Who still takes global warming seriou...

Who still takes global warming seriously?

There are 30868 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Jan 28, 2010, titled Who still takes global warming seriously?. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

Despite the recent discovery of the e-mails that resulted in "Climate Gate" and the fact this has been one of the coldest and harshest winters in many years, Gov.

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JBH

Richmond, Canada

#29633 Aug 7, 2012
As of August August 7, 2012, medals results for London Olympics are as follows:

Gold Silver Bronze Total
1
People's Republic of China
34 21 18 73
2
United States of America
30 19 21 70
3
Great Britain
22 13 13 48
4
Russian Federation
10 18 20 48
5
Japan
2 13 14 29
6
France
8 9 11 28
7
Germany
6 14 7 27
8
Australia
4 12 9 25
9
South Korea
12 5 6 23
10
Italy
7 6 4 17
11
Netherlands
5 3 6 14
12
Canada
1 3 7 11
13
Hungary
4 2 3 9
14
New Zealand
3 1 5 9
15
Ukraine
3 0 6 9
16
Romania
2 5 2 9
17
Islamic Republic of Iran
4 3 1 8
18
Belarus
3 2 3 8
19
Denmark
2 4 2 8
20
Poland
2 1 5 8
USA is facing challenge not just in sports, but in economics and social living as well (like standard of living and efficiency of a society).
Britain seems to do fine , hanging out there at this time in Olympics, however it will be economic devastating after, as some part of London looks really like a ghost town. While USA and Australia usually get over 25%, 40% respectively in their total medals in swimming, they will be facing risks once they fall in medals in swimming in future Olympics. However, Australia seems to have a breakthrough in track and field while Sally Pearson broke the record in 100M hurdle. Therefore Australia is still a viable competitor than USA in future challenge.
By rating performance per GDP and per population, Canada, as a G8 nation, really does poorly in London Olympics, compared to countries like Netherlands, Hungary, New Zealand,Ukraine, Romania, Islamic Republic of Iran,Belarus, Denmark, Poland.
As Austalian PM said that USA is declining, and many parts of the world see USA going downhill Including the British), both Bush and Obama have done flourishing--not just by outsourcing to polish the building of China's economics, to make the upclimbing of China. However, China is being challenged by others, as it has reached its plateau-surge to this time. The world sees others upclimbing while USA falls and China can no longer go much further.
Amazingly, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland , Netherlands and other Scandanavian countries do well in the best stand in the standard of living as most G7 countries having their people in big debts, cannot hang in there.
The so much destruction and harms done by Bush and Obama, have also hampered the mentality and mind-set of the American people. It does look that US people are facing much trouble ahead, not just in economics. This demonstrates USA people lack the social awareness , intelligence and fact findings about this new changing world.
It is a new age planet, while there can be a lot of different things happening around the world, that people do not know.
whammer jammer

Albuquerque, NM

#29634 Aug 7, 2012
The world turns...years ago, we surpassed the 'global warming' issue....the damage is done. Now, we'll deal with the issues. The industrial revolution pretty much set the stage, put us on the 'fast track'...in the interim, do what you can to preserve, but, the bigger picture? There's nothing you can do to change what is to be. Millions of years of history are there for our study...it's been 'speeded up' because of our abuse of the atmosphere but, it would happen no matter...politics, country preference, citizenship..the world turns, what starts in other countries ends up here, etc. The 'ice-age' will come again. It's already happening. The 'melt' of the polars...raising the sea level..etc. The planet evolution has nothing to do with politics...sorry bubba...if you're basing your election on that....you'll need to wait a couple of thousand years...
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#29635 Aug 8, 2012
In more than 117 years of records, July 2012 stands alone as not only the hottest July on record in the lower 48 United States, but also the hottest of any month on record in that time span. To put it another way, July 2012 was the hottest of more than 1,400 months that we've gone through since 1895.

The report released by the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) on Wednesday says that July 2012 surpassed the previous record hottest month set in July 1936. That year was during the middle of the very dry and hot Dust Bowl era. Senior Meteorologist Stu Ostro (Twitter) says, "Exceeding July 1936 at the peak of the Dust Bowl heat -- is BIG."

July 2012 was 3.3 degrees above the 20th century average. Ostro puts this in perspective, "While three degrees might not seem like much because temperatures can vary a lot more than that from day to day, it’s significant when averaged over a whole month, and particularly so in the summer when temperatures typically have less variation than at other times of year.”

A total of 32 states had a top ten warmest July. Among those, Virginia recorded its hottest July on record and seven more states recorded their second hottest July (North Carolina, Kentucky, Delaware, Illinois, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming).

