Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Full Story

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#806575 Nov 16, 2012
Nuculur option wrote:
Funny how Carol always has to go back to 'work' whenever i show up.
41 minutes ago, I answered one of her posts.
She hasn't posted since then.
Coincidence?? I think not.
She can't answer when challenenged on her lies and ignorance, so only observes when I come online.
Because I destroy her bullshit in a way she has no way to come back from.
So, like the chickenshit she is, she keeps her fat fingers off the keyboard until I leave!!
She's lucky I only show up on occasion.
"carol"
Please continue to make "nutsucker" and others look like the liars and phonies they are. You are good at pointing out their idiocy.
I just love it, they claim they ran you off, not realizing there are things in your life a bit more important than topix. I have to say I do not agree with all you post but you are honest. You do not rely on nasty language, slurring and demeaning.
Peace
Trevanian

Waterbury, CT

#806576 Nov 16, 2012
In February 1895 President Grover Cleveland was forced to strike a deal with J.P. Morgan which saved the United States Gold Reserves. At the time the United States was in the midst of a terrible depression and Cleveland's popularity was rapidly dwindling. Cleveland had continued to support the traditional gold standard while his party gradually jumped ship and merged with the Populist, bimetallic platform.

Understanding the crisis that the nation would undergo if the United States gold reserves disappeared, J.P. Morgan, magnate/financier, offered to help the government. Morgan (with a profit clearly in mind) offered to form a syndicate (headed by himself) which would buy bonds from the United States in exchange for 62 million dollars worth of European gold. Cleveland, unable to see an alternative, and realizing that it would be a matter of days before the gold reserves disappeared completely, agreed to the plan, and organized the bond sale. With the deal settled, the dollar managed to recover some of its value, and Cleveland could rest easy, knowing that the gold reserves were safe.

However, when news of this deal broke, public opinion turned against Cleveland even more than before. Most people ignored the fact that Cleveland had saved the United States' gold reserves. When people learned how profitable the deal turned out to be for the banks, who had immediately resold the bonds at marked-up rates, more contempt confronted Cleveland. There were even rumors that he had profited personally from the deal. The issue only helped to accelerate the decline of the Gold Democrats.
Trevanian

Waterbury, CT

#806577 Nov 16, 2012
Populists jumped all over the issue, shouting that it was yet another example of Washington being in league with the international banks and Wall Street. To the Populists it was the perfect example of a conspiracy against the common man. There was an Anti Semitic thread to their argument as Populists railed against the Rothschilds House (a bank which was a member of the syndicate) as the source of the conspiracy, trying to suggest that Washington and Wall Street were in the hands of the Jewish banking houses of England, and that soon all of America would be as well.

Cleveland stood quietly by, trying to maintain his dignity as the public condemned the only decision he could have made given the circumstances. He and the few remaining Gold Democrats watched as even more of their party ran to the bimetallic platform, and waited silently, through the 1896 election, to see what the fate of their party would be.

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#806578 Nov 16, 2012
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Good morning Oil Can. No, I did not take your Pez dispenser. Why did you break the tips off all my pencils again?
"Peppy"
"homo's" nickname is "Peewee" I am sure you can divine the reason for that name. Or maybe "homo's" nickname is "Scooter" because he is always dragging his butt around. Or maybe "homo's" nickname is "Turd" because he is one.
Peace
dem

Chicago, IL

#806579 Nov 16, 2012
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
<quoted text>Gets tiresome and wearisome on the good folks willing to do so, sometimes, doesn't it.

Why BALANCE is a good thing!
The warrior never tires of the battle.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#806580 Nov 16, 2012
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
When is someone going to explain how DC, although in VA, of the USA is actually it's own entity, to the likes of Hamas, Hezbollah, the PLO and other birds of a feather, that don't quite "get" HOW DEMOCRACY WORKS, so that Israel can see acknowledgement and peace for Jerusalem all the while allowing a peaceful existence for Tel Aviv as well?
As soon as the Zionists leave the land they stole from the natives, who we call Palestinians, there will be peace.

The Jews came from Europe, let them go back to Poland, Russia, wherever. Jews largely abandoned the Middle East centuries ago, and muslims took over. Including Jerusalem.

Stealing land is not forgotten. The Jews are badly outnumbered, and America grows weaker..........

