Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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#761317 Oct 4, 2012
carol wrote:
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He lied about nothing. Rather, he exposed the lies you bought for the last four years.
Last night was, if anything, a definite game changer.
Nice try,,,,The focus of this "win" has become centered on Romney's lies. Mitt Romney told enough lies last night to make your head spin. When his lies become the focus of the entire debate Romney loses. Lol...He disavowed his own policies.

Will Romney's debate lies become the story?

Gergen on CNN: President Obama was Surprised Romney Was Lying..........

Gergen on CNN:– David Gergen on CNN - President Obama thrown off his game because Mitt Romney was flat out lying....

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Rolling Stone's Tim Dickinson:

Mitt Romney turned in a polished performance in last night's presidential debate – and revealed himself to be an accomplished and unapologetic liar. In an evening where he sought to slice and dice the president with statistics, Romney baldly misrepresented his own policy prescriptions, made up numbers to fit his attacks and buried clear contrasts with the president.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/10/romneys-...

Romney won the debate in no small part because he adopted a policy of simply lying about his policies. Probably the best way to understand Obama's listless performance is that he was prepared to debate the claims Romney has been making for the entire campaign, and Romney switched up and started making different and utterly bogus ones.

Romney's critics should probably keep expectations low, but if this line of criticism starts to catch on, it could step on the Republican's post-debate glow. In fact, the tactics that led to the win could even backfire, doing more harm than good.

Seven hour later, the focus has shifted, and the president's allies are far more focused on Romney's dishonesty.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line...

"Paul Ryan's convention speech wound up being covered mainly for its mendacity, and that became the story. It seems that there are at least as many factually challenged comments from Romney's debate performance as there were in Ryan's speech."

It's a dynamic worth watching.
Florida

Lithia, FL

#761318 Oct 4, 2012
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>These fkn (R) mutts who are taking potshots at AARP are going to be on a list___and not the kind they want to be on__no matter who is POTUS going forward.
Speaking of mutts have you seen the first hearing video of Peter Schwartz the wife slapper? Hah__priceless.
A wise man Florida writes down what he thinks, a stupid man (Realtime) makes up what he thinks, a complete idiot punishes himself for what he thinks Realtime..
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What's next in the debateseltime?? Hair Plugs for Brains Joe O'Biden, the intellect of the of the Democratic Party. A grin with an idiot behind it....
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It's the culture...
beggars for Obama

Blanchard, OK

#761319 Oct 4, 2012
FIRE THE GOP wrote:
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What the ffffffck you talking about?
Fred called the President vile hate filled names, thousands of times.
As bad as Bush was, and he was the worst, dems showed some respect.
But this Fred azzzzzzzhole needs to hear it!
Where'd you go fffffffffckhead?
Got these little balllllzzzzz playing your gamesk?
Hey I can retweet!!!!
Fred is a Commie ball sweat licking azzzzzzz puke.
Hey right wingers! FFFFFFFFCK YOU!
Find out who yo momma....vote Obama!

Ima obama champ.....i vote foodstamp!

Dems are great....got me sec 8!

Dems for change and hope....obama vote got me dope!
Florida

Lithia, FL

#761320 Oct 4, 2012
RealDave wrote:
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Even Romney doesn't like the Ryan budget plan. He said he has his own.
RealDave is a First Internet Clown School graduate. Learn roof top clowning and clown school skills: makeup, balloons, magic, mind reading and more...
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It's the culture..
FIRE THE GOP

Lillington, NC

#761321 Oct 4, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Once you put fecal sexxcxx in your mouth like me, yummmmmmm yummmmmmm!!!
Eeeeeeewwwwwww!

Beat it! Gaaaaayyyyy basher!
Florida

Lithia, FL

#761322 Oct 4, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Once you put Obama in a situation where he couldn't lie, he became a babbling idiot!
Obama should have just faked a heart Attack!
MSNBC Ed Shultz echoed the panic and added Obama “created a problem for himself... I was absolutely stunned tonight.
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Dejected Rachel Madcow's:infernal meltdown: Obama’s Debate Performance:‘I’m Disappointed’...
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It's the culture...
still the same

Bronx, NY

#761323 Oct 4, 2012
Knowledge in modern societies has expanded to the point whereby specialisms and sub-specialisms are the norm. It is just not possible for one person to have in-depth knowledge of every discipline. We must rely on others to convey such knowledge, usually in relatively simplistic terms. Most of us have to take at face value many of the ideas and concepts that we are bombarded with in this age of instant, mass communications and information overload.