-NOAA
kal

West Richland, WA

#29636 Aug 8, 2012
gcaveman1 wrote:
In more than 117 years of records, July 2012 stands alone as not only the hottest July on record in the lower 48 United States, but also the hottest of any month on record in that time span. To put it another way, July 2012 was the hottest of more than 1,400 months that we've gone through since 1895.
The report released by the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) on Wednesday says that July 2012 surpassed the previous record hottest month set in July 1936. That year was during the middle of the very dry and hot Dust Bowl era. Senior Meteorologist Stu Ostro (Twitter) says, "Exceeding July 1936 at the peak of the Dust Bowl heat -- is BIG."
July 2012 was 3.3 degrees above the 20th century average. Ostro puts this in perspective, "While three degrees might not seem like much because temperatures can vary a lot more than that from day to day, it’s significant when averaged over a whole month, and particularly so in the summer when temperatures typically have less variation than at other times of year.”
A total of 32 states had a top ten warmest July. Among those, Virginia recorded its hottest July on record and seven more states recorded their second hottest July (North Carolina, Kentucky, Delaware, Illinois, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming).
-NOAA
oh my 'cave', that is good news. we won't have to hide the extreem weather of the 1930ies anymore.

http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/07/extreme-cl...

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#29637 Aug 8, 2012
kal wrote:
<quoted text>oh my 'cave', that is good news. we won't have to hide the extreem weather of the 1930ies anymore.
http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/07/extreme-cl...
What a stupid comment.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#29638 Aug 8, 2012
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, the fake skeptics will be overjoyed that the alarmist Hansen has finally admitted that he was wrong.
They'll also probably fail to note that his doom and gloom scenario was just too rosy.
Agree.

Indeed. The deniers aka fake skeptics fail totally in every aspect of human-induced CC..
Patriot

Longmont, CO

#29639 Aug 8, 2012
The Eco-Tyrants: the Real Invasive Species, the True Useless Eaters. The Unseen Threat Exposed

They will lie, cheat and even steal. They will destroy people’s characters and attack industry using slander if they can get away with it. They will even murder if necessary any one who stands in their way.

They do not care how many people they impoverish and harm. They think they know better how to run our lives and think they have this right to dominate other people. They are not people who live by example showing how to live efficiently with non polluting ways having a better lifestyle. Prince Charles tells his people to do without hot baths saying we have to do with less while he has many mansions, palaces, planes, trains and yachts. Al Gore says we have to reduce our carbon footprint by cutting back on electricity use while he has multiple mansions that are power pigs.

They are authoritarians who do not want to govern, they want to rule over us. They do not seek the benefit society as a whole. They pursue power to dominate. They do not want to mind there own business, they want to be in ours. They do not believe in "Live and Let Live”. They want to put a boot to our faces in the name of saving mother earth...

http://www.thelonestarwatchdog.com/2012/08/08...
menoworry

Farmington, NM

#29640 Aug 8, 2012
Patriot wrote:
The Eco-Polluters: the Real Invasive Species, the True Useless Eaters. The Obvious Threat Exposed.
The Eco-Polluters: the Real Invasive Species, the True Useless Eaters. The Unseen Threat Exposed
They will lie, cheat and even steal. They will destroy people’s characters and attack any attempting to clean our air or water, using slander if they can get away with it. They will even murder if necessary any one who stands in their way.
They do not care how many people they impoverish and harm. They think they know better how to run our lives and think they have this right to dominate other people. They are not people who live by example by showing how to live efficiently with non polluting ways and still have a better lifestyle. Their leaders like Rush Limbaugh tells his ditto heads to squander all the Earth's resources so the rich can justify their mansions, palaces, planes, trains and yachts. Rush has bragged about how large a carbon footprint he has with his power pig mansion and private jet to take him to his golf dates.
They are authoritarians who do not want to govern, they want to rule. They do not seek to benefit society as a whole. They pursue power to dominate. They do not believe in the rights of others. They want to put a boot to our faces in the name of freedom.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#29641 Aug 8, 2012
unpatriot wrote:
The Eco-Tyrants: the Real Invasive Species, the True Useless Eaters. The Unseen Threat Exposed
//////////
litesong wrote:
Good that you credit the quote. But you got to go further back to get the true spirit.

Hitler said: The Jews are definitely a race, but they are not human.
&
Hitler said: For us, it is a problem of whether our nation can ever recover its health, whether the Jewish spirit can ever really be eradicated. Don't be misled into thinking you can fight a disease without killing the carrier, without destroying the bacillus. Don't think you can fight racial tuberculosis without taking care to rid the nation of the carrier of that racial tuberculosis. This Jewish contamination will not subside, this poisoning of the nation will not end, until the carrier himself, the Jew, has been banished from our midst.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#29642 Aug 8, 2012
Thanks to a record warm January-to-June period and intense, long-lasting heat waves during March, June, and July, the U.S. has passed an ominous milestone: with about five months remaining in the year, there have already been more record daily high temperatures set or tied so far this year than were set or tied during all of 2011. And 2011 had the second-warmest summer on record for the lower 48 states.

