It's the Guns, Stupid

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

[amazed]

Some idiotic nra member said it wouldnt have happened if all the students had guns. Try tell me that aint brainless.

[Rudedog]

I am amazed your even smart enough to type a coherent sentence. Ever hear of a slaughter like this one at a gun show? Ever wonder why these scumbags attack schools and other gun free zones? Its because no one will stop them. What better place to go on a killing spree than a gun free zone? Its people like you that curl up in the corner crying for help. Grow a pair and stand up for your self.

[Fastercat]

Guns cause mass killings in the same way
-Golden arches cause heart disease
-cigar cutters cause gum disease
-sex causes abortions
-90210 causes conspiracy theories
-spoons cause obesity < 1 exception = Rosie>
-cameras cause pornography
-matches cause arson
-cars cause drunk driving
-White House interns cause infidelity
-...

[Pessimist]

I’ve started to think it’s not guns it’s just Americans.

[George H]

Pessimist wrote:

I’ve started to think it’s not guns it’s just Americans.

Maybe, but at least we are not prisoners of mother england, we used our guns to throw that yoke off.

[George H]

amazed wrote:

Some idiotic nra member said it wouldnt have happened if all the students had guns. Try tell me that aint brainless.

Yeah, and how is the crime rate you your country. Since you took the guns away from your citizens it has skyrocketed, so don't preach.

[Pessimist]

George H wrote:

<quoted text>Maybe, but at least we are not prisoners of mother england, we used our guns to throw that yoke off.

Please explain how we are prisoners of “mother England”.

[GIHouse]

A crucial factor emerging from the massacre is that all rage killings are committed by victims of bullying. They either lash out or commit suicide and or both. In some cases, it involves a programme of social coercion of targeted students into ideal dispositions, usually brainwashing nerdy students to change their beliefs. Sometimes the social engineers (doctors, psychologists, at schools) overdo it and students end up psychologically damaged. It is where students seek refuge in mental institutions from experimental evil psychologists.

Also, the rise of material promotion over social values has transformed the soul into a material possession that has turned family members into selfish individuals. It is typical of the Western progressive civilisation.

[USmotto]

amazed wrote:

Some idiotic nra member said it wouldnt have happened if all the students had guns. Try tell me that aint brainless.

According to Interpol, Australia is the leading nation in crime of Western, industialized nations. The UK is second

[Pessimist]

George H wrote:

<quoted text>Yeah, and how is the crime rate you your country. Since you took the guns away from your citizens it has skyrocketed, so don't preach.

Australia has much lower violent crime rates (and have been slowly declining for years) than America and our murder rate has dropped since gun control, and we didn’t have to lock up the highest percentage of our population in the world to do it, unlike America.

[Pessimist]

USmotto wrote:

<quoted text>
According to Interpol, Australia is the leading nation in crime of Western, industialized nations. The UK is second

Please give us some figures.

[Pessimist]

GIHouse wrote:

A crucial factor emerging from the massacre is that all rage killings are committed by victims of bullying. They either lash out or commit suicide and or both. In some cases, it involves a programme of social coercion of targeted students into ideal dispositions, usually brainwashing nerdy students to change their beliefs. Sometimes the social engineers (doctors, psychologists, at schools) overdo it and students end up psychologically damaged. It is where students seek refuge in mental institutions from experimental evil psychologists.
Also, the rise of material promotion over social values has transformed the soul into a material possession that has turned family members into selfish individuals. It is typical of the Western progressive civilisation.

I largely agree.

[George H]

Pessimist wrote:

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Please explain how we are prisoners of “mother England”.

Look at your currency, we don't have pictures of the queen on ours now do we

[Pessimist]

George H wrote:

<quoted text>Look at your currency, we don't have pictures of the queen on ours now do we

How does having the Queens head on our coins make us “prisoners” have you nothing better than that?

[George H]

Don't need more then that, your dependant on england, you whine about your immigration, your taxes are way to high, that is why your gov't took your guns away, they were afraid you would revolt. That is why you call each other "mate"...it is short for "inmate" you started as a prision colony and unfortunatly you still are.

[oriana]

AS FOR THE European disdain for our criminal culture, many of those countries should not spend too much time congratulating themselves.

In 2000, the rate at which people were robbed or assaulted was higher in England, Scotland, Finland, Poland, Denmark and Sweden than it was in the United States.

The assault rate in England was twice that in the United States.

In the decade since England banned all private possession of handguns, the BBC reported that the number of gun crimes has gone up sharply.

Some of the worst examples of mass gun violence have also occurred in Europe.

In recent years, 17 students and teachers were killed by a shooter in one incident at a German public school; 14 legislators were shot to death in Switzerland, and eight city council members were shot to death near Paris.

[oriana]

Pessimist wrote:

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How does having the Queens head on our coins make us “prisoners” have you nothing better than that?

It makes you a colony of the UK... just like canada.

[Colonel Jessup]

We don't need gun control, we need people control.

I was watching Chris Rock stand up once, and he said "we don't need gun control, we need BULLET control. Every bullet should cost 5000 dollars! If bullets cost 5000 dollars, there would be no innocent bystanders."

I thought it was hilarious.

[George H]

oriana wrote:

AS FOR THE European disdain for our criminal culture, many of those countries should not spend too much time congratulating themselves.
In 2000, the rate at which people were robbed or assaulted was higher in England, Scotland, Finland, Poland, Denmark and Sweden than it was in the United States.
The assault rate in England was twice that in the United States.
In the decade since England banned all private possession of handguns, the BBC reported that the number of gun crimes has gone up sharply.
Some of the worst examples of mass gun violence have also occurred in Europe.
In recent years, 17 students and teachers were killed by a shooter in one incident at a German public school; 14 legislators were shot to death in Switzerland, and eight city council members were shot to death near Paris.

You go girl!!!! give them both barrels

[Pessimist]

George H wrote:

Don't need more then that, your dependant on england, you whine about your immigration, your taxes are way to high, that is why your gov't took your guns away, they were afraid you would revolt. That is why you call each other "mate"...it is short for "inmate" you started as a prision colony and unfortunatly you still are.

In what possible way do we depend on England? Because I really cannot see how.
We value the good hardworking immigrants we have been lucky to have chosen to live here and become Australians and have benefited greatly from their contributions, many believe it is time to reign in the numbers coming here but only to preserve our environment and way of life, what whining?

Our tax rates are reasonable and combined with an excellent average wage we have no complaints.
We voted largely on the basis of gun reform, where do you get this revolt idea from?

America is the new inmate country, you incarcerate the largest percentage of your population, not even communist countries with re-education camps lock up as many; perhaps you should read up on American history the British transported many convicts to America, the difference is we don’t hide our history, and see nothing wrong with our ancestors steeling bread to stave off starvation.

Basically you have no idea what you are talking about.