People tend to like simplicity. In many instances, not possessing sufficient expertise on matters, they require it. They require easily manageable packages of knowledge, and these packages become taken for granted stocks of ‘common sense’ knowledge that enable them to cope, however faulty or misrepresented that ‘knowledge’ may be.

Politicians and the media also recognise people’s need for simplicity. And here lies the problem, particularly in an increasingly complex and confusing world. In order to rally the masses around certain ideas and to make things ‘simple’ for them, both politicians and the media have to a large extent taken their cue from Edward Bernays, the father of advertising, propaganda and public relations. This is where simplicity morphs into manipulation.

Bernays knew how to manipulate groups of people and get the masses hooked on the products and messages of modern society. We are now all subjected to this type of manipulation each and every day by the incessant bombardment of commercials.

It was the late US academic Rick Roderick who noted the trend towards the banality, simplification and trivialisation that the ad industry excels in is now prolific throughout society. He referred to a rampant phenomenon of important issues and problems being reduced to a fad of some kind through continuous repetition. For example, political debates that are seemingly in deadlock like gay rights and abortion issues, although important, have become almost a pointless debate. The same few points are being thrown around so often that they’ve almost become a fad. This doesn’t mean that the issues themselves aren’t important; it just means that they’ve been reduced to something resembling sound-bite debates.

It can get to the point whereby people simply stop caring about it all. In the face of so many different sides and so many different movements all locked in endless debates, it can be easy for a kind of apathy and inaction to kick in among the wider population.

Indeed, many issues have been reduced to media-friendly slogans. For example, decades of serious writing on feminism were overtaken by the Spice Girls shouting the slogan ‘girl power’ at every available opportunity. A serious issue became used as a commercial ploy to sell music. What did girl power mean? Who cared at the time: just shout it out.

Barak Obama relied on the mantra ‘hope and change’, which means everything and nothing at the same time. While in some cases sound-bite sayings may be making a serious point, they are repeated over and over again to the point where they merely become meaningless, feel-good rhetoric.
FIRE THE GOP

Lillington, NC

#761324 Oct 4, 2012
beggars for Obama wrote:
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I like to eat crap!
Eeeeeeeewwwww!

Diaper boy!

What's next?

Obama wins again!
still the same

Bronx, NY

#761325 Oct 4, 2012
Roderick also discusses the notion that John F Kennedy (JFK) was killed in a coup d’état and the US government and that the US has been run secretly ever since. That may or may not be true, but by the time we have had a hundred books and numerous movies on JFK, people tend to switch off, shrug their shoulders and say well it may or may not be the case, but what does it really matter? It’s become banal. For Roderick, this is just another example of how you can take matters of ultimate human importance and turn them into banality.

And that is exactly what is required: banality and sneering that finds its ultimate expression in cynicism, apathy and acceptance of and adherence to the status quo.

Given the major issues affecting us, ranging from nuclear war to ecological meltdown, what we really require is sweeping social and economic reforms and great ideas. But have the great movements and ideas of yesteryear that could provide inspiration for today’s causes been reduced to mediocre banality? Are they just fodder for the market place? Are they to be sneered at and mocked by a population beaten down to regard apathy and cynicism as a normal and overriding part of the human condition?

What better way to control a population than through inducing apathy and banality and encouraging the trivialization of causes, ideas or the plights of certain folk? What better way to control dissent by ridicule of the dissenters, or, if that doesn’t work, in the case of the Indian government, filing sedition charges against 7,000 legitimate anti-nuclear protestors at Kudankulam – simple villagers and fisher-folk.

Are we to just ignore this and sit back and be satisfied with a culture that gives more airtime and column inches to a story about Simon Cowell using placentas on his face to keep young than the death of one of the greatest historians of the 20th century, Eric Hobbsbawn? Are we just to sit back and buy shampoo because we bought into the lie that we ‘are worth it’? If that’s the case, it’s not just the 7,000 people legitimately protesting at Kudankulam ( http://www.countercurrents.org/ctw300912.htm ) and others facing similar threats throughout India who are in trouble – most everyone else is too!