According to Guy Walton of The Weather Channel, who compiles temperature record statistics using data from the National Climatic Data Center, there were 26,674 daily record highs broken or tied during 2011, and through August 5 there were 27,042 records broken or tied this year. The March and July heat waves clearly gave 2012 the edge over last year. During March alone, 7,755 daily records were set or tied, and 4,420 records were broken or tied during July.
whammer jammer

Albuquerque, NM

#29643 Aug 8, 2012
gcaveman1 wrote:
In more than 117 years of records, July 2012 stands alone as not only the hottest July on record in the lower 48 United States, but also the hottest of any month on record in that time span. To put it another way, July 2012 was the hottest of more than 1,400 months that we've gone through since 1895.
The report released by the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) on Wednesday says that July 2012 surpassed the previous record hottest month set in July 1936. That year was during the middle of the very dry and hot Dust Bowl era. Senior Meteorologist Stu Ostro (Twitter) says, "Exceeding July 1936 at the peak of the Dust Bowl heat -- is BIG."
July 2012 was 3.3 degrees above the 20th century average. Ostro puts this in perspective, "While three degrees might not seem like much because temperatures can vary a lot more than that from day to day, it’s significant when averaged over a whole month, and particularly so in the summer when temperatures typically have less variation than at other times of year.”
A total of 32 states had a top ten warmest July. Among those, Virginia recorded its hottest July on record and seven more states recorded their second hottest July (North Carolina, Kentucky, Delaware, Illinois, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming).
-NOAA
Bottom line, record...scientific research...the process was set in place...years ago. We can't turn back the hands of time....But, we can evade some expectations by performing our ability to recycle. We can't stop the world turning, nor can we stop the inevitable cycle of events. The world will go on. Just as it has for millions of years. What can we do? Not much. The damage is already done. Future? Recycle....save energy. The 'global warming' issue? Done deal. No matter what you do....The earth turns, the moon orbits...etc...the earth will follow it's path...We're on it...ride it out....do what you can. In the interim? There's not much to avoid ...

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#29644 Aug 9, 2012
whammer jammer wrote:
Bottom line, record...scientific research...the process was set in place...years ago. We can't turn back the hands of time....But, we can evade some expectations by performing our ability to recycle. We can't stop the world turning, nor can we stop the inevitable cycle of events. The world will go on. Just as it has for millions of years. What can we do? Not much. The damage is already done. Future? Recycle....save energy. The 'global warming' issue? Done deal. No matter what you do....The earth turns, the moon orbits...etc...the earth will follow it's path...We're on it...ride it out....do what you can. In the interim? There's not much to avoid ...
I've recycled everything possible since the 1940s, never wasted water or energy.
I'm kind to animals, insects and I'm eco friendly.
I believe that global warming is occurring and that mankind is possibly responsible for a tiny amount.
But: I'm sceptical of the power of CO2 and AGW as a threat to civilisation, so I'm called (amongst other things) a denier, work that one out if you can?
menoworry

Farmington, NM

#29645 Aug 9, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>
But: I'm sceptical of the power of CO2 and AGW as a threat to civilisation, so I'm called (amongst other things) a denier, work that one out if you can?
Yeah, I can work it out. You're an idiot to call yourself anything but a dumb arse denier . All one has to do is google CO2 and mass extinctions to realize the power of CO2. Google also the predictions of the effect of a 5 deg C temp rise from our current level to understand the impact that would have on humans. Finally google the rise in man generated CO2 and temp rise to see the connection.
You will say you have done all those things, and I'm sure you have. So after doing that, you still say the right things that dumb arse deniers say. Ergo, you are not a skeptic, you are a denier of the actual scientific research and studies that experts in the field have done; a dumb arse denier.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#29646 Aug 9, 2012
65 million years since the last mass extinction, we must be due for another one, but don't hold your breath waiting for it, you'll become extinct if you do.
Ö¿Ö
menoworry

