It's the Guns, Stupid

It's the Guns, Stupid

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Woodville, Australia

#79074 Oct 7, 2012
for language..no..you don't need know any language..no any diploma no no no

when day come
you will say
sea and mountain cover up us
Kamal

Vijayawada, India

#79075 Oct 7, 2012
raha tha maine dhire se papa ka ling pakra to papajage huwe the papa ne phat se
Tray

Kilmichael, MS

#79076 Oct 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes you are a super power (at the moment as such things are so fleeting,) and that makes you succeptable to corruption and this is being proved daily as you are showing all the classic signs of the past super powers, arrogance, elitism, greed, bullying etc... you like most superpowers are trying to run roughshod over the rest of the world and you have no idea what you are doing, none. What you are doing, is creating absolute chaos, you go into a war with the arab nations which noone can win, you are trying to make everyone over into little America like Britain and Germany tried to do....and you WILL fail like all the others have done because your greed has seen China and India and Russia gain strength and more likely if they join forces, you will be fooked. You are the most inexperienced and less deserving super power of them all.
Are you a little jealous? You are like the guy in the men's room, you look over to see the guy next to you is swinging 3x as much meat as you but you comment on how ugly his shoes are. You are right about one thing, the U.S. will fail eventually. When the freedoms of the people are lost and the government gets too top heavy the failure is eminent. History shows when the freedoms are oppressed the ability to thrive stops and slowly oppression chokes off the life blood of a great country. Even the Great Rome fell. But not today. Today we are still the greatest super power the world has ever know.
Tray

Kilmichael, MS

#79077 Oct 8, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
Before you get too prideful, you should know that it is the British bankers who RUN the U.S., and such has been the case for longer than you'd care know about.
I'm not trying to diss you, rather what I'm pointing out is something not many Americans even guess about.
The multinational bankers like it that they can effectively pull your strings, and you won't even know who's doing the pulling.
Since our success benefits them and our failure cost them their investments then it is in their best interest to ensure we succeed.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#79078 Oct 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
I think out of the two of them it is better to keep the one you have till something better presents itself and Romney is definately not it....
Love the pics, mind I believe any pics taken of us in our youth would give us all a good laugh now.:)
You sound like what I like to call a "Colorado fisherman".
You catch a fish you are not impressed with, so you put it on the stringer and keep fishing until you catch a bigger better one. The problem with that is, it is illegal to do.

DISCLAIMER: I like Greenies (a name given to Colorado residents as their license plates are/were green) and the above comments concerning the fishing prowess of folks from, Colorado, is solely based on observing two such fishermen from Colorado. In no way am I saying that all fishermen from Colorado are such idiots.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#79079 Oct 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
I think out of the two of them it is better to keep the one you have till something better presents itself and Romney is definately not it....
Love the pics, mind I believe any pics taken of us in our youth would give us all a good laugh now.:)
You especially liked the one where BO is smoking a J huh.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#79080 Oct 8, 2012
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have any great love for Romney. I think he is going to be just another big government establishment Republican or RINO, if you will. There isn't much difference between the two parties from my perspective. Most of his support is anti Obama support.
Obama is full of the Sustainable Initiative, social justice, anti colonialist mentality, doesn't have an understanding of economics, and just plain naive. Anti colonialism is why you have immigrants pouring into your country and feeding off of the system.
Romney did promise to move this federal control of the medical system to the states with block grants instead of federal manipulation. There are a few other things. He is simply the opposite of Obama.
"He is simply the opposite of Obama."?

Surely you jest.
He is not the opposite. He is more like a jar of mild as verses a bottle of hot salsa. They are both hot sauce and caustic to this free republic. It's just that the one is hotter than the other and the burning that is inevitable from either, is only a matter of time, and how long you keep either in your mouth before you spit them out as distasteful.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#79081 Oct 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
We have the same problem with refugees here, I am wondering if this is more than Gillard or Obama...and the major parties are so much alike the only time you can tell them apart is the hair colour of their leaders, neither have any decent policies to speak of and they are all for bringing in more refugees at a huge cost to the tax payer while Australian pensioners are turning to petty theivery to survive...They have given away fist fulls of our money to foreign countries the IMF World bank and the UN that do nothing but help support governments that use it to strengthen their military to suppress and murder their own people, so it would be a fine chance if we had another option instead of the same twats that are killing of manufacturing and decent wages by importing foreign workers...in short if we keep the status quo, we are in deep shite.
With Romney vs Obama they are both cut from the same cloth what you gain with one you lose with the other and vice versa, so why change the government when it won't work in your favour for change, unless you want a holiday, and they say change is just as good!
"I am wondering if this is more than Gillard or Obama"

Gee do ya think? Puppets have strings, and therefore puppeteers pulling those strings ya know.

