Do we want return to Clinton years?

[Holographic Doctor]

Rusty Shackleford wrote:

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So then, have you written your Congressperson to urge drilling in ANWR?

And how would that help us NOW? It would not. It would take quite a while for drilling to even start, then you have to build pipeline to get it somewhere where it can be shipped to a refinery. Then where is all the Alaskan crude refined? JAPAN. Who then sells us back our own refined crude, some years from now.

Apart from environmental concerns about drilling in a wildlife refuge, how does this possibly help us? It might make oil companies and those that sell drilling equipment (such as Halliburton) happy, but I can't see that it helps the US consumer one little bit.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Ace wrote:

<quoted text>When Clinton was in office people was not losing their homes and having to live on welfare.In to the contrary of your beliefs our present President Bush has the title for that, the economy was the greatest when Clinton was President and he worked for the people not against the people.You kinda sound like one of those that got hit in the wallet for non child support.

People have always lost homes they couldn't afford. Thanks to the dumbascrap party, certain people will always be on welfare.

The unemployment rate was at times worse under clinton. Of course, you missed reading my link to those facts in favor of making a childish comment about my mother or something.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Holographic Doctor wrote:

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And how would that help us NOW? It would not. It would take quite a while for drilling to even start, then you have to build pipeline to get it somewhere where it can be shipped to a refinery. Then where is all the Alaskan crude refined? JAPAN. Who then sells us back our own refined crude, some years from now.
Apart from environmental concerns about drilling in a wildlife refuge, how does this possibly help us? It might make oil companies and those that sell drilling equipment (such as Halliburton) happy, but I can't see that it helps the US consumer one little bit.

I'm not sure where the post was that I replied to, but you need to look at the context of the reply with the post.

[BUNNIE]

camaro wrote:

like it or not"]Clinton ran this country into the way it should be run.
You are so right. He is the best president we've ever had.And Hillary will be a great president too.

You're sooooooo right, camero.

[Ramdan]

Rusty Shackleford wrote:

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People have always lost homes they couldn't afford. Thanks to the dumbascrap party, certain people will always be on welfare.
The unemployment rate was at times worse under clinton. Of course, you missed reading my link to those facts in favor of making a childish comment about my mother or something.

Your friggin brain is Rusty!
The number of homes in foreclosure is astronomical,and the unemployment rate was never as high under Clinton as it is underBUSHWACKER !

You repugnantcans like to use twisted statistics to make your lies look like fact!
Unemployment figures only take into account people on the books as collecting.Once someones benefits expire he is no longer counted.Self employed people who are out of work are not counted either!

Like the president says the cost of living is under 5%! What a joke ! As a matter of fact I have decided you must be a comedian cuz you make people with any intelligence at all laugh out loud,and right now we are laughing our butts off at your stupidity!
Go peddle your snake oil somewhere else you idiot!

[Ace]

Rusty Shackleford wrote:

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People have always lost homes they couldn't afford. Thanks to the dumbascrap party, certain people will always be on welfare.
The unemployment rate was at times worse under clinton. Of course, you missed reading my link to those facts in favor of making a childish comment about my mother or something.

Hey nose wipe you where the one that started with the mother thing on me.If you can't take it don't dish it out.

[Ace]

Ramdan wrote:

<quoted text>Your friggin brain is Rusty!
The number of homes in foreclosure is astronomical,and the unemployment rate was never as high under Clinton as it is underBUSHWACKER !
You repugnantcans like to use twisted statistics to make your lies look like fact!
Unemployment figures only take into account people on the books as collecting.Once someones benefits expire he is no longer counted.Self employed people who are out of work are not counted either!
Like the president says the cost of living is under 5%! What a joke ! As a matter of fact I have decided you must be a comedian cuz you make people with any intelligence at all laugh out loud,and right now we are laughing our butts off at your stupidity!
Go peddle your snake oil somewhere else you idiot!

Ramdan he just cannot stand the truth he is so dead set against the Clintons and all of his facts and figures mean nothing he can darn sure dish it out but he cannot take it.

[Ace]

Ramdan wrote:

<quoted text>Your friggin brain is Rusty!
The number of homes in foreclosure is astronomical,and the unemployment rate was never as high under Clinton as it is underBUSHWACKER !
You repugnantcans like to use twisted statistics to make your lies look like fact!
Unemployment figures only take into account people on the books as collecting.Once someones benefits expire he is no longer counted.Self employed people who are out of work are not counted either!
Like the president says the cost of living is under 5%! What a joke ! As a matter of fact I have decided you must be a comedian cuz you make people with any intelligence at all laugh out loud,and right now we are laughing our butts off at your stupidity!
Go peddle your snake oil somewhere else you idiot!