Farmington, NM

#29647 Aug 9, 2012
[QUOTE who="Tina's Ma-1"]65 million years since the last mass extinction, we must be due for another one, but don't hold your breath waiting for it, you'll become extinct if you do.
Ö¿Ö[/QUOTE]You have to be Tina's mother, Grandma. What dumb arse deniers you both are.
The subject, Grannie, was the effect CO2 can have on life. Not how long ago a ME happened. But, even you should realize that if it happened once due to CO2, it will again. Even Tina's mother could understand that, denying dumb arse Grannie grunt, aka Tina's Ma.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#29648 Aug 9, 2012
menoworry wrote:
<quoted text>so was the extinction of the dinosaur; at least for man it was. But it's not the fish kill itself, droid. It's the cause.(Surely you aren't as stupid as act.)
<quoted text>( No, I change my mind; you are as stupid as you act.) Because, as I said before, the drought of 88 wasn't anywhere near as severe as the one we are now in and wasn't accompanied by all the rest of CC symptoms that are currently being observed throughout the world. Symptoms that show proof GW is causing these strong weather patterns.
It is only proof in your mind because you need it to be proof. The fact is that the drought of 88 while not as bad was bad enough to cause those same barges to be loaded in the same manner, kill fish in the same way.

Also the point with the carp that you are trying hard to ignore is that all the fish kill isn't bad. The carp were killing off the other fish just as fast if not faster than your climate change was.

I sure you are still upset with me pointing out those things that prove that climate change is natural. That it has been ongoing ever since the earth had a climate.

By the way, do you realize what some experts believed killed the dinosuar was climate change.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#29649 Aug 9, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You are losing it.
No, you did NOT find me.
Sure I did, you were not exactly hiding.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#29650 Aug 9, 2012
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/ClimateChang...
So far, 2012 has averaged 2.8C above the mean for the 1960-2012 period. The current warmest year on record is 1998 at +1.8C above the mean. The annual water temperature has been increasing at 0.29C per decade since 1960.
Perhaps more stunning is the decrease in number of days with a water temperature of 32F during that period. These readings are taken 35' below the surface, so when the surface is covered or substantially covered in ice, the water temperature is usually 32. The chart shows that the annual number of 32F readings has been decreasing at a rate of over 1 day per year! In recent years, the rate of change appears to be increasing. Both 2012 and 1998 had 0 such days, while 2002 had just one. By contrast, 1964 had 139 days, and 1971 138 days.
These graphics show an umistakable warming of the Lake Erie climate system. As the region continues to experience warming, winter ice coverage will continue its marked decline. The decrease in ice cover will itself greatly affect the climate of surrounding areas. This will be accomplished by two means:(1) the warmer, open waters will better modify arctic airmasses moving southeast from Canada; and (2) the warmer, open waters will contribute to increased cloudiness & precipitation, which will make conditions less favorable for extreme cold.
Actually if you look further into the past you discover a cycle of water temperatures in the lake. The funny thing is if you go back further than the 1960 you discover that 1960's was a low point in lake temperatures. That before that the temperatures in the lake had been falling That lake temperatures normally fall below 32 in december and are like that till may.

The fact is that lake temperatures are still running about average. That they are not at record and the average number of days where the water temp is below 32 is about the same.

What we are seeing is a caveman reaching hard to come up with something. Something where he can claim that this is the result of man.

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/laketemps/laketem...

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/laketemps/lktemp....
gcaveman1

Pachuta, MS

#29652 Aug 9, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually if you look further into the past you discover a cycle of water temperatures in the lake. The funny thing is if you go back further than the 1960 you discover that 1960's was a low point in lake temperatures. That before that the temperatures in the lake had been falling That lake temperatures normally fall below 32 in december and are like that till may.
The fact is that lake temperatures are still running about average. That they are not at record and the average number of days where the water temp is below 32 is about the same.
What we are seeing is a caveman reaching hard to come up with something. Something where he can claim that this is the result of man.
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/laketemps/laketem...
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/laketemps/lktemp....
Twisty Teener! If you twisted that much in bed, you never would have gotten pregnant.

You links don't prove much. The temp of the lake today could be the same it was on this date 40 years ago, but the AVERAGE temperature is a different thing; and it's up.

However, if you check the highest temperatures recorded on certain days, you'll find some 79's and 80's. High wintertime temperatures push the average up, and you probably weren't swimming in Erie in December or March.

Good thing too, the brain damage from the chemicals is bad enough.

Funny thing is, after all, actually.
gcaveman1

Pachuta, MS

#29653 Aug 9, 2012
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you even bother to look at who did actually wrote them. Actually read what was written. I really love the first one. Even more so since the NOAA's own data debunks that power point presentation.
What you are seeing is the annual budget crunch, please don't cut our funding because we are doing really important things. Or in other words fiction.
Funny thing is, Twisty Teener, the Valley Girl, actually forgot to include any debunking she claims, after all.

The brain damage from swimming in the pollution of Lake Erie when she was a widdle girl makes her think that she knows more than scientists living near the Great Lakes who have been studying the Lakes for decades.

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