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Will Gas Reach $4 a Gallon?

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#440
Mar 5, 2008
 
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Of course it will..Bush went to Columbia to go to war with Venezuela, just to get the oil back into Exxon's control...Greed for OUR oil cartel...
You know it will get to $4,whether it helps destroy the economy or not...Greed of our Politicians and our Master Fuhrer and his SS leader...
As the dollar goes down, the oil will go up and so will gasoline and everything else in this country...
We cannot stop greed and none of the idiotic candidates has even approached that they'd do anything which means they'll do NOTHING.
Greed..nothing more than greed...STOP EXPORTING OUR OIL!!!!!!!!!
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#441
Mar 5, 2008
 
Liberals have put the concern for the 'spotted owl' and such crap ahead of the importance of enough fuel to keep America running affordably.

Now we are feeling the plight that the Liberals have put us in.

Dont blame the oil companies or the government. Blame where blame is due...The Liberals.

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#442
Mar 5, 2008
 
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Some states don't tax gas by the gallon but by the dollar.
These states are now showing a surplus yet raising taxes.
Gas taxes were always supposed to go for highway and bridge repairs but somehow get dumped into general funds while our infastructure suffers.
I think the operative word on all levels of government is accountability.
We have saw the same with gambling revenues, when they were first put on ballots, the money was promised to schools in higher pay for teachers and such, yet it to was dumped into the black hole called the general fund, and teachers got no raises!

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#444
Mar 5, 2008
 
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I think the reason why private companys are sketchy about investing a lot of money in alternative energy sources is because they don't trust the government.
Sooner or later thegovernment will choose one alternative and finance and back it 100%.
If they choose biofuel the companys who spent a ton of money on fuel cells,electric cars,solar or anything else are gonna be left with useless product as competing with the government will be impossible.
Biofuel made from food is a loser, both in real energy production and food supply implications. However, ethanol is currently our best alternative to oil-based fuel, and could be made from cellulose (plant waste). Adding ethanol to the current infrastructure seems like little trouble - add a pump at the station, replace a grade of gas, etc. Raw ingredients are not a big problem, but building refineries would be expensive.

Electric cars have come a long way - Tessla has them now, and I believe the Chevy Volt is on its way. For an electric car, it doesn't matter how the electricity is produced, whether solar, wind, coal, nuclear, etc. They can be driven now with current infrastructure, though if widespread, charging stations would need to be built.

To support this, the government needs merely to support novel ways of creating electricity, perhaps offering a reward for success, and mentoring (if needed) for commercialization. I am certain we have only scratched the surface of the possibilities, and the most viable method will arise naturally with the economic process.

So I envision a short time in the near term where ethanol is used, and then when the nation's fleet ages out, switching to electric cars. The timing for R&D is right, and the phasing is not very painful.
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Mar 5, 2008
 
hope not

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#447
Mar 5, 2008
 
Until the American people retake control of Washington DC, nothing is the country will change, putting a Demo or Repub does not matter. There is nothing Obama, Hillary or McCain can or will do anything to change it, forget that BS!

But it is funny how fuel prices are tools used to get one side or the other elected. Watch the next 8 months, prices will rise, the as election times approach they will fall. You think the oil companies would let someone in the White House that would be harmful to their bottom line?

Oil companies have spent the last 40 years getting to where we are now. They have eliminated refineries nationwaide, we now have mega-refineries, with no possible building of new and limited expansion of exsisting refineries. The majority of these refineries are located in areas of extrem weather, the US gulf coast, so anytime a hurricane sneezes oil prices can go up.

Now here we sit with one industry controling the entire economy of our country! They can make or break any other industry with the push of a few buttons.

Scary isn't it?

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#448
Mar 5, 2008
 
Of course my typing is scary also. Wish I could blame it on my allergies acting up (they are) or fat fingers (they are not really) but the blame rest completely on, POOR TYPING! Sorry All!!
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#449
Mar 5, 2008
 
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Until the American people retake control of Washington DC, nothing is the country will change, putting a Demo or Repub does not matter. There is nothing Obama, Hillary or McCain can or will do anything to change it, forget that BS!
But it is funny how fuel prices are tools used to get one side or the other elected. Watch the next 8 months, prices will rise, the as election times approach they will fall. You think the oil companies would let someone in the White House that would be harmful to their bottom line?
Oil companies have spent the last 40 years getting to where we are now. They have eliminated refineries nationwaide, we now have mega-refineries, with no possible building of new and limited expansion of exsisting refineries. The majority of these refineries are located in areas of extrem weather, the US gulf coast, so anytime a hurricane sneezes oil prices can go up.
Now here we sit with one industry controling the entire economy of our country! They can make or break any other industry with the push of a few buttons.
Scary isn't it?
Huh, so it's the oil companies that don't wish to build refineries? Let's see here, there hasn't been a single refinery built since 1979 due to ENVIRONMENTALISTS and the fact that nobody wants one in their backyard. Has nothing to do with the oil companies.

