Jan Brewer signs 'life begins at menstruation' bill, the most draconian anti-abortion law so far

[Kathwynn]

conservative crapola wrote:

The cons have played women for stupid fools all along. The rush dickless/brewer escapades only enhances their troubles. It will be a pleasure to see women voters put them in their place.

Yes it will.. Be even more of a pleasure to watch the like of that fool Coulter scream at how she has to be a responsible adult over her reproduction and body..

Yes I imagine even Sarah Palin daughter will just have to accept that society is not going to tell her what to do with her body..

What a shame.. No nanny state for the far right.

[Jan Brewer Coochi Patrol]

Governor Brewer will undergo the first invasive examination with video posted to YouTube.

[bluestreak resurgent]

cpeter1313 wrote:

We all know what you do with YOUR socks.
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Wow, there was a reach, Pedro.

[zef]

elise in burque wrote:

<quoted text>Make up your mind. If you keep bringing up the U.S Constitution as your argument, you will get a response on that argument. As for human rights, you may not usurp the rights of the born for any rights that you think the unborn have. The rights of the born woman supersede any rights that the unborn may have. Either way, you have a very long row to hoe, if you expect to change the law or the minds of the American people. Good luck, honey.

All humans have the same rights. Birth has nothing to do with who or who isn't human, or who does or does not not have rights. You are just a ranting, blood-crazed bigot on a killing spree.

"If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
— Anatole France, novelist, essayist, Nobel laureate (1844-1924)

[cpeter1313]

If progeny are not desired, then pregnancy and gestation are unnecessary.

So, fetuses have "human rights" but not pregnant women?

"Cower under the feet of women"? What a bizarre idea. You mean because I am not treating them like breeding stock and see them as my equals, I am afraid of them?

Torture you to death? An appealing idea, but no, we can't legally do that.

zef wrote:

<quoted text>What planet are you from? Pregnancy and gestation are required for progeny. Since when do human rights not override the desires of nihilistic killers? Since when do human rights not override any desires? Just because you choose to cower under the feet of women does not make women superior to anyone. Just because you and the women you worship can torture me to death for any lame excuse does not make you or your women superior to me. It just makes me another victim to your nihilistic regime of terror and death. Your vial and nihilistic obsession with who is born or who isn't is purely your own personal prejudice. Your bigotry is not an excuse for killing anyone at any age.
Constitution of the United States
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
posterity
n
1. future or succeeding generations
2. all of one's descendants
n. pl. progeny or prog·e·nies
prog·e·ny
1.
a. One born of, begotten by, or derived from another; an offspring or a descendant.
b. Offspring or descendants considered as a group.
all
adjective
2. the whole number of (used in referring to individuals or particulars, taken collectively): all students.

[cpeter1313]

Slavery is an illegal act.

zef wrote:

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"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
As much as nihilists would like us to believe, pregnancy and birth is not evil or illegal. And even if it were, the human fetus is much to young to be capable of suborning anyone into doing anything.
suborn
tr.v. sub·orned, sub·orn·ing, sub·orns
1. To induce (a person) to commit an unlawful or evil act.

[cpeter1313]

Unless you can codify what these "human rights" are, they are mere rhetoric. Even most human rights advocates refer to born humans a having rights.

Constitutional rights are the only binding right in this country.

zef wrote:

<quoted text>Constitutional rights? What are constitutional rights? Human rights are inherent. All humans naturally have human rights simply because they are humans. Your bigotry against young humans is purely your own personal prejudice, which has nothing to do with who does or does not have rights. And neither does the constitution have anything to do with who does, or does not have rights. The purpose of the constitution is to protect the rights that humans naturally have.
Human rights are commonly understood as "inalienable fundamental rights to which a person is inherently entitled simply because she or he is a human being." Human rights are thus conceived as universal (applicable everywhere) and egalitarian (the same for everyone).
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

[cpeter1313]

Along with Rocky Roccoco?

Jan Brewer Coochi Cops wrote:

At your cervix.

[buckwheat]

zef wrote:

<quoted text>
"If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
— Anatole France, novelist, essayist, Nobel laureate (1844-1924)

No doubt. Billions believe in the foolishness of gods and demons.

[cpeter1313]

At what exact point does a born woman lose the human right to make her own medical decisions? When do men?

zef wrote:

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All humans have the same rights. Birth has nothing to do with who or who isn't human, or who does or does not not have rights. You are just a ranting, blood-crazed bigot on a killing spree.
"If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
— Anatole France, novelist, essayist, Nobel laureate (1844-1924)

[Whocoudadaknowed]

What would you expect from a state that keeps electing Fudd Mccain to office.

