It's the Guns, Stupid

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“And that's the end of the issue”

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Guppy

Bristol, PA

#84042 Dec 7, 2012
The nurse in London.

Auzzie's basically killed her.

They have blood on their hands.

Way to go Auzzie's!

“Tilt my hat at the sun”

Since: Jun 12

And the shadows they burn dark

#84043 Dec 7, 2012
Guppy wrote:
The nurse in London.
Auzzie's basically killed her.
They have blood on their hands.
Way to go Auzzie's!
Sigh....here we go again, same retarded sh*t, different thread.
Ignorant fools like yourself might believe that is so but just stop & think for a second about what you've just said.
How can Australians be responsible when someone on the other side of the world decides to take their own life?
If that's what happened, I've seen no official confirmation of that so far.
There's only one person responsible for making that decision, the nurse herself.
Law

Papillion, NE

#84044 Dec 7, 2012
Guppy wrote:
The nurse in London.
Auzzie's basically killed her.
They have blood on their hands.
Way to go Auzzie's!
Yeah, right. She chose to kill herself. She made that choice. Not the Aussies.

Since: Feb 11

Ely, UK

#84045 Dec 8, 2012
Guppy wrote:
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Why do you like to keep busy?
Something else, but it was kind of a very small riot.
I have no idea, other than it suits me.

Something else ? small riot ? did you consider buying a gun at the time ?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#84046 Dec 8, 2012
Guppy wrote:
The nurse in London.
Auzzie's basically killed her.
They have blood on their hands.
Way to go Auzzie's!
That was a terrible tragedy, made more terrible by those that ridiculed her for a simple honest mistake....

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#84047 Dec 8, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
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Reach for the stars!!! Grabbing FOR something is not the same as grabbed it. You can reach for something and yet not reach it. You won't leave DNA just for the attempt.
I am stating the evidence as it came...Zimmerman obviously told police that Marting reached for his gun, the cops had to check if Martins print were on the gun because if they were it would prove that part of Zimmermans story, as it is there was none of Martins DNA on the gun so it is still a he said vs he said scenario.

Since: Feb 11

Ely, UK

#84048 Dec 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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I don't believe people think deeply enough or realise that to hate a guy because they are an Arab or Jewish or black or hispanic or Indian etc, they are being hateful to all.....they just never realise when they have a go at Obama because of his heritage or his colour that, that is being a racist...because it's ok he's their President or they call someone a black bastard or whatever that their excuse is they are not racist because they don't hate the black children or their whole race simply because they sling off at one....When people are threatened job being taken away from them by another group....they will always use the race card... in war they did it with the Germans the Japanese and the Jews, in your country it's the Indians and the Negro's and Muslims(not a race) arabs, ours it's everyone, because we like to be equal...racism is everywhere....
If YOU are racist, then that is something YOU have to deal with, or not. Have you considered thoughtfully the reason's for your racism ? do you approach other's or talk to them in a negative manner ? doing so will give of the wrong impression and they may well reciprocate if they are allso of a weak frame of mind.
During verbal confrontations people will often throw out attempts at insults such as :- You tall short fat skinny lanky dummpy stupid smartarse ugly overated idiot. those sort of remarks are not racism, but are said in an attempt to suggest that we are better than the person the remarks are directed at,,the same is true when colour is brought up and does not mean the person using such words is a racist, only some times not allways.
sid

Brisbane, Australia

#84049 Dec 8, 2012
Interesting isn't it, guns don't kill people so if there were no guns in america the murder statistics would be exactly the same only there would be a lot more baseball bats in circulation.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#84050 Dec 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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I am stating the evidence as it came...Zimmerman obviously told police that Marting reached for his gun, the cops had to check if Martins print were on the gun because if they were it would prove that part of Zimmermans story, as it is there was none of Martins DNA on the gun so it is still a he said vs he said scenario.
The fact Trayvon didn't get the gun is self evident. How would his DNA be on an object he didn't get? You also miss the fact DNA is not always detectable or deposited on an object. It was raining, the gun was in a holster, George handled the gun. There is also the chance DNA was on the gun but washed off by the rain or wiped off by George handling it. In this situation any lab person would tell you the likelihood of finding DNA on this object would be difficult to impossible at best.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#84051 Dec 8, 2012
sid wrote:
Interesting isn't it, guns don't kill people so if there were no guns in america the murder statistics would be exactly the same only there would be a lot more baseball bats in circulation.
Interesting isn't it. Violent crime in gun-free countries goes up. Since the victims can't defend themselves the crime is more likely successful leaving more victims. Is it better to have many more rape and assault victims than a few dead criminals who get to just reoffend over and over? Interesting fact-people killed each other very well long before guns were ever invented mostly by criminals and oppressive dictators.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#84052 Dec 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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As would your Indians and Negro's if you had of had no use for them....what's your point?
Hmm. Three examples of what happens to unarmed populations.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#84053 Dec 8, 2012
The discovery of penicillin is attributed to Scottish scientist and Nobel laureate Alexander Fleming in 1928. He showed that, if Penicillium rubens were grown in the appropriate substrate, it would exude a substance with antibiotic properties, which he dubbed penicillin. This serendipitous observation began the modern era of antibiotic discovery. The development of penicillin for use as a medicine is attributed to the Australian Nobel laureate Howard Walter Florey, together with the German Nobel laureate Ernst Chain and the English biochemist Norman Heatley.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#84054 Dec 8, 2012
Spray-on skin is a patented skin culturing treatment for burns victims, developed by scientist Marie Stoner and plastic surgeon Dr Fiona Wood of Perth, Western Australia. Wood's treatment is under ongoing development. Where previous techniques of skin culturing required 21 days to produce enough cells to cover major burns, Wood has reduced the period to five days. Through research, she found that scarring is greatly reduced if replacement skin could be provided within 10 days. Dr Wood's reported goal is "scarless woundless healing".