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#450
Mar 5, 2008
 
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Biofuel made from food is a loser, both in real energy production and food supply implications. However, ethanol is currently our best alternative to oil-based fuel, and could be made from cellulose (plant waste). Adding ethanol to the current infrastructure seems like little trouble - add a pump at the station, replace a grade of gas, etc. Raw ingredients are not a big problem, but building refineries would be expensive.
Biofuels from food sources is just one of many alternitives. I read somewhere last year of a pine tree, I think it was, that produces more gal. per acre than corn and grows fast. The thing to remember is biofuels are renewable, and a balance will be met over time between fuel and food production.
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Electric cars have come a long way - Tessla has them now, and I believe the Chevy Volt is on its way. For an electric car, it doesn't matter how the electricity is produced, whether solar, wind, coal, nuclear, etc. They can be driven now with current infrastructure, though if widespread, charging stations would need to be built.
To support this, the government needs merely to support novel ways of creating electricity, perhaps offering a reward for success, and mentoring (if needed) for commercialization. I am certain we have only scratched the surface of the possibilities, and the most viable method will arise naturally with the economic process.
I agree electric power will be an important segment, the limits will be on the power to move larger vehicles log distance, freight trains and semi's being the examples. However biodiesel could be a major influence on this. But for the commutes to work, shopping or taking the kids to school, that could be in the near future. We see the phasing out already underway with the hybrid cars available now, as the use of electricity as a viable power source for cars is proven, full electric cars will become avaiable.
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#451
Mar 5, 2008
 
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Well, of course it will! Supply is going down, and demand is going up. duh!
Here is an editorial that sums up the problem pretty well.

http://www.worldenergysource.com/articles%2Fp...
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#452
Mar 5, 2008
 
When you make $6000 an hour, it doesn't matter if there are people who can't pay their home heating bills. You know, you're too high up on your horse to hear the average people suffering. Either that are you choose to not look our way.....
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#453
Mar 5, 2008
 
Free enterprise is one thing, but 10 billion dollar quarterly profits are obscene. Is it a coinicidence that those running this country have heavy investments in oil? I think not. Does anyone really think that Dick Cheney cares how much a gallon of gasoline costs? Or Hillary Clinton for that matter (Just to keep you right wingers happy).
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Mar 5, 2008
 
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Biofuels from food sources is just one of many alternitives. I read somewhere last year of a pine tree, I think it was, that produces more gal. per acre than corn and grows fast. The thing to remember is biofuels are renewable, and a balance will be met over time between fuel and food production.
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I agree electric power will be an important segment, the limits will be on the power to move larger vehicles log distance, freight trains and semi's being the examples. However biodiesel could be a major influence on this. But for the commutes to work, shopping or taking the kids to school, that could be in the near future. We see the phasing out already underway with the hybrid cars available now, as the use of electricity as a viable power source for cars is proven, full electric cars will become avaiable.
Most electricity in this country is from COAL burning plants. We have more coal than God, if only we could burn it more cleanly. with coal at such a low cost, burning it cleanly would still be cheap.
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#455
Mar 5, 2008
 
Humanist wrote:
Free enterprise is one thing, but 10 billion dollar quarterly profits are obscene. Is it a coinicidence that those running this country have heavy investments in oil? I think not. Does anyone really think that Dick Cheney cares how much a gallon of gasoline costs? Or Hillary Clinton for that matter (Just to keep you right wingers happy).
Hell no they don't care how much the cost of a gallon of gas... They don't even KNOW the price of a gallon of gas. Did anybody see bush stutter to the reporter asking what he thought of $4/gal the other day? He dosen't have a clue. People need to start concerving by using other sources of transportation like walking, biking, carpooling WHEN POSSIBLE and stop wasting fuel.

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#456
Mar 5, 2008
 
The Liberals havent been in office for the seven years. The Liberals havent squandered 4 trillion dollars.
proudredneck wrote:
Liberals have put the concern for the 'spotted owl' and such crap ahead of the importance of enough fuel to keep America running affordably.
Now we are feeling the plight that the Liberals have put us in.
Dont blame the oil companies or the government. Blame where blame is due...The Liberals.

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#457
Mar 5, 2008
 
This is starting to look like what was happening when Carter was in the White House.
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#458
Mar 5, 2008
 
My Suncor stock is up to over 108 today. I hope gasoline goes to 10 bucks a gallon because the higher it goes, the more I make. By the way, before you whiney ibs start complaining a large gross royalty tax is placed upon Suncor to help pay for Canada's universal health care system. Naturally you too are happy that gas is rising too because this helps pay for the free health care that is the right of mankind blah blah blah

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#459
Mar 5, 2008
 
by the year 2010, the average price for a gallon of gasoline will be $5.25. According to a recent study conducted by the think tank, P & S Enterprises, Inc. Meanwhile wages will be stagnant and jobs will be lost overseas in record numbers. The study shows that we will enter a depression to rival the Great Depression of 1929 by th year 2011.
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#460
Mar 5, 2008
 
Who was Carter and when was he in the white house. I though he was in the out house in the peanut field.
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#462
Mar 5, 2008
 
I live in sunny California. I refuse to buy a car due to the unbelievable traffic, parking problems, road rage, mantinance, insurance, threat of it being stolen and of course, gas prices. Here a gallon of gas is $3.70 for premium. I chose to take public transportation, but even a monthly bus pass is $62.00, and an all day pass is $5.00. Well, the government is throwing us a bone with the $1200.00 per couple rebate this spring. That will pay a few utility bills and a couple of trips to the movies (need to relax).
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