Their future is dismal. As is yours.
Trevanian

Waterbury, CT

#806581 Nov 16, 2012
"There was no longer any common ground for understanding between the silver and gold forces; and the agrarian regions were suffering too keenly to reason calmly. Bryan, denouncing the sale in the House, had the clerk first read Shylock's bond. The World declared that the syndicate was composed of bloodsucking Jews and aliens.[...]. By hundreds of thousands, hard handed Americans believed that Cleveland and Carlisle [Cleveland's Secretary of Treasury] had sold the credit of the republic to the Morgans and the Rothchilds, and had pocketed a share of the price. Their vituperative anger was additional evidence of a sectional and class bitterness that now made even armed revolution seem far from impossible. But Cleveland... was unmoved by abuse when he felt he had done right." Allan Nevins, from Grover Cleveland: A Study in Courage (p.665-666).

"...the blame lay upon the President. If he had saved the gold standard, he had not saved the country. But he never regretted his action. Years after his retirement, he said so. By that time no one was likely to accuse him of profiting from the deal himself, but he was still not forgiven for allowing the financiers to profit or for holding to gold when easy money was about to be achieved." Rexford G. Tugwell, from Grover Cleveland (p.259).

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#806582 Nov 16, 2012
Waxman wrote:
<quoted text>
Moron. Moonbat is a slang for a liberal, idiot. You call me a liberal, and I'll slap your ars silly, libturd.
Moonbat is slang for lunatic.

It suits you well, Moonbat!!
Trevanian

Waterbury, CT

#806583 Nov 16, 2012
The presidential election exposed the liberal class as a corpse. It fights for nothing. It stands for nothing. It is a useless appendage to the corporate state. It exists not to make possible incremental or piecemeal reform, as it originally did in a functional capitalist democracy; instead it has devolved into an instrument of personal vanity, burnishing the hollow morality of its adherents. Liberals, by voting for Barack Obama, betrayed the core values they use to define themselves—the rule of law, the safeguarding of civil liberties, the protection of unions, the preservation of social welfare programs, environmental accords, financial regulation, a defiance of unjust war and torture, and the abolition of drone wars. The liberal class clung desperately during the long nightmare of this political campaign to one or two issues, such as protecting a woman’s right to choose and gender equality, to justify its complicity in a monstrous evil. This moral fragmentation—using an isolated act of justice to define one’s self while ignoring the vast corporate assault on the nation and the ecosystem along with the pre-emptive violence of the imperial state—is moral and political capitulation. It fails to confront the evil we have become.
“The American Dream has run out of gas,” wrote the novelist J.G. Ballard.“The car has stopped. It no longer supplies the world with its images, its dreams, its fantasies. No more. It’s over. It supplies the world with its nightmares now.…”
Liberals have assured us that after the election they will build a movement to hold the president accountable—although how or when or what this movement will look like they cannot say. They didn’t hold him accountable during his first term. They won’t during his second. They have played their appointed roles in the bankrupt political theater that passes for electoral politics. They have wrung their hands, sung like a Greek chorus about the evils of the perfidious opponent, assured us that there is no other viable option, and now they will exit the stage. They will carp and whine in the wings until they are trotted out again to assume their role in the next political propaganda campaign of disempowerment and fear. They will, in the meantime, become the butt of ridicule and derision by the very politicians they supported.
Trevanian

Waterbury, CT

#806584 Nov 16, 2012
The ineffectiveness of the liberal class, as I saw in the former Yugoslavia and as was true in Weimar Germany, perpetuates a dangerous political paralysis. The longer the paralysis continues, the longer systems of power are unable to address the suffering and grievances of the masses, the more the formal mechanisms of power are reviled. The liberal establishment’s inability to defy corporate power, to stand up for its supposed liberal beliefs, means its inevitable disappearance, along with the disappearance of traditional liberal values. This, as history has amply pointed out, is the road to despotism. And we are further down that road than many care to admit.
Any mass movement that arises—and I believe one is coming—will be fueled, like the Occupy movement, by radicals who have as deep a revulsion for Democrats as they do for Republicans. The radicals who triumph, however, may not be progressive. Populist movements, from labor unions to an independent press to socialist third parties, have been destroyed in the United States. A protofascist movement that coalesces around a mystical nationalism, that fuses the symbols of the country with those of Christianity, that denigrates reason and elevates mass emotions will have broad appeal. It will offer to followers a leap from the deep pit of despair and frustration to the heights of utopia. It will speak in the language of violence and demonize the vulnerable, from undocumented workers to homosexuals to people of color to liberals to the poor. And this force, financed by the most retrograde elements of corporate capitalism, could usher in a species of corporate fascism in a period of economic or environmental instability.
The historian Fritz Stern in “The Politics of Cultural Despair,” his book on the rise of fascism in Germany, warns repeatedly of the danger of a bankrupt liberalism. Stern, who sees the same dark, irrational forces at work today that he watched as a boy in Nazi Germany, argues that the spiritually and politically alienated are the prime recruits for a politics centered around cultural hatreds and personal resentments.