“The hallmark of an intelligent society is its ability to ask questions. If I am in doubt, I have the right to ask questions. A simple act of asking questions is treated as sedition here.” Aruna Roy (Indian political and social activist).
Obamasharpton

Lakewood, NJ

#761326 Oct 4, 2012
FIRE THE GOP wrote:
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Eeeeeeeewwwww!
Diaper boy!
What's next?
Obama wins again!
Why is Obama losing? LOL
finding

Jonesboro, AR

#761327 Oct 4, 2012
carol wrote:
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You're just a sore loser. Take your lumps and deal with the agony of defeat. This president looked like a deer caught in headlights when he didn't come across as a pouting child in between stumbling over his words to try and make a point.
The naivety and inexperience that he somehow managed to disguise behind his narcissism may have fooled you but was unmasked last night for the whole world to see.
If anything, you should be embarrassed for having been so gullible.
When he's not preaching to the choir or his adoring fans, he comes across as completely lost and incompetent in front of the rest of us who he promptly dismissed four years ago as even being relevant.
Yes we all saw and heard it last night, he dosen't have a clue as to what it takes to be a leader.
Florida

Lithia, FL

#761328 Oct 4, 2012
FIRE THE GOP wrote:
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Eeeeeeeewwwww!
Diaper boy!
What's next?
Obama wins again!
Without changing a post Ruthie is worthless...
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It's the culture...
frank

Oakland, CA

#761329 Oct 4, 2012
DBWriter wrote:
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Name one person in the entire country that did not, or doesn't have the opportunity to go to college, idiot.
But, if you want to pay your college loan back, you might want to study something that's actually useful to the economy, instead of useless crap like political science.
Going by your dogshit arguments you obviously did not go either. It can be pretty tough for low-income families, students without the financial means who really want to go to college often find a way, either by going to community college first, attending schools that offer need-based aid, taking out loans or working part time while they're in school. About two thirds of high school grads go on to college.
still the same

Bronx, NY

#761330 Oct 4, 2012
It’s bad enough to make some despots blush. It doesn’t rise to the level of good fiction. No respectable film producer would accept a script explaining it. Who’d believe a democratic system so implausible. It’s more fanciful than real.

Longstanding electoral fraud alone subverts democracy in America. The entire process lacks legitimacy.

Most democracies have proportionally representative (PR) governance. America’s winner-take-all system lacks credibility. It’s borderline lawless.

PR represents all voters and all political parties or groups proportionally to their electoral strength. Thus, if candidates from one party win 30% of the votes, they get 30% of legislative seats. Not in America. Here, 50.1% takes all.

The Electoral College constitutes another systemic flaw. It’s fundamentally undemocratic. Bush v. Gore stands out. Winning the popular vote doesn’t matter.

Gore, of course, also won an Electoral College majority. Final determination came months too late to matter. Gore won but never contested. Perhaps his candidacy just went along for the ride.

At the same time, it likely made no difference who won. Both candidates represented two sides of the same coin. Duopoly power runs America. Big Money owns it. Independent opposition has no chance. Voters have no say.

Sixteen times under Electoral College rules, winning presidential candidates won a minority of votes. Winner take all rules exclude runoffs. Popular favorites lose more times than people realize.

Moreover, when half the electorate opts out, presidents can be elected with as little as 25.1% of eligible voters. Even if all others rejected them, it doesn’t matter.

Past elections were rife with fraud as far back as 1824. Four major candidates contested. All represented the Democratic-Republican party. Today they’re called Democrats. Platforms of both major parties spurn democracy.

It’s always been that way. The 1824 “Corrupt Bargain” settled things. Vote tallies produced no winner. Andrew Jackson led with 42%. John Quincy Adams was second with 32%. Two other candidates had 13% each.

In the Electoral College, Jackson was 32 short of a majority. Under the 12th Amendment, House members chose a winner from the top three candidates. Lobbying and back-room dealmaking went on furiously.

Weeks later, Adams got the minimum Electoral College count needed to win. House galleries were outraged for good reason. Dealmakers won, not voters. Jackson should have been declared president but wasn’t.

