Minnesota becomes 12th state to OK gay marriage

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As a crowd of thousands roared from the lawn of the state Capitol, Minnesota Gov.
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<quoted text>Well look who just "failed miserably" yet again...
dud, go have a drink if all you have to complain about is how someone types their message on topix. you're a wound up a little tight, there, dud.

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<quoted text>Speaking of points, you obviously didn't get mine. Your poor grammar and punctuation makes you look ignorant.
Better check your own before pointing fingers. Yours should say, "...poor grammar and punctuation MAKE you look ignorant."

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Sneaky Pete wrote:
<quoted text>Well look who just "failed miserably" yet again...
You!

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dud, go have a drink if all you have to complain about is how someone types their message on topix. you're a wound up a little tight, there, dud.
Hey "dud", I did all of my drinking last night, got laid this afternoon, and am relaxing to the soothing sounds of Mark Levin on the AM dial as we speak. So contrary to you thinking I'm "a wound up a little tight", it's actually quite the opposite.

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<quoted text>Hey "dud", I did all of my drinking last night, got laid this afternoon, and am relaxing to the soothing sounds of Mark Levin on the AM dial as we speak. So contrary to you thinking I'm "a wound up a little tight", it's actually quite the opposite.
ummm...the correct term for that would be you masturbated this afternoon. getting laid means a woman would want to actually touch you without getting paid...

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<quoted text>ummm...the correct term for that would be you masturbated this afternoon. getting laid means a woman would want to actually touch you without getting paid...
Speak for yourself, Butch. Just because you're not getting laid, doesn't mean the rest of us aren't.

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""Sigmund Freud, theorized that people often have the most hateful and negative attitudes towards things they secretly crave, but feel that they shouldn't have.
If Freud is right, then perhaps men who are the most opposed to male homosexuality have particularly strong homosexual urges for other men.""
I think that is completely accurate. The loudest of the homophobes does not realize he is announcing his homosexuality, instead believing he is proving he is "a real man", like any real man would be bothered by a homosexual man.
So very true. Your last post too.

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What a load of crap. Most mammalian species mate based on estrus, and follow pheremonal signals that the female is ready. Most species will mate with close relatives, especially siblings. They generally do not mate with their mothers because there is still a social order involved; offspring would not be considered worthy mates. On the other hand, humans have been quite happy to hump their siblings, from the egyptians to the borgias and onward. Small tribal units are by necessity inbred.
Interspecies mating, again generally relies on pheremones, but only someone who gets their info from disney thinks it doesn't happen. Anyone in the pet-owner community can tell you about the dog that tried to screw the cat or a rabbit, and about 30 seconds of googling will point out such things as amphibians which will mate with anything.
There is no homophobia in nature.
Evolutionists, btw, don't even get involved with the social meanings of customs, because they are biologists not sociologists. Where do you get your material? It's hysterical!
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Thesis: Humans have evolved with certain inborn inhibitions that biologically serve to promote the preservation of the Homo Sapien species, and improve the chance of successful reproduction and the genetic diversity, health, and survivability of their offspring.
For centuries, anthropologists and biologists studying different human tribes, ethnic groups, cultures, and civilizations have observed that humans, and lesser evolved mammals, overwhelmingly avoid certain behaviors regardless of environment, available resources, or social context. The instinctual behaviors include but are not limited to: interspecies mating, intergenerational mating, and close family inbreeding.
The fact that these three behaviors are universally avoided regardless of geography, religion or culture suggests they are restrained by instincts that serve a useful and evolutionary purpose. Consider the scientific rational for the following generally avoided behaviors:
Inter-species mating (interbreeding): Mammals are biologically hardwired to avoid mating with other mammalian species because of anatomic incompatibility and failure to procreate. This instinct protects the continuation of a species by restricting sexual drive to anatomically compatible mating partners of the same mammalian group. Without this biological instinct, mammals would erroneously seek out incompatible species for reproduction, fail to reproduce, and threaten the existence of their own species.
Intergenerational mating: Fertile mammals, including humans, instinctually avoid mating with infertile members of the opposite sex. Physical aging provides a useful biological purpose, which is to signal fertility and help mammals direct their sexual drive to members that offer the best chance of reproductive success. This explains why human males would prefer to copulate with a young woman rather than a post-menopausal woman. Without this hard-wired preference, mammals would erroneously direct their sexual drive towards infertile mates (including the sexually un/under-developed), fail to reproduce, and threaten the existence of their own species.
Close-Family Inbreeding: Mammals, including primates, instinctually avoid mating with close kin (such as the mother, father, and sibling) and instead seek out partners outside of the nuclear family to secure the genetic diversity and health of their offspring. Without this innate instinct, mammals would misdirect their sexual drive to close relatives, produce genetically “defective” offspring, and threaten the adaptability and survival of future generations.
It has been universally observed that humans have developed strong cultural taboos against bestiality (inter-species mating), wide-gap intergenerational mating, and incest. Many religions ascribe meaning to these inborn instincts and interpret them as “God’s laws.”
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Because children, especially daughters, were property.
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I know, what a cop out that is. How can we ever take our resident pew warmers seriously if they play little school yard games like this?
1 COR. 7:36 AS ("But if a man thinketh that he behaveth himself unseemly toward his virgin daughter...and if need so requireth, let him do what he will; he sinneth not; let them marry")
I still want someone to tell me why they think it is OK for a father to marry his daughter because he dreams of molesting her.

