Minnesota becomes 12th state to OK gay marriage

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As a crowd of thousands roared from the lawn of the state Capitol, Minnesota Gov.

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<quoted text>Which goes to show that not only are they trying to hide something by being so hateful to gays, it also shows that no matter how hard they try to believe that it's a 'chosen' sin. But no matter how hard they try to believe that it's a sin and they are not a sinner in that way, it happens naturally which means that it is natural. When will they give that all-powerful, all-knowing being the advantage of knowing more than what's been beaten into their heads by preachers who are hiding the same tendencies?
No doubt. Most pew warmers have no idea what is actually in the Bible or how it fits together. They all want to get on the short bus to Heaven but nobody wants to die.
Go figure!!!

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Better check your own before pointing fingers. Yours should say, "...poor grammar and punctuation MAKE you look ignorant."
Gotta love it.

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I see all the homophobes have left since the Supreme Court ruled in favor of gay marriage. Thank you to the members who have actually read and understand our Constitution.

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I see all the homophobes have left since the Supreme Court ruled in favor of gay marriage. Thank you to the members who have actually read and understand our Constitution.
They all went to the local homophobe bar and are crying into their beer.
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<quoted text>Not to worry. It's fairly obvious you never learned any to begin with.
Haha well look who piped up! You don't know crap! Shut up! You don't know my stand on this issue!

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Well,again,Congratulations Minnesota the 12th state to pass marriage equality! And now,thanks to the Supreme court upholding our great Constitution,Congratulations to the soon to be 13th and most populous state,California! May Prop 8 rest in peace,or hell right where it belongs! Which state is next I'm wondering? Any guesses out there good people? ;)
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Well,again,Congratulations Minnesota the 12th state to pass marriage equality! And now,thanks to the Supreme court upholding our great Constitution,Congratulations to the soon to be 13th and most populous state,California! May Prop 8 rest in peace,or hell right where it belongs! Which state is next I'm wondering? Any guesses out there good people? ;)
hoping hawaii - would love to go to hawaii next year to celebrate & get married LEGALLY.

guessing that maybe colorado and hawaii, though. they do seem to be the closest.
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Studies show that homophobic men are most aroused when shown gay porn.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-q...
It's important to understand that many research studies, especially in the social pseudo-science arena (e.g. psychology), are far from objective or scientific in nature because their major sources of funding come from partisan foundations, governments, wealthy donors etc. with a political agenda. Moreover, researchers and scientists may have their own ideological reasons for manipulating the methodology of their studies to produce a desired result. There are many historical examples to support this claim.

For instance, Dr. Simon LeVay hypothalamus study, which catapulted the idea that some men are born “gay”, was later discredited because scientists who replicated his research could not achieve similar results or arrive at similar conclusions. It's important to note that Dr. Simon LeVay was a homosexual, and this probably explains his motivation to fabricate the research results with sparse and dubious data.

The study that WasteWater referred to doesn't deserve any credence because no one knows if the subjects being examined were actually heterosexual men who opposed homosexuality. Just because a person claims to be someone or something doesn't make it true. It’s likely this study was conducted to attract additional grants from pro-gay institutional or individual donors to further research in other more substantive areas.
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It's important to understand that many research studies, especially in the social pseudo-science arena (e.g. psychology), are far from objective or scientific in nature because their major sources of funding come from partisan foundations, governments, wealthy donors etc. with a political agenda. Moreover, researchers and scientists may have their own ideological reasons for manipulating the methodology of their studies to produce a desired result. There are many historical examples to support this claim.
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The study that WasteWater referred to doesn't deserve any credence because no one knows if the subjects being examined were actually heterosexual men who opposed homosexuality. Just because a person claims to be someone or something doesn't make it true. It’s likely this study was conducted to attract additional grants from pro-gay institutional or individual donors to further research in other more substantive areas.
PROVE IT.

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<quoted text>You did pretty well up until the above point. Then you had to add a religious taboo in place of scientific observances.
Fully 1/4 of all species on earth are homosexual or bi-sexual. It's a proven point. It's a natural thing, not something forced on them by opinion.
How do you explain the number of closet homosexuals in the pulpit if it is not natural and they believe it's a sin? They didn't 'choose' to be homosexual. But they did choose to be indoctrinated and ignore all scientific data in lieu of a 2000 year old book.
If sexual preference in inborn, and if "natural" sexual orientation deserves legal recognition and protection, then shouldn't pedophiles deserve equal recognition and protection under the law? If they’re biologically oriented to feel attraction toward children, by no fault of their own, then doesn't it stand to reason that the natural basis for their tendency warrants the same rights as other sexual minorities? Does that argument make sense? I don’t think so.

Furthermore, so what if 1/4 of all species on earth are homosexual or bi-sexual. If 1/8 of all species on earth copulate with their offspring, does that make it right for humans to do the same? Should humans regress to an animalistic state?

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It's important to understand that many research studies, especially in the social pseudo-science arena (e.g. psychology), are far from objective or scientific in nature because their major sources of funding come from partisan foundations, governments, wealthy donors etc. with a political agenda. Moreover, researchers and scientists may have their own ideological reasons for manipulating the methodology of their studies to produce a desired result. There are many historical examples to support this claim.
For instance, Dr. Simon LeVay hypothalamus study, which catapulted the idea that some men are born “gay”, was later discredited because scientists who replicated his research could not achieve similar results or arrive at similar conclusions. It's important to note that Dr. Simon LeVay was a homosexual, and this probably explains his motivation to fabricate the research results with sparse and dubious data.
The study that WasteWater referred to doesn't deserve any credence because no one knows if the subjects being examined were actually heterosexual men who opposed homosexuality. Just because a person claims to be someone or something doesn't make it true. It’s likely this study was conducted to attract additional grants from pro-gay institutional or individual donors to further research in other more substantive areas.
Nonsense. Using funding sources as a means to contradict study results is simply a straw man argument.

Better luck next time. Straw men don't fly.

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PROVE IT.
He can't so he resorts to a feckless straw man argument. What a total waste of time.
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PROVE IT.
The onus to prove pro-gay research propaganda (veiled as science) is on you not me, my friend.

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The onus to prove pro-gay research propaganda (veiled as science) is on you not me, my friend.
Actually, there is no onus whatsoever, it's irrelevant to the topic, and to the constitutional guarantee of equal protection of the law.

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The onus to prove pro-gay research propaganda (veiled as science) is on you not me, my friend.
You haven't refuted even a single item in the study. Go back to your sandbox child. The study is irrefutable. Homophobic men in a random sample, were all stimulated by images of gay men having sex at a significant higher rate than all others. FACT

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Minnesota is still the 12th state. California is now the 13th state.

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The onus to prove pro-gay research propaganda (veiled as science) is on you not me, my friend.
you're the one stating basically those studies are invalid. you prove your accusations with whatever "evidence" you think you've found, something to substantiate your stance. you're the one making the statements about the studies. you prove you're right by whatever countering studies or scientific publications you can.

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you're the one stating basically those studies are invalid. you prove your accusations with whatever "evidence" you think you've found, something to substantiate your stance. you're the one making the statements about the studies. you prove you're right by whatever countering studies or scientific publications you can.
Breaking news to all and an F.Y.I. To all who care! The 9th Circuit court in California has just announced that the stay on their decision on Prop 8 has now been lifted! Which means that Marriage equality is now the law of the land for ever in the state of California,the most populous state! History has been made once again! The unconstitutional Prop 8 has now been heaped on that great crap heap of history along with the other B.S.! WU!!! HU!!!

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Separation of church and state you retards!

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