Thanks Ramdan

[like it or not]

Ace wrote:

<quoted text>When Clinton was in office people was not losing their homes and having to live on welfare.In to the contrary of your beliefs our present President Bush has the title for that, the economy was the greatest when Clinton was President and he worked for the people not against the people.You kinda sound like one of those that got hit in the wallet for non child support.

"You kinda sound like one of those that got hit in the wallet for non child support.["

WTF does this mean? I say one thing and you attack me personally
Get a life a@@wipe! My wife had cancer and we did not have a chance to have any kids because of it. Think before you open your mouth and know what you're talking about.

[Ace]

like it or not wrote:

<quoted text>
"You kinda sound like one of those that got hit in the wallet for non child support.["
WTF does this mean? I say one thing and you attack me personally
Get a life a@@wipe! My wife had cancer and we did not have a chance to have any kids because of it. Think before you open your mouth and know what you're talking about.

I am very sorry about your wife.

[Ace]

like it or not wrote:

<quoted text>
"You kinda sound like one of those that got hit in the wallet for non child support.["
WTF does this mean? I say one thing and you attack me personally
Get a life a@@wipe! My wife had cancer and we did not have a chance to have any kids because of it. Think before you open your mouth and know what you're talking about.

If you think for one minute that you have it better now under Bush it is very very sad and as far as attacking you personally you did put it out there did you not.And as far as feeling the effects we will all feel the effects of Bush for years to come.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Ramdan wrote:

<quoted text>Your friggin brain is Rusty!
The number of homes in foreclosure is astronomical,and the unemployment rate was never as high under Clinton as it is underBUSHWACKER !
You repugnantcans like to use twisted statistics to make your lies look like fact!
Unemployment figures only take into account people on the books as collecting.Once someones benefits expire he is no longer counted.Self employed people who are out of work are not counted either!
Like the president says the cost of living is under 5%! What a joke ! As a matter of fact I have decided you must be a comedian cuz you make people with any intelligence at all laugh out loud,and right now we are laughing our butts off at your stupidity!
Go peddle your snake oil somewhere else you idiot!

I never said the foreclosure rate was not high. That's not the fault of any President however. When you buy a house you cannot afford, you lose it when you can't make the payments. Easy concepts, lost on you.

So, then facts from the bureau of labor statistics are a lie? The unemployment rate was worse under clinton at times. It's true. As for the "once someone is off the books" piece, that's always the case.

Here's the facts: http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat1.pdf

Laugh all you want.

Do your lobotomy scars show?

[Rusty Shackleford]

Ace wrote:

<quoted text>Ramdan he just cannot stand the truth he is so dead set against the Clintons and all of his facts and figures mean nothing he can darn sure dish it out but he cannot take it.

Still can't refute even the unemployment figures?

Thought so.

[Ace]

Rusty Shackleford wrote:

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Still can't refute even the unemployment figures?
Thought so.

The Unemployment Rate Was 4.2 Percent in 1999 the Lowest Since 1969.For women the unemployment rate was 4.1 percent the lowest since 1953.African American and Hispanic Unemployment Rates Were the Lowest on Record in 1999.The average hourly earnings had increased 3.7 percent faster than the rate of inflation.
Under President Clinton, real wages where up 6.5 percent, after declining 4.3 percent during the Reagan and Bush years. Real wage growth in 1998 reached 2.6 percent the largest increase since 1972.Inflation Lowest Since the 1960s.
Most Rapid Growth in Construction Jobs In 50 Years. After losing 662,000 jobs in construction during the previous four years, 1.9 million new construction jobs where added during the Clinton-Gore years that’s a faster annual rate (5.1 percent) than any other Administration.President Clinton and Vice President Gore took office, the private sector of the economy has added 18.5 million new jobs. That was 92 percent of the 20.4 million new jobs, the highest percentage since Harry S. Truman was President and presiding over the post-World War II demobilization.

[Ace]

Rusty Shackleford wrote:

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Wow, if you truly believe what you posted, our conversation is over. All thinking people know that the conspiracy theory surrounding 9-11 is crap.
By the way, did you just use the word "losted" more than once?
Go and get your GED and come on back when you realize that your government shouldn't be penalizing the prosperous to pay for the poor decision-making of the un-prosperous.