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Rational Evolutionist wrote:
Thesis: Humans have evolved with certain inborn inhibitions that biologically serve to promote the preservation of the Homo Sapien species, and improve the chance of successful reproduction and the genetic diversity, health, and survivability of their offspring.
For centuries, anthropologists and biologists studying different human tribes, ethnic groups, cultures, and civilizations have observed that humans, and lesser evolved mammals, overwhelmingly avoid certain behaviors regardless of environment, available resources, or social context. The instinctual behaviors include but are not limited to: interspecies mating, intergenerational mating, and close family inbreeding.
The fact that these three behaviors are universally avoided regardless of geography, religion or culture suggests they are restrained by instincts that serve a useful and evolutionary purpose. Consider the scientific rational for the following generally avoided behaviors:
Inter-species mating (interbreeding): Mammals are biologically hardwired to avoid mating with other mammalian species because of anatomic incompatibility and failure to procreate. This instinct protects the continuation of a species by restricting sexual drive to anatomically compatible mating partners of the same mammalian group. Without this biological instinct, mammals would erroneously seek out incompatible species for reproduction, fail to reproduce, and threaten the existence of their own species.
Intergenerational mating: Fertile mammals, including humans, instinctually avoid mating with infertile members of the opposite sex. Physical aging provides a useful biological purpose, which is to signal fertility and help mammals direct their sexual drive to members that offer the best chance of reproductive success. This explains why human males would prefer to copulate with a young woman rather than a post-menopausal woman. Without this hard-wired preference, mammals would erroneously direct their sexual drive towards infertile mates (including the sexually un/under-developed), fail to reproduce, and threaten the existence of their own species.
Close-Family Inbreeding: Mammals, including primates, instinctually avoid mating with close kin (such as the mother, father, and sibling) and instead seek out partners outside of the nuclear family to secure the genetic diversity and health of their offspring. Without this innate instinct, mammals would misdirect their sexual drive to close relatives, produce genetically “defective” offspring, and threaten the adaptability and survival of future generations.
It has been universally observed that humans have developed strong cultural taboos against bestiality (inter-species mating), wide-gap intergenerational mating, and incest. Many religions ascribe meaning to these inborn instincts and interpret them as “God’s laws.”
While many evolutionists don’t ascribe any cultural meaning to these inhibitions, they do recognize their profound biological function and evolutionary purpose.
Considering the reasons provided herein, if you feel an inexplicable repulsion or discomfort toward homosexual copulation- understand that your sentiment is not prejudicial (i.e. homophobic) but biological. Your sentiment is based on a natural procreative instinct that for millions of years has served to ensure humanity’s propagation. Social conditioning and acculturation alone may not be enough to reverse this normal physiological hardwiring.
Mammals avoid inter-species mating you stated? Well sport how about the over 1,500 species that do indeed exhibit homosexual tendency's? Kind of shoots a hole right through your theories now doesn't it? Back to the drawing board for you! You've just been proven wrong,so sorry but so very glad I could set you straight and help you out!

1,500 examples of homosexuality in the animal kingdom!

http://www.health.am/sex/more/1500-animal-spe...

