It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

There are 103297 comments on the Truthdig story from Apr 20, 2007, titled It's the Guns, Stupid. In it, Truthdig reports that:

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Guppy

Gadsden, AL

#83924 Dec 6, 2012
spider1954 wrote:
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Do you ?
I have been to the Miami airport once. I think we were going to Ocean Reef, Florida

It's OK if you answer that question. I won't turn you in to the authorities. Ha.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#83925 Dec 6, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
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YOU are a COMPLETE and TOTAL ARSE!
The hormone estrogen, is an stress hormone. When people, both men and woman, are under stress, their bodies produce estrogen, and people under LOTS of stress produce LOTS of estrogen, when eventually leads to body breakdown.
Women undergoing PMS, tend to produce LOTS of estrogen, and as a consequence become psychologically 'unhinged,' evincing all of the traits of someone under stress.
There are several strategies to deal with that physiological hormonal imbalance.
But YOUR statement is, beyond any reasonable doubt, the MOST IRRESPONSIBLE utterance ANYONE could possibly make!
Suggesting that anyone take 'estrogen' has got to be, in my estimation, a MOST CRIMINAL, and without a doubt, a most serious breach of medic ethics.
YOU should be ARRESTED, and charged with medical MALPRACTICE!
WTF are you going on about, if testoterone levels are high, giving men estrogen lowers them...make them emotional and helps them grow boobies...that is why I said you men should get more of them, But you just rant away on some crazy man lunacy...you are a dumb arse Troll. IDIOT.
Guppy

Gadsden, AL

#83926 Dec 6, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
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YOU are a COMPLETE and TOTAL ARSE!
The hormone estrogen, is an stress hormone. When people, both men and woman, are under stress, their bodies produce estrogen, and people under LOTS of stress produce LOTS of estrogen, when eventually leads to body breakdown.
Women undergoing PMS, tend to produce LOTS of estrogen, and as a consequence become psychologically 'unhinged,' evincing all of the traits of someone under stress.
There are several strategies to deal with that physiological hormonal imbalance.
But YOUR statement is, beyond any reasonable doubt, the MOST IRRESPONSIBLE utterance ANYONE could possibly make!
Suggesting that anyone take 'estrogen' has got to be, in my estimation, a MOST CRIMINAL, and without a doubt, a most serious breach of medic ethics.
YOU should be ARRESTED, and charged with medical MALPRACTICE!
Chill out..

How about Vioxx? Do you approve of that?

Unhinged? Are you biased against women?

Since: Feb 11

Sutton, UK

#83927 Dec 6, 2012
Guppy wrote:
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I didn't say WE because I am not one of the Americans that is fearful. I was talking about THEM. You know, the ones who are so fearful that they need to have guns in their homes.
I am 100% American.
I am also realistic.
I don't think everything the Americans do is just fine by me.
Okay, but you will find some places its prudent to be armed for safety.
03.03 am

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#83928 Dec 6, 2012
spider1954 wrote:
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IT IMPLIES,,,Hmmm,,,,interesting, ,,, well using your logic then you would have to agree with me that putting nuts in, or on a fruit cake, makse it a fruit and nut cake, welldone, welldone indeed, I knew you could do it.
I love my family, don't allways like them, anymore than they allways like me,,but I definatley love them,,I would die to protect them, as most of us would,,I am the reason they exist at all, my responsobility for bringing them into the world, my BAG to hold or carry, untill I the day I die.
LOL. You still upset about that fruit cake with nuts in it....you always seem to bring it up?....Don't try to colour the issue with your bullshit and again coming in to support someone else.....what is it with you, are you a troll....cause it seem you never speak for yourself....exception the fruit cake with nuts....you know the argument you got your arse kicked on....rotflmao.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#83929 Dec 6, 2012
Patriot wrote:
Anti-Second Amendment Democrat Arrested With Gun at Chicago’s O’Hare
12/06/12
http://www.infowars.com/anti-second-amendment...
ROTFLMFAO. The American anti gun protesters are so stupid they can't even get what anti gun means.....and just when I think you yanks can't get any thicker....Whoohoo....