Wood established a company called Clinical Cell Culture (C3) in 1993 to commercialise the procedure. Her business came about after a schoolteacher arrived at Royal Perth Hospital in 1992 with petrol burns to 90% of his body. Wood turned to the emerging US-invented technology of cultured skin to save his life, working nights in a laboratory along with scientist Marie Stoner. The two women began to explore tissue engineering and moved from growing skin sheets to spraying skin cells.
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#84055 Dec 8, 2012
Tray

Saltillo, MS

#84056 Dec 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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And don't forget penicilin, spray on skin the coclear ear implant all of which has saved billions and allowed hundreds of thousands the hear and got burns victims the best chance of a fast recovery for their injuries that you can thank us for...and no it was not an America pharmaceutical company...but a good try to take the credit like most of Americans, you fit the mold well......there are many, many more inventions attributed to Australians....we try to concentrate on healing not killing....
Yes you would not want to take credit for someone else work would you.
Dr Freud

Netherlands

#84062 Dec 8, 2012
sid wrote:
Interesting isn't it, guns don't kill people so if there were no guns in america the murder statistics would be exactly the same only there would be a lot more baseball bats in circulation.
Or for any other things, such as blades, fists and feet, rocks, clubs, bench grinders, automobiles, etc.
It's all a matter of 'convenience,' you see?
And of course it's far too convenient to 'blame' an object, rather than to blame the person utilizing the object, because then the person is somehow exonerated.
The whole thought there, you see, is one of blaming the object, and is predicated upon the idea that the object is somehow imbued with 'magical powers,' such as to be able to 'influence' the mind of its possessor.
So, a gun makes its possessor want to shoot some poor, unsuspecting soul, and a knife influences its possessor to go slash, and stab some poor unsuspecting soul!
Heaven help us, because almost every kitchen in the world has knives just waiting to influence the inhabitants of that household!!!
Once you step outside the realm of reality, and into that realm of the fanciful, then just anything is bound to happen, including the impossible.
All you have to think is just this: "Because I said so!"
Flights of fancy, and all that rot!
Guppy

Bristol, PA

#84064 Dec 8, 2012
spider1954 wrote:
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I have no idea, other than it suits me.
Something else ? small riot ? did you consider buying a gun at the time ?
Spidey ~

Buying a gun ~ No, it never entered my mind.

Small riot ~ just a few people.

Something else ~ I don't know why I typed that.???
X Obama Supporter

Coffeyville, KS

#84065 Dec 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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I am stating the evidence as it came...Zimmerman obviously told police that Marting reached for his gun, the cops had to check if Martins print were on the gun because if they were it would prove that part of Zimmermans story, as it is there was none of Martins DNA on the gun so it is still a he said vs he said scenario.
Yes it is a he said he said scenario, but the fact still remains that Martin not having any DNA on Z's gun proves nothing except that he did not reach it.....still doesn't prove he didn't reach FOR it.
Guppy

Bristol, PA

#84066 Dec 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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Actually I am blaming the US because it was to blame for it's lies and deciet....but if you note I am (unlike yanks) also blaming my government here at the time(Howard) for ignoring the advice of it's own intelligence who was giving advice contrary to the CIA which turned out to be accurate...but America or it's government or it's people would not listen to Australia in such matters, they had righteous on their side they were going after those to get at Bin Laden (manipulation at it's best) get it right fish!....You are being to overly simplistic....if your friend was bashed by another boy and your freind was angry and hurt and wanted to go and attack that person he said had committed the injury but he needed your support, you would give him your support because he is your friend and you trust that he has the right information because he was the one involved and he was the one injured, why would he lie and say it was someone else? How would your friendship stand up after the lie was discovered?
How do you have inside information?

It doesn't speak well of your government to be pushed around like that, does it? You guys didn't listen to your own intelligence? The story gets better and better.

You guys have been fighting an American war for a Long time. If you were so duped and so upset by it ~ why have you continued to fight along side of the American's? Common sense would tell you to get out. Why didn't Rudd get you out of the war? Was he someone's lap dog? How about Gillard? Something doesn't add up. Your story is not to be believed. Fess up.

If my friend were bashed by another boy ~ I would stay out of it. I would feel really bad for my friend and I would have no respect for the basher. It's not my place to be a basher of sorts. My friend needs to stand on his own two feet. Maybe he started the whole thing.

Your point was?
Guppy

Bristol, PA

#84067 Dec 8, 2012
WMCOL wrote:
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A little late but better late than never.
Professor Kelly Chibale and his colleagues of Cape Town South Africa have discovered a pill that with one dose wipes out malaria in a victim of it.
And of course, malaria was treatable before if done in time.
Not a big deal.

Malaria doesn't affect that many people.

Spend your time on something that MOST people need help for.

Maybe that's too difficult for ya.

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