Zimmerman found not guilty in shooting death of Trayvon Martin

Jul 13, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Hill

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who triggered a national debate about race after shooting an unarmed black teenager named Trayvon Martin, was found not guilty of second-degree murder and manslaughter charges Saturday night.

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Just a thought wrote:
Reverse racism creates a new defense,"it's a cultural thing",when profiling other groups.
Gotta love the double standards. If anyone were to use a racial slur against blacks, Al Sharpton will be on TV condemning it and soon followed by pitchforks and torches. Conversely, if the racial slur is directed towards whites, it's all good- it's cultural. I'm sure that's not the culture MLK dreamt about.
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Trayvon Martin was a wanna be thug. Its sad what happened to him, but he is not the innocent lil kid we are all thinking he was. Zimmerman is a complete liar and we will now have to watch his back for the rest of his life, so he is now a unofficial black person. See killing a black man and you now inherit their struggles...aint life a beeyotch!!!

If both victims were black, no one would give a crap about this at all.

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Cat74.I couldn't agree more.What we're seeing is the 21st century equivalent of the Salem Witch Trials.Witch="racist ".Guilty for something you may/may not have said 30-40 years ago,based on biased testimony of questionable witnesses,and"special prosecuters".
Exactly what I was saying! The media tried Zimmerman before a real trial. People were basically stoning him based on hearsay and media manipulation. What happened to justice?! That's what upset me so much about this whole thing! >:(
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Exactly what I was saying! The media tried Zimmerman before a real trial. People were basically stoning him based on hearsay and media manipulation. What happened to justice?! That's what upset me so much about this whole thing! >:(
The story fit the narrative so they ran with it without question.

Kind of like that Duke lacrosse case......
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But Justice did prevail. Those 6 women examined the law, they had taken so many notes, they knew it was a tragedy, but the law was upheld. We can be proud of their difficult decision. Oh, the Jackson's, and Sharpton's of the world will keep going after Zimmerman, but he is strong, and he will overcome the injustice of it all.

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Marine Corp Pat wrote:
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That’s good… more money for Trayvon Martin’s family.
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But here is how truly stupid you are… this verdict gives more ammunition (no pun intended) for Al Sharpton and other civil right leaders to make their case about civil rights and injustice. This was the true test of whether we have made it to a post racial society since ‘We the People’ elected the first African American President… and the nation failed; and Civil Rights Leaders will be right there to push forward.
And furthermore, had it not been for Sharpton and others Zimmerman would have not gone through the Hell over the last year and the Hell he and his family will have to live with for the rest of his life.
Like always you have that give muh all your money mentality, don't you have enough sense to understand there are many ways to contribute money?
Civil rights and injustice?
No, what you and your ilk like Sharpton and Jackson want is a society where blacks can commit crime with impunity, no fear of prosecution and for victims to have no way to defend themselves.
That is largely what is wrong in the black community today with the endless raping, robberies, shootings and murders going on where Chicago and other American cities have a death rate higher than many nations who are at war.
You can preach about "whitey" keeping you down all you want, but whitey isn't your problem, it's yourselves and the clowns you have representing you such as Sharpton and Jackson who only get involved when there is a chance they can milk some money out of the situation for their own personal gain.
They wanted soooooooo bad to make this whole trial about black and white, even when the man in question {Zimmerman} isn't even white but that doesn't even matter, Sharpton probably made a couple of million off the trial anyway.
I'll tell you what the end result of this trial is, and that is the fact that Sharpton, Jackson and the Pussycat Panthers showed their true colors of being nothing more than race hustlers and haters.