"in short if we keep the status quo, we are in deep shite."

Interesting.
You keep telling us just how wonderful things are down under, and that your way and brand of socialism and fascism is all the rage of late.
Interesting indeed.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#79082 Oct 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
The New World order!
Yeah?
What about it?
Tray

Kilmichael, MS

#79083 Oct 8, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
"He is simply the opposite of Obama."?
Surely you jest.
He is not the opposite. He is more like a jar of mild as verses a bottle of hot salsa. They are both hot sauce and caustic to this free republic. It's just that the one is hotter than the other and the burning that is inevitable from either, is only a matter of time, and how long you keep either in your mouth before you spit them out as distasteful.
Great post.

Since: Jan 11

Abingdon, VA

#79084 Oct 8, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
"He is simply the opposite of Obama."?
Surely you jest.
He is not the opposite. He is more like a jar of mild as verses a bottle of hot salsa. They are both hot sauce and caustic to this free republic. It's just that the one is hotter than the other and the burning that is inevitable from either, is only a matter of time, and how long you keep either in your mouth before you spit them out as distasteful.
LOL, Good one. With the choice we have, I'll take mild over hot.:-)
I did say there is little difference between both of these parties. Maybe opposite was a poor choice of words. I really don't know if Romney buys into this Sustainable Initiative that incorporates global social justice through environmentalism. But, it's anyone's guess.
Tray

Kilmichael, MS

#79085 Oct 8, 2012
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, Good one. With the choice we have, I'll take mild over hot.:-)
I did say there is little difference between both of these parties. Maybe opposite was a poor choice of words. I really don't know if Romney buys into this Sustainable Initiative that incorporates global social justice through environmentalism. But, it's anyone's guess.
He's a politician = crook. Duh.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#79086 Oct 8, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
"He is simply the opposite of Obama."?
Surely you jest.
He is not the opposite. He is more like a jar of mild as verses a bottle of hot salsa. They are both hot sauce and caustic to this free republic. It's just that the one is hotter than the other and the burning that is inevitable from either, is only a matter of time, and how long you keep either in your mouth before you spit them out as distasteful.
Are you being a Colorado fisherman there?
Dan

Osaka, Japan

#79087 Oct 8, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you being a Colorado fisherman there?
Don't you get tired of playing the smartass?

Seems like it hasn't gotten you far.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#79088 Oct 8, 2012
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you get tired of playing the smartass?
Seems like it hasn't gotten you far.
Arighty then? so it seems it is alright for Aquarius to make a smartass comment to me first (I might add,) but it is not alright for me to do likewise....love your double standards there Dan?
Dr Freud

Copenhagen, Denmark

#79089 Oct 8, 2012
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, Good one. With the choice we have, I'll take mild over hot.:-)
I did say there is little difference between both of these parties. Maybe opposite was a poor choice of words. I really don't know if Romney buys into this Sustainable Initiative that incorporates global social justice through environmentalism. But, it's anyone's guess.
Old saying: Follow the money.
Both Obamney and Rombama get their funding from the very same sources: The Wall Street multinational bankers.
Who funds Obama?
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php...
Who funds Romney?
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php...

Since: Jan 11

Abingdon, VA

#79090 Oct 8, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
Old saying: Follow the money.
Both Obamney and Rombama get their funding from the very same sources: The Wall Street multinational bankers.
Who funds Obama?
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php...
Who funds Romney?
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php...
Yes, I know. One of Obama's biggest campaign donor bundlers is Jonathan Lavine who was running Bain Capital when the infamous steel plant closed.

Obama got quite a bit of Wall St. money last election. A less this time. The same people are donating to Romney. Both these parties are the same and answer to the same people.