He got a second chance. He became America’s seventh president. In 1828, he defeated Adams soundly. In 1832, he won a another term. He bested National Republican Henry Clay decisively.

In office, he vetoed congressional legislation granting the privatized Second Bank of the United States a 20-year charter. Jefferson opposed the first US Bank. Both were 19th century versions of today’s Federal Reserve.

Jackson called the Second Bank a “hydra-headed monster” for good reason. Along with other major central banks, the Fed wages financial war on humanity.

Subsequent elections were as fraudulent as the one Jackson lost. It’s an American tradition. Media scoundrels don’t explain.

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#761331 Oct 4, 2012
fred wrote:
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The Kenyan's commie occupier scum resorts to gay bashing. Yawn.
Your Tweet was favorited!
O has scared eyes.looks rattled... YOU LIE!
Not bashing at all. I clearly said there was not a problem with that.
FIRE THE GOP

Lillington, NC

#761332 Oct 4, 2012
Florida wrote:
<quoted text>MSNBC Ed Shultz echoed the panic and added Obama “created a problem for himself... I was absolutely stunned tonight.
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Dejected Rachel Madcow's:infernal meltdown: Obama’s Debate Performance:‘I’m Disappointed’...
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It's my diaper....change it again......please!!! It stinks in here!!!!!! Like my azzzzzzz crack!!!!!!...
LOL!

what's next!

Obama won!!

Cry in Nov.

And stop crapping the bed!

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#761333 Oct 4, 2012
FIRE THE GOP wrote:
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Still racist in 2012 right winger?

I just realized Barack Hussein O'bama was black this week, after hearing him speak in his negroe dialect like Rev Wright. Who would have thought? why didn't he speak like that last night?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#761334 Oct 4, 2012
frank wrote:
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That is not what the numbers say but hey what are a few factual numbers for moronic hacks! Why is it that it really big spending happened under republicans starting with Saint Reagan? Obama presented his budget and the republicans wouldn’t even look ate it. Obama’s budget specifies a $4 trillion deficit reduction plan – for every $2.50 in cuts must include $1 new revenue.
How in the hell will Obama get $4 trillion dollars in cuts? In case you've been living in a goddam cave the past 4 years, we haven't even had a budget, THAT MEANS WE HAVEN'T HAD A PLAN, since Obama came into office. If Obama never had a plan, what makes you think he has a plan now?.... back away from the bong. That dope is obviously way too strong for you.

I know how we can cut the deficit to just 160 billion dollars right here and now. All we have to do is just pick up the last budget generated by the Republicans before they turned all the purse strings for the government over to the Democrats in January, 2007. Just throw that budget onto the floors of the House and Senate and vote on it. Voila, we cut the deficit from 2.4 trillion dollars to 160 billion dollars.

Or, we can do it like this:

Republicans - "We're going to have a budget. We only have (this much money) to spend. What do we spend it on?"
Democrats - "...(fill in the blank)...."
- negotiations.... cut here, cut there, cut everywhere.)))))
EVERY GODDAM CZAR GETS THE AXE.(gotta be a couple of trillion there)
And, voila, we've got a budget again and the government is off the insane suicidal path we've been on since the Democrats took full control of all the purse strings of government in January, 2007.
Here's some of that hopey - changey stuff for you: BUDGET.
TSM

El Paso, TX

#761335 Oct 4, 2012
By CNN own Poll Romney was in command and projected Leadership!!
Romney had a 53%-44% edge over Obama. And by a 52%-47% margin, debate watchers said Romney would better handle health care, and he had the edge on the budget deficit by a 57%-41% margin!!

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#761336 Oct 4, 2012
Florida wrote:
<quoted text>RealDave is a First Internet Clown School graduate. Learn roof top clowning and clown school skills: makeup, balloons, magic, mind reading and more...
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It's the culture..
"In Paul Ryan's high-energy debut as Republican vice presidential candidate, Mitt Romney made one thing clear: His ideas rule, not his running mate's. "I have my budget plan," he said, "And that's the budget plan we're going to run on.""

http://news.yahoo.com/romney-seeks-distance-r...

Huh, who's the clown now FloriDUH.

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