS

Like the typical turnout for a Tea Party rally, to me.

:)
jaes

Hartselle, AL

#95489 Jan 12, 2013
Glad I'm American and don't worry about your democrat republican bull.
Dr Freud

UK

#95490 Jan 12, 2013
Empathica wrote:
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"Pissed off white, male, homosexual pedophiles"?
--SOUNDS
Like the typical turnout for a Tea Party rally, to me.
:)
Face it: Every gathering of whatever group with whom you happen to disagree, will be exactly as you've described, regardless even, if they are all women.
You're just another paid shill.
just my opinion

Coffeyville, KS

#95491 Jan 12, 2013
You can choose not to agree with guns and think no one should own them, that is your choice. You can also choose not to believe in God, that also is your choice. But the first two things you unarmed idiots do when an armed criminal breaks into your house is call someone with a gun like the police, and then pray they get there in time!
Dr Freud

UK

#95492 Jan 12, 2013
just my opinion wrote:
You can choose not to agree with guns and think no one should own them, that is your choice. You can also choose not to believe in God, that also is your choice. But the first two things you unarmed idiots do when an armed criminal breaks into your house is call someone with a gun like the police, and then pray they get there in time!
Very much agree!
And, it is my considered opinion, for what that might be worth, that everyone should be made to pay the full price for their lack of preparation which they could have been making long before any particular situation arrived.
Of course, if one is dirt poor, and cannot afford certain things, then I consider them to be exempt from that, as long as their predicament lasts.

“" BITE ME "”

Since: Dec 10

Olney township

#95493 Jan 12, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
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Very much agree!
And, it is my considered opinion, for what that might be worth, that everyone should be made to pay the full price for their lack of preparation which they could have been making long before any particular situation arrived.
Of course, if one is dirt poor, and cannot afford certain things, then I consider them to be exempt from that, as long as their predicament lasts.
Another lesson in "small", "decentralized" government?

--FROM

The resident,

Conservative tharg.

Precious
Dr Freud

UK

#95494 Jan 12, 2013
Empathica wrote:
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Another lesson in "small", "decentralized" government?
--FROM
The resident,
Conservative tharg.
Precious
Said the COMMUNIST rapist, robber, and MURDERER.
guest

United States

#95495 Jan 12, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
China has called the the 2nd ammendment a breach of human rights.
How embarrassing to get YELLED at by the Chinese :o
Oh? The country that has 1,000,000+ children born each year with birth defects due to pollution calls the killing of 30 a "breach of human rights"

Hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.
Teaman

Mount Holly, NJ

#95496 Jan 12, 2013
Empathica wrote:
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Another lesson in "small", "decentralized" government?
--FROM
The resident,
Conservative tharg.
Precious
Centralized.

One people, one Deutschland, one fuhrer.

“" BITE ME "”

Since: Dec 10

Olney township

#95497 Jan 12, 2013
Dr Freud wrote:
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Said the COMMUNIST rapist, robber, and MURDERER.
"COMMUNIST rapist, robber, and MURDERER"?

:)

--YOU

Haven't even the coherent thought to reason with yourself and discussion with others is quite beyond the capacity.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#95498 Jan 12, 2013
GoGoBar wrote:
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Maybee if it wasnt he would have then just opened fire from under his car on the playground with the Bushmaster during recess.
He was a suicide. Fear of being shot was not in his reasoning. But he had access to weapons that allow him to formulate tactics.
Jared Loughner was in a CCW area. He was one. He had wrapped his ID in a plastic bag so he could be Identified. He was only stopped when he had to reload. And there was a CCW man in the vicinity. But a little old lady got him with her handbag. But not before he did some damage with his Glock 19.
Possibly, but then if it wasn't a gun free zone, principal Joe Rambo and assistant principal Ms Ann Oakley might have whacked him ,his auto, and his Bushmaster at 500 yards with their school issued, taxpayer funded, Barrett .50 cal sniper rifles. No one said armed guards or armed teachers or ccw permits are the only answers but disarming the victims is low on my list of solutions.
Dr Freud

UK

#95499 Jan 12, 2013
Empathica wrote:
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"COMMUNIST rapist, robber, and MURDERER"?
:)
--YOU
Haven't even the coherent thought to reason with yourself and discussion with others is quite beyond the capacity.
Said the COMMUNIST rapist, robber, and MURDERER.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#95501 Jan 12, 2013
India Business Man wrote:
In India we have no guns.
Sometimes there is a shortage of vindaloo curry and I cant go poo poo.
But I come to this forum because it is the same of crap day in day out and it fixes my constipation.OOOOOOOOh I just pooed now, it blew a hole through the chair and the floor. Now I can see the appartment below. The have poo all over the floor to because it is Indoia
'Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
Mohandas Gandhi
Dr Freud

UK

#95502 Jan 12, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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'Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
Mohandas Gandhi
Here's another item as well:
In The Wake Of Sandy Hook (Pro Gun & Pro Truth Documentary)(22minute video)
http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/in-the-wa...
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#95503 Jan 12, 2013
just my opinion wrote:
You can choose not to agree with guns and think no one should own them, that is your choice. You can also choose not to believe in God, that also is your choice. But the first two things you unarmed idiots do when an armed criminal breaks into your house is call someone with a gun like the police, and then pray they get there in time!
You live in very special universe where stupidity and ignorance is a celebration. In reality, the universe most of us live in, armed home invasion is extremely rare. If you let the NRA do your thinking, which obviously you do happily, you believe we 8,000 plus home invasions occur in North America every day – North America? Including Canada and Mexico? Every day? The fact is, no one has these statistics, not even the FBI. Moreover, according to police statistics and judging from the nationwide RSS feed posting every day on Home Invasion News, we aren’t seeing less than a hundred home invasions! The home defense industry has taken up with the NRA and amplified it so much out of proportion that it morphs into a totally new (and quasi-mythical) creature.

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