Since: Feb 11

Sutton, UK

#83930 Dec 6, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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LOL. You still upset about that fruit cake with nuts in it....you always seem to bring it up?....Don't try to colour the issue with your bullshit and again coming in to support someone else.....what is it with you, are you a troll....cause it seem you never speak for yourself....exception the fruit cake with nuts....you know the argument you got your arse kicked on....rotflmao.
Your logic regarding the other matter made it an ideal time to bring it up again, Im certainly not upset,,should I be ? you were mistaken and that is why you would prefer it if I dropped the matter, your cook book is misleading if the matter were to be considered in law, CHECK it out.
If I happen to agree with someone, then I will support them,,have you not noticed?, YOU have a lack of support, to date. Kicked my arse ?, WHEN was that then pet.
Guppy

Gadsden, AL

#83932 Dec 6, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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If you believe you can get two initials out of Ahomana....you are an uneducated dumb arse
We went to war alongside America, because it was hurting after the hit it took in 911, but they abused our trust and the right to call anyone an ally after they used both Britain and Australia in their ploy to start a war on another country with lies of WMDs, we knew them to have big yaps but to go as far as to lie to an ally...that is a new low even for America.
Don't you worry the next time you think to start a war with anyone Australia will make sure that it gets the truth or you can stand on your own...
Your can be a super power and idiots...you prove it everyday..
You are the fattest nation in the world because you are greedy fat pigs...everything you eat is up sized, next you will be serving babies on stakes to satify your greed.
Not true the aggressor tag came with Iraq....we went in, in a support role long after America, who hasn't been able to win a war since world war 2 and now you are mostly fighting third world countries, which proves the idiocy of your military.....they have the might but not the brains to finish what they start, without the nouse of the Brits and Australians.
Insecurity is always having to prove you are the biggest, fattest, loudest and the best...that is America's insecurity for you in spades, there is not another country in the world that owns that.
Australia is a country I am proud of, as are several other western nations that havent relied on vigilantism to effect their laws, that seek peace with their neighbours and who never reduce to lies to make trouble with a country to attain what they have....we are a country where it's diggers don't murder innocents in countries we are waring with...so when they march they do so with honour.
Next time you get yourself into another war you had better have learned your lessons from the war in Iraq....that allies are called that because of trust based on, you guessed it, honesty!
A. Ho ~ you need to calm yourself down. You'll blow a gasket!

It's still called Due Diligence. Don't you all feel likes fools because you believed a bunch of lies? Now that was pathetic.

I am TOTALLY AGAINST WAR. I think it is sinful.

We can stand on our own? Shrug.

Fat pigs? Do you really think ALL Americans are Fat Pigs? You exaggerate to prove a silly point.

Babies on stakes? Now that is sick. You should be ashamed of yourself. You have a strange mind.

Biggest, fattest and loudest? Why do y'all suck up to us if you don't like us. I can guarantee you ~ most Americans don't even give you a second thought.

You should be proud of your country. I am.

WW2? Did anyone really win? Does anyone ever win? It just ends.

Are you saying ~ you feel your politicians are honest? Smile. If you say Yes ~ I would then have to call you delusional. Get a grip. I have news for you.

How would you know what the diggers are doing in other countries? You know for a fact ~ they have NEVER killed an innocent person. If you say Yes, again ~ you are beyond delusional. I will know that you are a liar.

I truly think the top military guys are quite bright. Not too bright with certain women, but...

FYI ~ Not All Americans Want To Go To War. Horrible waste of lives and money. You must agree with that.

Awaiting your reply. If you dare.
Dr Freud

Netherlands

#83933 Dec 6, 2012
spider1954 wrote:
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Its the same here, they cannot and do not make the jury aware of the accused's past record, however the press is another matter,,,they print all they can find, and what they cant find, they invent.
"... they print all they can find, and what they cant find, they invent."

But such is libel, is it not?
Does not the U.K. have laws against that, especially in criminal cases?

