Survey finds 97% climate science pape...

Survey finds 97% climate science papers agree warming is man-made

There are 106 comments on the www.guardian.co.uk story from May 16, 2013, titled Survey finds 97% climate science papers agree warming is man-made. In it, www.guardian.co.uk reports that:

Overwhelming majority of peer-reviewed papers taking a position on global warming say humans are causing it

Our team of citizen science volunteers at Skeptical Science has published a new survey in the journal Environmental Research Letters of over 12,000 peer-reviewed climate science papers, as the Guardian reports today. This is the most comprehensive survey of its kind, and the inspiration of this blog's name: Climate Consensus – the 97%.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at www.guardian.co.uk.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#43 May 16, 2013
Far Away wrote:
Hard to believe that comment at 29 wasn't written by someone under the influence of alcohol, drugs or some prescription med that affects the ability to communicate.
A lot of things are hard for you. I know.
Don't feel bad, we all have a place under the Sun.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#44 May 16, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Liberals have this strange fixation with the anal cavity. Why is that?
I don't know. I give up. Why?

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#45 May 16, 2013
BandMaster wrote:
Canada says it's not man-made and there is no global warming in the first place. Who you going to believe? Obama? LOL...That's very funny.
Canadian scientists say the real non-political science that they use say the globe is cooling. This FACT is having a tough time getting south of their border. Americans are so stupid it's incredible. The public schools have really done a great job of dumbing all the children down into stupid adults.
Cite the Canadian "SCIENTISTS" who say this and what their academic credentials may be.

I'm calling you a liar to your face.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#46 May 16, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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People like you are the reason Barack Obama can say with a straight face, why I didn't know there was an IRS until I read about it in the newspaper.
Who are the people like me? I'd love to meet them.
And what's IRS, Irritating Rebublican Simpleton?

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#47 May 16, 2013
BandMaster wrote:
Bush and Cheney are looking better all the time. Am I right or what!
What.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#48 May 16, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Liberals have this strange fixation with the anal cavity. Why is that?
We're overstocked on cucumbers. Bend over.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#49 May 16, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Who are the people like me? I'd love to meet them.
And what's IRS, Irritating Rebublican Simpleton?
Obama didn't know about Benghazi either until he read about it in the newspaper.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#50 May 16, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Obama didn't know about Benghazi either until he read about it in the newspaper.
You should try it sometime.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#51 May 16, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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I have never seen it explained as to how an uncompressed gas can retain heat.
If it is uncontained (completely) the pressure would be zero and there would be no molecules to hold heat. Even the vacuum of space has SOME pressure. So what are you saying? What do you mean by 'uncompressed'? The pressure at sea level?

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#52 May 16, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>You should try it sometime.
Obama was surprised about the problems with Obamacare after reading about them in the newspaper. After all, he didn't build it.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#53 May 16, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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If it is uncontained (completely) the pressure would be zero and there would be no molecules to hold heat. Even the vacuum of space has SOME pressure. So what are you saying? What do you mean by 'uncompressed'? The pressure at sea level?
Air is free to circulate around the Earth, so how does the atmosphere retain heat? At sea level, the atmosphere still churns.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#54 May 16, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Obama was surprised about the problems with Obamacare after reading about them in the newspaper. After all, he didn't build it.
Maybe Mitt Romney was the basis designer along with a lot of his Republican buddies that tweaked things till they could agree to it, but Obama provided the leadership to steer it through Congress. The first President to do something that every OTHER civilized nation consider essential to preserving the health of it's workforce.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#55 May 16, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Air is free to circulate around the Earth.
Yes. At a pressure set by the height above sea level. And yes, it circulates. That is what climate is.
LookingToEscape wrote:
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so how does the atmosphere retain heat?
It retains heat because it has thermal mass. You can heat gasses just as you can heat rocks. Water vapor has the 'heat of fusion' as well, which can be released by precipitation. This can cause large changes to the temperature of air masses over shorter periods. In fact, this is what drives the circulation of hurricanes and cyclones.
LookingToEscape wrote:
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At sea level, the atmosphere still churns.
I am now wondering if you are meaning how can it retain DIFFERENCES in temperature when it is being mixed?

The reason is that more heat is deposited in the equator than the poles so there is always a differential and the distances are too great for instant mixing. There are temperature gradients both vertically due to pressure change (see the PV/T = C equations) and horizontally due to unequal distribution of heat influx.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#56 May 16, 2013
98% of those polled suggest that 2% of the scientists reply to 97% of the surveys.
Mike

Polk City, FL

#57 May 16, 2013
global warming .......it's called Summer ...Al Gore is an Azzholes
litesong

Mountlake Terrace, WA

#59 May 16, 2013
looking to escape education wrote:
Air is free to circulate around the Earth, so how does the atmosphere retain heat?
Glad toxic topix AGW deniers continue to avoid knowledge. GHGs delay transfer of energy to outer space. Energy is not retained. But the delay increases the btus in a given space. Therefore, energy per unit volume is increased.