[zef]

cpeter1313 wrote:

If progeny are not desired, then pregnancy and gestation are unnecessary.
So, fetuses have "human rights" but not pregnant women?
"Cower under the feet of women"? What a bizarre idea. You mean because I am not treating them like breeding stock and see them as my equals, I am afraid of them?
Torture you to death? An appealing idea, but no, we can't legally do that.
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You mean you are torturing me to death because I see fetus as my equals? It doesn't make any difference to me whether torturing me to death is legal or not, and obviously it doesn't make any difference to you either. Either way I end up dead and tyranny reigns.
Not being allowed to kill people does not make the people you are not allowed to kill superior to you. Breeding stock? Every state of the union has strict laws against forcing women to get pregnant. So no, women are not treated like breeding stock, at least not in this country. Butchering young humans with abortion, however, is treating young humans animals.

[zef]

cpeter1313 wrote:

At what exact point does a born woman lose the human right to make her own medical decisions? When do men?
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Human rights at inalienable. Humans cannot lose human rights.
Humans have the right to necessary medical care. Killing someone under the guise of medical care is not a right, regardless of who does the killing, or who they choose to kill.
I made the medical decision that I need morphine. Why don't I have morphine, why can't I get morphine? I made the medical decision that I need medicinal marajuana. Why don't I have have medicinal marajuana? Why can't I get medicinal marajuana?

[Kathwynn]

Whocoudadaknowed wrote:

What would you expect from a state that keeps electing Fudd Mccain to office.

Considering what is coming out of Arizona these days. His continue reelection might be the most sane thing to happen.. Just saying.

[Kathwynn]

zef wrote:

<quoted text>You mean you are torturing me to death because I see fetus as my equals? It doesn't make any difference to me whether torturing me to death is legal or not, and obviously it doesn't make any difference to you either. Either way I end up dead and tyranny reigns.
Not being allowed to kill people does not make the people you are not allowed to kill superior to you. Breeding stock? Every state of the union has strict laws against forcing women to get pregnant. So no, women are not treated like breeding stock, at least not in this country. Butchering young humans with abortion, however, is treating young humans animals.

When I read you post I keep getting the Warner bros. Porky Pig at the end of the cartoons..
"Th-Th-Th-Th-Th-... That's all, folks."

[elise in burque]

zef wrote:

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All humans have the same rights. Birth has nothing to do with who or who isn't human, or who does or does not not have rights. You are just a ranting, blood-crazed bigot on a killing spree.
"If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
— Anatole France, novelist, essayist, Nobel laureate (1844-1924)

You have histrionic personality disorder, sweetie. Relax;-)

[NASCAR Ned]

Jan Brewer Coochi Patrol wrote:

Governor Brewer will undergo the first invasive examination with video posted to YouTube.

Awsum Mann!!

I want too sea tha videeoh!!

Woohoo! NASCAR Man; yeah",

[zef]

cpeter1313 wrote:

Unless you can codify what these "human rights" are, they are mere rhetoric. Even most human rights advocates refer to born humans a having rights.
Constitutional rights are the only binding right in this country.
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Human rights are principles naturally endowed to humans. Human rights cannot be legislated or codified because human rights exist naturally as a part of what makes us human.
Human rights are not rhetoric. Human rights are the basic principles upon which this country was founded.
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--

The Difference Between Universal Rights, Legislated Rights, and Goods & Services 07/03/2009
The final category is Universal Rights. These are rights and freedoms that are common to all humans on the basis of their existence rather than their citizenship, beliefs, or purchasing power.
http://www.nathankey.com/9/post/2009/07/the-d...

[Meghan]

Vance1 wrote:

anti-abortion law GOOD!!!!
Now Get these welfare bi*ches off the State Tax payers back

Um wouldnt that mean more welfare b*tches as you so eloquently state. Less abortions means more children! But whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Eric Gustafson]

Kathwynn wrote:

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Yes it will.. Be even more of a pleasure to watch the like of that fool Coulter scream at how she has to be a responsible adult over her reproduction and body..
Yes I imagine even Sarah Palin daughter will just have to accept that society is not going to tell her what to do with her body..
What a shame.. No nanny state for the far right.

Ann Coulter butt naked whispering is a contraceptive.