After all the talks of race wars and riots and going into white neighborhoods to rape and pillage and burn and loot things were actually very quiet, probably because of the lessons learned during this trial that people will fight back and it isn't all that fun to anticipate going out after the verdict to beat and shoot people knowing the old man or the young mother with small children your getting ready to poundcake with 25 or 30 others thugs might find themselves on the business end of a .357 magnum.
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This is the monster that we've created.Equal rights has morphed into"special prosecuters"if the verdict doesn't suit a groups view."Special interest"groups that lobby their"man"in government in an effort to bend our justice system to their corrupt view of justice."Representatives "that do not represent the views of all people.This is not democracy,but tyranny.
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DBB wrote;
"This more frequently than people think. The 'stand your ground' law that NRA lobbied for, is on the books in many states It means that if someone is coming at you and you consider yourself at risk then you can use deadly force. We had an incident here where a student came home drunk and tried to enter what he thought was his home. IT was his neighbors, THe neighbor came downstairs and shot what h thought was an intruder and killed him. His defense was the stand your ground law. THe NRA provided a lawyer for his defense and recied no jail time. Zimmerman will not see jail time but the Civil case that is sure to come will make sure that he does n't profit. Hopefully someone sees him out of place somewhere and freturns the favor,.when he is dead the news will call it irony..some will call it justice.. for a wanabe cop it is just a matter of time "

Your knowledge of SYG, Self Defense and the Castle Doctrine leave a lot to be desired.

I wasn't aware NY has a SYG law - can you cite it?

Under Castle Doctrine you can defend your home from intruders with any force available. Any drunk who comes into your home without your consent is in fact an intruder.

Under Self Defense you must attempt retreat first from an assailant - if your retreat is blocked then you can resort to deadly force if you believe your life is in danger.

SYG grants the right of not having to retreat from an assailant. Under Fla law you are not prohibited from going abroad bearing legal weapons as long as doing so isn't a breach of the peace. Therefore you may resort to deadly force as long as you aren't the aggressor or committing an illegal act.

Then you end your piece by advocating the murder of George Zimmerman - I don't know about NY but in some jurisdictions that is perilously close to soliciting to commit murder.
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At some point the Democrats will have to understand they cannot play both ends against the middle. The are responsible for what ever happens to Mr Zimmerman, and they will be held responsible by the legal Hispanic voters in the coming elections.

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The NAACP has an online petition going right now to push Eric Holder’s Justice Department to bring a federal case against George Zimmermann…
The Martin family has already filed a civil law suit against Zimmermann…
Social media has already started a Zimmerman watch; which means that when Zimmerman (or any of his family members) is spotted in public his location will be tweeted around the world.
This child killer’s life is done.
Patty, even your beloved Obama said he accepts and respects the jury's decision and that you need to move on, peacefully.

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All you fence walkers. There is nothing wrong in believing in justice and equality using sense. These idiots have taken the movements and pushed it to insanity. The insanity rouses people when there is no need most times. The same people blame you for the problems. Noe I don't know if we will ever see a Republic in America again. But I do no if you listen to these agenda based self gluttonous fanatics, you may end up hurt, maimed or dead. The self hating white ones worth more then most of us are the worse. For they will be the real nazis if they lose their cushy living standards. They will turn on their movement views like the French let the Germans into France in World War 2. Trust is okay if it is backed by example. Good luck..

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But Justice did prevail. Those 6 women examined the law, they had taken so many notes, they knew it was a tragedy, but the law was upheld. We can be proud of their difficult decision. Oh, the Jackson's, and Sharpton's of the world will keep going after Zimmerman, but he is strong, and he will overcome the injustice of it all.
And a glorious day it was when law was upheld. Despite the conjectures disseminated by the media, the 6 women maintained objectivity- they are the personification of blind Lady Justice!

Zimmerman appears to have gained weight throughout the course of this trial. He seems very stressed out. I suspect vigilantism and clueless haters. I imagine it is very hard for him to go out doors now. Does Sharpton not feel any remorse from profiting off ruining one's life? Horrible.
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Cat74 wrote:
But Justice did prevail. Those 6 women examined the law, they had taken so many notes, they knew it was a tragedy, but the law was upheld. We can be proud of their difficult decision. Oh, the Jackson's, and Sharpton's of the world will keep going after Zimmerman, but he is strong, and he will overcome the injustice of it all.
"Rev" Al Sharpton vowed on MSNBC last night that "this case will go on!"
Hope you're right, Big Al: For the fraudulent doctoring of the 911 call tape, Zimmerman is in a position to sue the collective A$$es off of NBC. Right on, George!