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#806585 Nov 16, 2012
dem wrote:
<quoted text>
Liar.
They can't give outdated food away due to liability.
"dim"
As usual you are wrong!!!! No surprize. A couple of times a week I visit some are supermarkets and pickup their outdated bakery products and drop it off at 2nd. Harvest an organization that provides food stuffs for the hungry. They have never been sued. Just once think before you lie.
Peace
KMA
Trevanian

Waterbury, CT

#806586 Nov 16, 2012
The oppressor, blind to the brutality and injustice meted out to sustain dominance and prosperity, escalates the levels of force employed to protect privilege. The crimes of the oppressor are seen among the elite as the administering of justice—law and order, the war on terror, the natural law of globalization, the right granted by privilege and power to shape and govern the world. The oppressor cannot see the West’s false humanism. The oppressor cannot, as James Baldwin wrote, understand that our “history has no moral justification, and the West has no moral authority.” The oppressor, able to speak only in the language of force and increasingly lashing out like a wounded animal, will be consumed in the inferno.
“People who shut their eyes to reality simply invite their own destruction,” Baldwin wrote,“and anyone who insists on remaining in a state of innocence long after that innocence is dead turns himself into a monster.
brown eyes

Roanoke, VA

#806587 Nov 16, 2012
The Ballad of George W. Bush.
Come and listen to a story bout a boy named Bush,
His IQ was zero, and his head was up his tush.
He drank like a fish while he drove all about,
But that didn't matter 'cuz his daddy bailed him out.
DUI that is. Criminal record cover-up.
Well the first thing you know little George goes to Yale.
He can't spell his name but they never let him fail.
He spends all his time hangin' out with student folk
and that's when he learns how to snort a line of coke.
Blow that is. White gold. Nose candy.
The next thing you know there's a war in Vietnam.
Kin folks say, "George, stay at home with Mom."
Let the common folk get maimed and scarred,
We'll buy you a spot in the Texas Air Guard.
Cushy, that is. Country clubs. Nose Candy.
Twenty years later George gets a little bored,
He trades in the booze, says that Jesus is his Lord.
He said," Now the White House is the place I wanna be,"
So he called his daddy's friends and they called the GOP.
Gun owners, that is. Falwell, Jesse Helms.
Come November 7 2000 the election ran late.
Kin Folk said "Jeb give the boy your state!"
Don't let those colored folks get into the polls.
So they put up barricades so they couldn't punch their holes.
Chads that is. Duval County, Miami Dade.
Before the votes were counted Five Supremes stepped
in,
Told all the voters,"Hey, we want George to win."
Stop counting votes!" was their solemn inocation,
And that's how George finally got his coronation.
Rigged that is, illegitimate. No moral authority.
THE BUSH/CHENEY HALIBURTONS!
One for all all for one

Bethlehem, PA

#806588 Nov 16, 2012
Orangelion wrote:
<quoted text>
No, actually the fact that they use condoms means they would vouch for their mistake, since they just misusded condoms, thats all, if the teen is raised a child to have many talks, starting at 6, instead of having to have that talk at 6, but instead they were raised to understand their responsibility, they wouldn't have sex and would instead have no excuse to make this, "mistake". You don't have the talk with your teenager when he turns 13, you start when he's much younger, while it may be a tough run to opt out of birth control at first, parents will just have to stick by, but in the long run it will help much more. Teenagers are given less responsiblilty with these birth control methods being sticked in their as excuses, and especially as abortion being the excuse.
Seriously, you would talk to a 6 year old child about sex? I don't think so. Condoms are not vouching for a mistake; it is helping to prevent one. A mistake that could result in hardship, expense and ruined lives. It's a different world. There are much more people in it. Resources are dwindling. Yes, people do need to take responsibility for there actions, and that is the parents role. No parent can predict what their child will do. All they can do is educate that child to the best of their ability and teach them what one moment of passion can do. It's important for a parent to gain that child's trust so that if that child feels out of control, he can feel secure in confiding with that parent/parents. Most teens will not abstain from sex, but there will be some who will. The point is, the option should be there for them. It's the only way to help reduce teen pregnancies. It seems that some kids are getting the idea of how teen pregnancy can ruin their lives, but these are kids who very likely had common sense to begin with. Unfortunately, many do not. I'm not advocating teen sex in any way. I'm just saying that simply telling a teen not to, isn't going to work for most kids. It's like when Nancy Reagan said, "Just say no to drugs.", which didn't work. You can raise a child well and with all of the best intentions, but the fact is, that hasn't stopped teens from having sex. I agree though that it happens more in homes where good parenting is lacking. I would rather my teen have access to condoms, then have him/her afraid to come to me for guidance or help, particularly when it's too late.
krissy