Dr Freud

Copenhagen, Denmark

#79091 Oct 8, 2012
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I know. One of Obama's biggest campaign donor bundlers is Jonathan Lavine who was running Bain Capital when the infamous steel plant closed.
Obama got quite a bit of Wall St. money last election. A less this time. The same people are donating to Romney. Both these parties are the same and answer to the same people.
The really sad part is that many Americans will vote for 'more of the same,' instead of thinking outside the box, and making a better choice.
On the Obama side of the coin, they'll vote for continuation of their welfare checks and food stamps.
On the Romney side of the coin, they'll continue to fall for the same 'conservative mantra' which hasn't been followed since Ike was in office.
As a general rule, I'm never in favor of radical change, but in the current sense of what's happening in the U.S., and by extension the rest of the world, then almost any move to extricate yourselves from the grip of the fascist oligarchs is tantamount.
What's needed is a significant change in the political thinking of Americans, away from government dependency, away from military adventurism, and away from world hegemony. That same applies to almost every European nation as well.
A first move, more momentous than any other, would be to 'dump' your 'Federal Reserve' and repudiate the debt totally.
Go back to your treasury issuing all of your money, and NOT borrow anything from any private bank or other external entity.
In fact, private banks (not credit unions) should be outlawed, right along with corporations.

Since: Jan 11

Abingdon, VA

#79092 Oct 8, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
The really sad part is that many Americans will vote for 'more of the same,' instead of thinking outside the box, and making a better choice.
On the Obama side of the coin, they'll vote for continuation of their welfare checks and food stamps.
On the Romney side of the coin, they'll continue to fall for the same 'conservative mantra' which hasn't been followed since Ike was in office.
As a general rule, I'm never in favor of radical change, but in the current sense of what's happening in the U.S., and by extension the rest of the world, then almost any move to extricate yourselves from the grip of the fascist oligarchs is tantamount.
What's needed is a significant change in the political thinking of Americans, away from government dependency, away from military adventurism, and away from world hegemony. That same applies to almost every European nation as well.
A first move, more momentous than any other, would be to 'dump' your 'Federal Reserve' and repudiate the debt totally.
Go back to your treasury issuing all of your money, and NOT borrow anything from any private bank or other external entity.
In fact, private banks (not credit unions) should be outlawed, right along with corporations.
Yea, Eisenhower was the last conservative or republican for that matter. Nixon destroyed that party.

I was always for getting rid of the federal reserve. That would be a monumental feat. Ron Paul, with a lot of backing, couldn't even get an audit.

The founders had the banks and businesses state chartered for a reason. I don't think they intended the banks to be as large as they are.

Get ready for what's coming down the pike. The three pillars of sustainability through environmental global social justice under the UN blanket. Agenda 21. Your world government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainability

The UN globally taxing rich nations to distribute to poorer ones.
It only takes a senate approval of a treaty.
http://rt.com/usa/news/un-global-tax-carbon-2...

I really don't know if Romney would go along with these agendas. It's anyone guess. I know Obama will due to his anti colonialist beliefs.
Dr Freud

Copenhagen, Denmark

#79093 Oct 9, 2012
Teaman wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea, Eisenhower was the last conservative or republican for that matter. Nixon destroyed that party.
I was always for getting rid of the federal reserve. That would be a monumental feat. Ron Paul, with a lot of backing, couldn't even get an audit.
The founders had the banks and businesses state chartered for a reason. I don't think they intended the banks to be as large as they are.
Get ready for what's coming down the pike. The three pillars of sustainability through environmental global social justice under the UN blanket. Agenda 21. Your world government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainability
The UN globally taxing rich nations to distribute to poorer ones.
It only takes a senate approval of a treaty.
http://rt.com/usa/news/un-global-tax-carbon-2...
I really don't know if Romney would go along with these agendas. It's anyone guess. I know Obama will due to his anti colonialist beliefs.
Just two things: No matter which of those two is the next president, it won't matter at all. Both of them are 'front men.'
Next, you speak of 'anti colonialist' beliefs.
The standard definition of 'colonialism' is: "the policy or practice of acquiring full or partial political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, and exploiting it economically."
Surely you don't subscribe to such a policy, do you?
Remember that the U.S. was once subject to such, and it eventually lead to your revolution.

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