With deficit negotiations at an impas...

With deficit negotiations at an impasse, Obama offers Republicans a 'grand bargain' on jobs

There are 143 comments on the Brandon Sun story from Jul 30, 2013, titled With deficit negotiations at an impasse, Obama offers Republicans a 'grand bargain' on jobs. In it, Brandon Sun reports that:

President Barack Obama is extending a new proposal to Republicans that he hopes will break the political gridlock on budget negotiations, offering to cut corporate tax rates in exchange for job investments.

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“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#27 Jul 30, 2013
it would seem the "they" in "they took our jobs", is actually todays republicans.
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way to screw us all guys, thanks!!

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#28 Jul 30, 2013
Eighthman wrote:
Obama needs to stick his thumbs where the sun don't shine.
why?

Since: Dec 07

Spring, TX

#29 Jul 30, 2013
anneutral wrote:
it would seem the "they" in "they took our jobs", is actually todays republicans.
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way to screw us all guys, thanks!!
Right snot for brains, that's why the republican led states are leading in job producltion...DUH
FlipityFlop

Wildwood, NJ

#30 Jul 30, 2013
Revolution is a few months from now. Obama should head back to Hawaii.

Since: Dec 07

Spring, TX

#32 Jul 30, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
<quoted text>
Lowest wages, no benefits. That's a red state right to work renaissance.
hahahahahahahaha
Lowest cost of living, more money in their pockets in the red states, blue states going broke and filing for bankruptcy...largest welfare states 13 of 15 are blue states....hahahahahahahahahaha haha the blue states are a no work renaissance. hahahahaha

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#34 Jul 30, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
This is the gridlock we get with divided government.
The only way things will change is when one party controls both the White House & Congress- with a supermajority in the Senate.
I say let one party have it all and pass whatever they want for 5 years; if the economy has SIGNIFICANTLY improved after 5 years, then the other party gets complete control and THEY can try all their ideas.
It's the only way to find out which philosophy works.
Already happened. Don't you remember when Obama was elected and Democrats won both houses of Congress?
What happened? More debt, and a reduced credit rating and a health care law that Obama won't implement!
Perhaps dictatorship isn't as good as you think!
See the Light

El Paso, TX

#37 Jul 31, 2013
If Obama would stop taking so many lavish vacations we could lower the debt. Last year he spent 1.4 billion.This year he's racked up 100 million, and an upcoming xmas vacation will be 4 million. An people from the UK complain because their taxpayers h If they have to pay 57.8 million a year. If they only knew........

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#43 Jul 31, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
Already happened. Don't you remember when Obama was elected and Democrats won both houses of Congress?
What happened? More debt, and a reduced credit rating and a health care law that Obama won't implement!
Perhaps dictatorship isn't as good as you think!
Who said anything about a dictatorship?

I suggest you reread my post.
Center-Left Conservative

United States

#44 Jul 31, 2013
Democrat Crapola wrote:
<quoted text>lMAO, So, how much did media matters pay you to post that B.S.?
"my Party"
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha,
c'mon admit it, your a typical far left democrat douche bag pretending to be a Republican. Hilarious...
Iím a real conservative; the people that now run the Republican Party are not conservatives. They are politicians that are pandering to the angry zealots that push my party to the extreme right.
And I will tell you this much; if they donít get their act together and stop being dumb I will not be voting for any Republican come 2014 and 2016. I will either vote for the Libertarian candidate or even for Hillary if we put up another RINO or extremist. We were stupid not to elect Jon Huntsman as our nominee. He was a sensible conservative with moderate views.

“Baby Obama”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#45 Jul 31, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
"Majority of Republicans believe tea party faction has them headed in wrong direction"
Are they finally waking up from their deep sleep?
hahahahahahahahaha
The John McCain/Lyndsay Graham RINO Republicans don't like the Tea Party.

The Ted Cruz/Trey Gowdey/Mike Lee Conservative Republicans LOVE the Tea Party.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#46 Jul 31, 2013
Center-Left Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
Iím a real conservative; the people that now run the Republican Party are not conservatives. They are politicians that are pandering to the angry zealots that push my party to the extreme right.
And I will tell you this much; if they donít get their act together and stop being dumb I will not be voting for any Republican come 2014 and 2016. I will either vote for the Libertarian candidate or even for Hillary if we put up another RINO or extremist. We were stupid not to elect Jon Huntsman as our nominee. He was a sensible conservative with moderate views.
Excellent post.

I would love to vote for an actual conservative Republican candidate, but they can't get through a primary system controlled by the far religious right.

So I'm left voting for the Dems just to keep the nutjob GOPasurs out of office.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#47 Jul 31, 2013
And yet they have expanded all of the nazi laws and departments since they have been in power. Zionist religious christians and zionist secular jews who should never speak for Jewish suffering in the past because they are part of the totalitarian movement control the roost in foreign matters and have a say in the massive leftward movement domestically. Worried about those far right religious people! You better worry about the ones who are not religious in your own back yard. To get some crumbs you give up the slice of cake.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#48 Jul 31, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent post.
I would love to vote for an actual conservative Republican candidate, but they can't get through a primary system controlled by the far religious right.
So I'm left voting for the Dems just to keep the nutjob GOPasurs out of office.
But, what happens when both the RINO's and Dems are controlled by the same corporate interests?