Tacoma, WA

#806589 Nov 16, 2012
Errr...WTF is Trevanian babbling about? This is Topix! Who's got time to read that wall of text?

Cliff Notes please!
krissy

Tacoma, WA

#806590 Nov 16, 2012
What happened to that guy who used to say "America gets it" all the time?
dem

Chicago, IL

#806591 Nov 16, 2012
EasyEed wrote:
<quoted text>"dim"
As usual you are wrong!!!! No surprize. A couple of times a week I visit some are supermarkets and pickup their outdated bakery products and drop it off at 2nd. Harvest an organization that provides food stuffs for the hungry. They have never been sued. Just once think before you lie.
Peace
KMA
Better check your coverage to see if it covers you for killing someone with spoiled food

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#806592 Nov 16, 2012
EasyEed wrote:
<quoted text>
"leosampleanus"
BULLMANURE!!!!!!
For my part I am not going to return my home to the provider. I paid for it, it's mine not the governments. My kids can decide what to do with it. My investments are mine, again the kids will decide how they will be used, not the government. My assets are mine and will not be returned to the provider. Of course the government will tax theshit out those assets but in your world, the world of the taker that is as it should be.
Peace
KMA
So you're not collecting Social Security and Medicare??

You're the leech on society, Ed.

As much as anyone else is.

You're exactly what you accuse others of.

Look in the mirror, ya freakin' hypocrite!!
dem

Chicago, IL

#806593 Nov 16, 2012
krissy wrote:
Errr...WTF is Trevanian babbling about? This is Topix! Who's got time to read that wall of text?

Cliff Notes please!
That's what I tried telling him.
Dumb it down.
Nobody reads manifestos.
Truth

Alice, TX

#806594 Nov 16, 2012
Stoneman wrote:
<quoted text>
I had more faith in the intelligence of the American public than I should have. I figured that there was absolutely no way the majority of the voters would ignore the fact that Lord Obama is second only to Jimmy Carter in his handling of the economy. The numbers don't lie-- look at the unemployment rate, the debt, on and on and on.
I thought the majority wouldn't ignore his embarassing behavior with foreign affairs, standing up the Israeli prime minister, the Benghazi debacle.
I thought people would look at his infatuation with movie stars, rap singers, etc. partying at the White House, Moochelle flying 60 of her closest friends on our dime to Spain for a week of frolick in the sand and be a bit annoyed.
But I was wrong. The majority, like you, are in it for the free stuff. Women were convinced to vote for him so they could get free (paid for by an Evil Rich Guy) birth control pills and save $9/month. Families everywhere were bought with free (paid for by an Evil Rich Guy) school breakfasts, lunches and dinners. Let the party continue.
It's really rather pathetic. What will it take to persuade you parasites that WORKING IS GOOD. I guess when the last Evil Rich Guy is tapped out, the well runs dry, and the Free Stuff isn't available, you'll burn tires in the street and whine like they do in Greece, Spain and elsewhere.
Whatever happens, you own it. In four more years the unemployment rate is still around 10% and the debt is in the tens of trillions, YOU VOTED FOR IT.
Congratulations.
All you who voted for obama, you own it, when shit starts to really hit the fan, obamacare and it's inclusion of existing conditions such as, idiocy will not be covered, because their might not be any money left or people might find a way to pass legislation to rid of this costly, job killing venture. Rmember dems, you all own this, better pray it works out, or you might not be in charge after 2014 for a very long time. YOU ALL OWN THIS!

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