Since: Feb 11

Sutton, UK

#83934 Dec 6, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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You shouldn't be obtuse Teaman it doesn't suit you.....Zimmerman was identifying himself as a white man by the privilage money had assured him, else he would live like most white hispanics ...not in a gated, middle class, predominantly white community, his community (white hispanic) would envy him but class him as a sell out.
Sooo,,,you think we should be segregated ? any particular reason ? are you not accepted by a particular people ? are you angry about it ? cause it seems you are pet.
Guppy

Gadsden, AL

#83935 Dec 6, 2012
spider1954 wrote:
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Okay, but you will find some places its prudent to be armed for safety.
03.03 am
Holy Cow! How do you stay awake half the night?

No, not prudent to be armed for safety. Haven't felt the need, so far.

If I didn't buy a gun four years ago ~ I'm sure not going to buy one now.
Anonymous

Atlanta, GA

#83936 Dec 6, 2012
Keep peace .Enjoy life .http://www.asextoys.com

Since: Feb 11

Sutton, UK

#83937 Dec 6, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
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"... they print all they can find, and what they cant find, they invent."
But such is libel, is it not?
Does not the U.K. have laws against that, especially in criminal cases?
Yes, it is libel, and the tabloids do wind up in court and often pay heavy fines. An interesting case some years back, was the one between Elton John and the Sun news paper,,,the Sun reported that Elton was gay,so he sued them and WON, to the best of my knowledge he has not returned the considerable damages he was awarded.:-)

Since: Feb 11

Sutton, UK

#83939 Dec 6, 2012
Guppy wrote:
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Holy Cow! How do you stay awake half the night?
No, not prudent to be armed for safety. Haven't felt the need, so far.
If I didn't buy a gun four years ago ~ I'm sure not going to buy one now.
I will admitt not requiring much in the way of sleep is'nt the norm, however I find it odd that some require so much. I like to keep busy.

You didnt buy one four years ago ? are you talking about riots or something else ?.
Guppy

Gadsden, AL

#83940 Dec 6, 2012
I don't think anyone will touch THAT with a ten foot pole.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#83941 Dec 6, 2012
spider1954 wrote:
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Are you trying to suggest that a CCP permit means you hold the gun whilst your hand is in your pocket,, to brandish the weapon would mean it was not concealed.
Nope, but I am sugesting he most likely had the weapon on him when he left the car....

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#83943 Dec 6, 2012
spider1954 wrote:
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Sooo,,,you think we should be segregated ? any particular reason ? are you not accepted by a particular people ? are you angry about it ? cause it seems you are pet.
No, but you obviously do think we should be segregated...or am I making that up because I didn't comprehend the message, similar to what you just did. Talk about the media printing falsehoods... you are a bit of a hypochrite...dummy.
Dr Freud

Netherlands

#83944 Dec 6, 2012
Guppy wrote:
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9,000 people were murdered by Guns in one year! That is the bottom line. You can moan and groan, but it doesn't change the facts.
Ban guns
Look at the UK and Japan/no guns = no deaths. Very few deaths. Why are the American's so fearful and the rest of the world is not.
NAME just ONE gun, i.e., make, model, and serial number, which murdered anyone, or anything.
GOT DATA?

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#83945 Dec 6, 2012
spider1954 wrote:
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Your logic regarding the other matter made it an ideal time to bring it up again, Im certainly not upset,,should I be ? you were mistaken and that is why you would prefer it if I dropped the matter, your cook book is misleading if the matter were to be considered in law, CHECK it out.
If I happen to agree with someone, then I will support them,,have you not noticed?, YOU have a lack of support, to date. Kicked my arse ?, WHEN was that then pet.
Who says a cookbook is law...if that were the case there would never be variations on recipe's and the biggest joke is on you because that recipe from the CWA cook book the Australian cook book bible....is from women who hailed from......you guessed it...England...haha.

Since: Feb 11

Sutton, UK

#83946 Dec 6, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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No, but you obviously do think we should be segregated...or am I making that up because I didn't comprehend the message, similar to what you just did. Talk about the media printing falsehoods... you are a bit of a hypochrite...dummy.
I see no reason to be segregated, it was you that implied Zimmerman was living in the wrong area. I made nothing up, it is yourself that is doing that,,the dummy is all yours pet.

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