Will you take a stand, or, vote for a Dem?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#49 Jul 31, 2013
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
But, what happens when both the RINO's and Dems are controlled by the same corporate interests?
Will you take a stand, or, vote for a Dem?
Until an actual conservative runs for the Republican nomination, I have no choice but to vote for the Dems.

I simply won't risk the current crop of GOPasaurs getting to nominate the next SCOTUS justices when Ginsburg, Kennedy, Scalia, & Breyer eventually step down.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#50 Jul 31, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Until an actual conservative runs for the Republican nomination, I have no choice but to vote for the Dems.
That is not a correct statement. That statement continues the false argument of Left versus Right.

You do have a choice.

Last time I looked, you had several choices. 2 of those several choices outside of the D's and R's had a mathematical chance of winning electorates to win the office. Whether or not those choices are worth a crap is a different discussion.

And then there is always a last choice. Don't vote. Do not become satisfied with false choices. Like the choice of Obama and Romney. It was a false choice. Nothing changed, nothing would have changed. Different face, different letter, different speech, same policies.

If enough people woke up to this duopoly that has been created by Democrats and Republicans (especially the rigged debate system and the Commission of Presidential Debates), we may actually get an honest true constitutional conservative.

But to say you don't have a choice is not accurate at all.

“Baby Obama”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#51 Jul 31, 2013
Center-Left Conservative wrote:
<quoted text>
Iím a real conservative; the people that now run the Republican Party are not conservatives. They are politicians that are pandering to the angry zealots that push my party to the extreme right.
And I will tell you this much; if they donít get their act together and stop being dumb I will not be voting for any Republican come 2014 and 2016. I will either vote for the Libertarian candidate or even for Hillary if we put up another RINO or extremist. We were stupid not to elect Jon Huntsman as our nominee. He was a sensible conservative with moderate views.
No you're not.

A "Left-Leaning Conservative" is an oxy-moron.

You are a RINO, whether you want to admit it or not.

Even worse, you are a Progressive Republican.
Center-Left Conservative

United States

#52 Jul 31, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>
No you're not.
A "Left-Leaning Conservative" is an oxy-moron.
You are a RINO, whether you want to admit it or not.
Even worse, you are a Progressive Republican.
This is still a free country and do have the right to define what I am politically. Iím sorry that I donít fit into your little mold of how you think I should be but you are exactly why the Republican Party will continue to lose. Because the big tent isnít accepted by zealots like you and when you push enough of us away youíll then realize that you are standing alone. Ronald Reaganís views are more in line with mine than they are with the people who currently control the GOP. Reagan compromised, and in the end the people loved him and the country was better off because of it. The American people now see the Republicans as the problem and Obama as the one looking to compromise, thatís why the republican-led Congress has an approval rating in the teens and the President sits close to 50%.
Iím not full of hate, and I love my country and even though I donít agree with the current President I want him to do a good job so that the country does well; can you honestly say the same thing?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#53 Jul 31, 2013
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not a correct statement. That statement continues the false argument of Left versus Right.
You do have a choice.
Last time I looked, you had several choices. 2 of those several choices outside of the D's and R's had a mathematical chance of winning electorates to win the office. Whether or not those choices are worth a crap is a different discussion.
And then there is always a last choice. Don't vote. Do not become satisfied with false choices. Like the choice of Obama and Romney. It was a false choice. Nothing changed, nothing would have changed. Different face, different letter, different speech, same policies.
If enough people woke up to this duopoly that has been created by Democrats and Republicans (especially the rigged debate system and the Commission of Presidential Debates), we may actually get an honest true constitutional conservative.
But to say you don't have a choice is not accurate at all.
Voting for a 3rd party candidate is the same as not voting. It ensures you give up your right to influence the outcome of the election.

You can feel free to waste your vote on a candidate with no chance of ever being elected; that essentially gives me two votes for the Dem of my choice.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#54 Jul 31, 2013
As long as the GOPasurs are beholden to the religious right, they'll NEVER get my vote for national office.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#55 Jul 31, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Voting for a 3rd party candidate is the same as not voting. It ensures you give up your right to influence the outcome of the election.
You can feel free to waste your vote on a candidate with no chance of ever being elected; that essentially gives me two votes for the Dem of my choice.
And that right there is the lie people have accepted by both the DNC and RNC.

This belief that you only can pick between the 2. It is completely false. Or the belief that if you do not pick either of the 2, you in essence "WASTE" your vote.

And to help facilitate this lie, is the media. The media who is influenced by both Republicans and Democrats facilitate in the duopoly they have created. The media, DNC, and RNC have manipulated the people into that very lie.

For instance, when was the last time you saw anyone other than a R or D in a debate? Answer: Ross Perot.

Well what happened? The Commission on Presidential Debates changed the rules to not allow any other participants other than the D or R. Why? Look at who founded the commission. Former chair of the DNC and former chair of the RNC.

Well, it is time to wake up now. This very idea that you have to pick between the 2 is a lie. You do not have too. And throwing support behind a person because of the party affiliation is just ignorant. Not only do you do yourself an injustice, but the rest of society as well. And that goes to all that do the same thing.

I personally like Gerald Celente's motto: "Think for yourself."

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