Since "looking to escape education" is true to its name, it won't 'RETAIN' this information, but will leak it to space.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#60 May 17, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Maybe Mitt Romney was the basis designer along with a lot of his Republican buddies that tweaked things till they could agree to it, but Obama provided the leadership to steer it through Congress. The first President to do something that every OTHER civilized nation consider essential to preserving the health of it's workforce.
Leadership? The plan never enjoyed popular support, the numbers were rigged and falsified and the cost has grown dramatically beyond the falsified projected expense.
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The same Democrats that back slapped each other over it's passage are now finding out just how bad that bill is. Why now? Because they didn't bother to look at the details when the bill was up for debate.
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Obama only checked in when there was enough done to make a speech with.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#61 May 17, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
It retains heat because it has thermal mass. You can heat gasses just as you can heat rocks. Water vapor has the 'heat of fusion' as well, which can be released by precipitation. This can cause large changes to the temperature of air masses over shorter periods. In fact, this is what drives the circulation of hurricanes and cyclones.
The constant churning helps release heat. CO2's can not retain heat and if they act as a mirror returning heat back to Earth, then they must also act as a reflector bouncing incoming heat back into space. CO2's affect seems dubious at best.
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As a rule, major volcanoes have caused global cooling, not warming.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#62 May 17, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Leadership? The plan never enjoyed popular support, the numbers were rigged and falsified and the cost has grown dramatically beyond the falsified projected expense.
Leadership is in moving the 'public support' not in following it. And your paranoia is just more right wing denial. There WILL be an increase in costs of the PROGRAM but a decrease in costs of lost wages and hours. The US has about 110 preventable deaths per 100,000 while Canada with universal health care has 77. That is a LOT of lost productivity to the US. The balance is probably positive for the US in overall economics. The MAIN incentive is that health costs tend to be lowered by universal health care. The 13% of the public that is currently under health care add to the costs, BUT the costs may be reduced by up to 30% or so by the lack of paperwork to handle cost accounting (from competing programs).
LookingToEscape wrote:
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The same Democrats that back slapped each other over it's passage are now finding out just how bad that bill is. Why now? Because they didn't bother to look at the details when the bill was up for debate.
Please provide some backup to this idiotic claim. Republicans have introduce a 'repeal' bill in the House where they are a majority 37 times or more, yet cannot get it to pass. This means that a number of REPUBLICANS are supporting the Obamacare in defiance of their party! Business understands that 'sick days' and having to replace workers who get sick for lack of simple medications costs THEM a lot every year.
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Obama only checked in when there was enough done to make a speech with.
Yah, yah. You let me know when you have your brain in gear and are willing to DISCUSS the subject. And to leave you with some substance, here is the US Steel workers report on Canadian Medicare and how much it saves in dollars and how much it saves in lives. Not only business but the unions know that universal health coverage is necessary to a thriving economy as unhealthy workers don't produce as much.

http://healthcoalition.ca/steelworkers/
http://healthcoalition.ca/wp-content/uploads/...
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#63 May 17, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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The constant churning helps release heat.
From what TO what? What idiotic statement is this? Heat can be transferred by convection, conduction, or radiation. It is never 'released'. In fact, energy is CONSERVED. I cannot discuss something where you don't make any SENSE.
LookingToEscape wrote:
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CO2's can not retain heat and if they act as a mirror returning heat back to Earth, then they must also act as a reflector bouncing incoming heat back into space.
Here you are totally wrong and obviously ignorant. The solar radiation that delivers heat to the surface is MOSTLY in the VISIBLE spectrum. GHGs do 'reflect' some incoming IR in the right bands but the sun is at 6000K so there is little energy in the greenhouse effect bands.

Once it has warmed the SURFACE, it is at the TEMPERATURE of the surface and emits Long Wave IR photons which DO get captured and reflected. This is why there is a 'one way' trapping of heat. Because the incoming and outgoing radiation are at DIFFERENT wavelengths.
LookingToEscape wrote:
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CO2's affect seems dubious at best.
GHGs (including CO2 have a WELL documented 'effect'. In fact, without them the surface would be frozen over (see the snowball earth) since even without global warming there is a 33C difference between the 'thermal equilibrium' at this distance from the sun and the actual surface temperature. And the cooling as you go up or heating as you go down in altitude is clear evidence of the greenhouse effect. Try a mountain vs Death Valley. The 'lapse rate' or difference in equilbrium temperature for each meter of altitude is well known example of the greenhouse effect.
LookingToEscape wrote:
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As a rule, major volcanoes have caused global cooling, not warming.
Vulcanism has mostly driven warming (by releasing CO2) in the major 'episodes' in geological history. The explosive volcanic blasts can loft enough sulfates to cause a VERY temporary dip in temperatures from sulphate aerosols but this never lasts more than a decade (and mostly less than a year). The aerosols cannot stay up indefinitely (unlike CO2).

You make a lot of statements that show a serious lack of interest or research on the subject. Are you sure you care?

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