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This more frequently than people think. The 'stand your ground' law that NRA lobbied for, is on the books in many states It means that if someone is coming at you and you consider yourself at risk then you can use deadly force. We had an incident here where a student came home drunk and tried to enter what he thought was his home. IT was his neighbors, THe neighbor came downstairs and shot what h thought was an intruder and killed him. His defense was the stand your ground law. THe NRA provided a lawyer for his defense and recied no jail time. Zimmerman will not see jail time but the Civil case that is sure to come will make sure that he does n't profit. Hopefully someone sees him out of place somewhere and freturns the favor,.when he is dead the news will call it irony..some will call it justice.. for a wanabe cop it is just a matter of time
C'mon dude. Learn more about the law. Stand your ground has nothing to do with shooting someone who comes inside your house. That is the castle doctrine. You are allowed to assume that someone who is in your house without your permission intends to either kill you or do great bodily harm. I agree with the Castle doctrine and I keep loaded guns in my home just in case someone does break in while I am at home. I do not believe that the NRA provided for a lawyer for this person. Actually, I do not believe this person ever existed anywhere outside your mind. There are just too many points in the story that do not add up. If this REALLY, TRULY happened, please provide a link- especially about the NRA funding of the defense.
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Take consolation that the"Sun King"can't be re-elected.

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As long as the other person does not feel threatened. If you sneezed and he/she feels threatened, he/she has the legal right to shoot and kill you. According to the current statute. You're welcome for the tip :) Play safe.
Know the law, which you do not:
776.012&#8195;Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:
(1)&#8195;He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or
(2)&#8195;Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013.
History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1188, ch. 97-102; s. 2, ch. 2005-27.
776.013&#8195;Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—
(1)&#8195;A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:
(a)&#8195;The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and
(b)&#8195;The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.
(2)&#8195;The presumption set forth in subsection (1) does not apply if:
(a)&#8195;The person against whom the defensive force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence, or vehicle, such as an owner, lessee, or titleholder, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person; or
(b)&#8195;The person or persons sought to be removed is a child or grandchild, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the defensive force is used; or
(c)&#8195;The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity; or
(d)&#8195;The person against whom the defensive force is used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who enters or attempts to enter a dwelling, residence, or vehicle in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person entering or attempting to enter was a law enforcement officer.
(3)&#8195;A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
(4)&#8195;A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.

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There is no justice in America if a jury can come to this conclusion. This is a license to kill anyone any time. It is now OK to kill anyone you don't like. Just attack them, then stand your ground and shoot them if they don't do everything you say.
This trial was rigged. It sets the precedent that killing is now legal.
Glad for this outcome ! If the thug was around my house , I would have shot him also ! People need to come to there senses and understand the thugs , drug dealers and gang bangers are ruining our country ! Each one killed saves many tax dollars by not having to put them in prison after hunting them down and putting them on trial ! I think Mr. Zimmerman should get a medal !
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Patty, even your beloved Obama said he accepts and respects the jury's decision and that you need to move on, peacefully.
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Funny how all the concern for any retribution on Zimmerman. He stalked and confronted someone who he profiled to be a threat. When a teenage boy was kicking his butt he resorted to deadly force to end a confrontation that HE initiated. He COULD have called authorities to report a "suspicious" person. Instead he started the confrontation, used deadly force when it escalated and got away with muder... btw
New York State Penal Law, Article 25 defines:

1) When a “defense,” other than an “affirmative defense,” defined by statute is raised at a trial, the people have the burden of disproving such defense beyond a reasonable doubt.

2) When a defense declared by statute to be an “affirmative defense” is raised at a trial, the defendant has the burden of establishing such defense by a preponderance of the evidence.

This means that where most states require the defendant to prove they were innocent, New York leaves the burden on The People (through the discretion of law enforcement and the justice system) to prove that it was wrong for the “victim” to defend themselves with deadly force.
This means that while it is not called castle doctrine or stand your ground, courts in NY put the burden of proof on the people to prove that the shooting was not justified rather than have the shooter defend his actions..legal double talk where the effect is SYG
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Zimmerman was never guilty of anything.

It was purely Self Defense

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