You have been disputing the Governments records every since you have been on here.So are you saying that the Government records are lies.Yes I think that you are calling them a bunch of lairs,are you even a American citizen I doubt it.Just what would your Government think of you.Scum

[ramdan]

Ace wrote:

<quoted text>The Unemployment Rate Was 4.2 Percent in 1999 the Lowest Since 1969.For women the unemployment rate was 4.1 percent the lowest since 1953.African American and Hispanic Unemployment Rates Were the Lowest on Record in 1999.The average hourly earnings had increased 3.7 percent faster than the rate of inflation.
Under President Clinton, real wages where up 6.5 percent, after declining 4.3 percent during the Reagan and Bush years. Real wage growth in 1998 reached 2.6 percent the largest increase since 1972.Inflation Lowest Since the 1960s.
Most Rapid Growth in Construction Jobs In 50 Years. After losing 662,000 jobs in construction during the previous four years, 1.9 million new construction jobs where added during the Clinton-Gore years that’s a faster annual rate (5.1 percent) than any other Administration.President Clinton and Vice President Gore took office, the private sector of the economy has added 18.5 million new jobs. That was 92 percent of the 20.4 million new jobs, the highest percentage since Harry S. Truman was President and presiding over the post-World War II demobilization.

THANK YOU,you are very good at the statistics!

[ramdan]

Rusty Shackleford wrote:

<quoted text>
I never said the foreclosure rate was not high. That's not the fault of any President however. When you buy a house you cannot afford, you lose it when you can't make the payments. Easy concepts, lost on you.
So, then facts from the bureau of labor statistics are a lie? The unemployment rate was worse under clinton at times. It's true. As for the "once someone is off the books" piece, that's always the case.
Here's the facts: http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat1.pdf
Laugh all you want.
Do your lobotomy scars show?

As the leader of the country the buck has to stop with the DECIDER !
He should have taken action to forestall the collapse of the economy,and failed to do so!
There was an awful of shady goings on in the issuing of mortgages to people who would not have qualified had the mortgage issuers been on the up and up!
What are you,a mortgage loan officer with DEWEY CHEATEM and HOW ?

[ramdan]

like it or not wrote:

Clinton ran this country into the ground!
Most of the time you feel the effects of the last president after he's out of office be it good or bad.

Yeah well Bush's administration is the exception to that rule,we are getting the full effect early,and it will take many years to turn his debacle around!
Clinton created more jobs in two years than Bush has in eight!
Clinton did not get this country into an unwinnable war and subsequent occupation of an Islamic country embroiled in a civil war!

[Ace]

Rusty Shackleford wrote:

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Still can't refute even the unemployment figures?
Thought so.

And here is Bushs records,President Bush's economic plan had been in place for nearly two years. During the spring of 2001, the Administration claimed that it would strengthen a struggling economy. Unfortunately, those predictions proved false the President's economic plan had failed. Two years later, our economy remains sluggish and continues to lose jobs. Recent economic reports and data give little indication that our economy is on the verge of recovery. President Bush's response is to advocate more of the same failed policies.
The economy lost 2.7 million private sector jobs since President Bush took office. The losses have been partially offset by an increase in government employment but total job losses under President Bush are still above 2 million.
There where jobs lost for three consecutive months, a total of 525,000 jobs lost. The unemployment rate had jumped back up to 6.0 percent.
The worst job growth rate under any President since World War II came under the first Bush Administration. Job creation would have to pick up dramatically in order for President Bush to match his father's poor performance. The economy would have to create 216,000 jobs per month for this Administration to create the same number of jobs as the first Bush Administration.
No President since World War II had seen job losses during his tenure. President Bush is in danger of breaking this record of job growth. More than halfway through his term, he has lost more than 75,000 jobs per month. The economy would have to create nearly 97,000 jobs per month to break even by the end of his term.
Weakest economic growth under a President in 50 years. The economy grew at a rate of 0.3 percent in 2001 and 2.4 percent

[koonism]

It is a matter of historical record..During the Clinton administration, the U.S. economy grew at a level that was not topped or equal prior to Bill Clinton's terms and since his terms. He holds the record as the most successfull president in terms of economic growth and stability....LOOK IT UP..IT IS A FACT OF U.S. HISTORY!