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Rational Evolutionist wrote:
Thesis: Humans have evolved with certain inborn inhibitions that biologically serve to promote the preservation of the Homo Sapien species, and improve the chance of successful reproduction and the genetic diversity, health, and survivability of their offspring.
For centuries, anthropologists and biologists studying different human tribes, ethnic groups, cultures, and civilizations have observed that humans, and lesser evolved mammals, overwhelmingly avoid certain behaviors regardless of environment, available resources, or social context. The instinctual behaviors include but are not limited to: interspecies mating, intergenerational mating, and close family inbreeding.
The fact that these three behaviors are universally avoided regardless of geography, religion or culture suggests they are restrained by instincts that serve a useful and evolutionary purpose. Consider the scientific rational for the following generally avoided behaviors:
Inter-species mating (interbreeding): Mammals are biologically hardwired to avoid mating with other mammalian species because of anatomic incompatibility and failure to procreate. This instinct protects the continuation of a species by restricting sexual drive to anatomically compatible mating partners of the same mammalian group. Without this biological instinct, mammals would erroneously seek out incompatible species for reproduction, fail to reproduce, and threaten the existence of their own species.
Intergenerational mating: Fertile mammals, including humans, instinctually avoid mating with infertile members of the opposite sex. Physical aging provides a useful biological purpose, which is to signal fertility and help mammals direct their sexual drive to members that offer the best chance of reproductive success. This explains why human males would prefer to copulate with a young woman rather than a post-menopausal woman. Without this hard-wired preference, mammals would erroneously direct their sexual drive towards infertile mates (including the sexually un/under-developed), fail to reproduce, and threaten the existence of their own species.
Close-Family Inbreeding: Mammals, including primates, instinctually avoid mating with close kin (such as the mother, father, and sibling) and instead seek out partners outside of the nuclear family to secure the genetic diversity and health of their offspring. Without this innate instinct, mammals would misdirect their sexual drive to close relatives, produce genetically “defective” offspring, and threaten the adaptability and survival of future generations.
It has been universally observed that humans have developed strong cultural taboos against bestiality (inter-species mating), wide-gap intergenerational mating, and incest. Many religions ascribe meaning to these inborn instincts and interpret them as “God’s laws.”
While many evolutionists don’t ascribe any cultural meaning to these inhibitions, they do recognize their profound biological function and evolutionary purpose.
Considering the reasons provided herein, if you feel an inexplicable repulsion or discomfort toward homosexual copulation- understand that your sentiment is not prejudicial (i.e. homophobic) but biological. Your sentiment is based on a natural procreative instinct that for millions of years has served to ensure humanity’s propagation. Social conditioning and acculturation alone may not be enough to reverse this normal physiological hardwiring.
ummm...dude, you have Neandertal DNA in you....because two species interbred...

you should try not to talk about shit you have no idea of , lest you look like this big of an ass again...
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Mammals avoid inter-species mating you stated? Well sport how about the over 1,500 species that do indeed exhibit homosexual tendency's?
Those my friend are considered biological aberrations, also known as freaks of nature.
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<quoted text>ummm...dude, you have Neandertal DNA in you....because two species interbred...
you should try not to talk about shit you have no idea of , lest you look like this big of an ass again...
The continuity of of biological strategy is something that you'll completely deny no matter the overwhelming evolutionary logic of it.
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<quoted text>ummm...dude, you have Neandertal DNA in you....because two species interbred...
you should try not to talk about shit you have no idea of , lest you look like this big of an ass again...
*Inter-species mating (interbreeding): Mammals are biologically hardwired to avoid mating with other mammalian species because of anatomic incompatibility and failure to procreate.

If Neanderthals and modern humans were able to able to successfully procreate, therefore indicating anatomic and reproductive compatibility, then they should be part of the same species.

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Anonymous, this is a legal issue, and it appears that the US Supreme Court has disagreed with your arguments.
"What has been explained to this point should more than suffice to establish that the principal purpose and the necessary effect of this law are to demean those persons who are in a lawful same-sex marriage. This requires the Court to hold, as it now does, that DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the liberty of the person protected by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution."
-Justice Kennedy, delivering the opinion for the majority
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12...
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Reverend Alan wrote:
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""Sigmund Freud, theorized that people often have the most hateful and negative attitudes towards things they secretly crave, but feel that they shouldn't have.
If Freud is right, then perhaps men who are the most opposed to male homosexuality have particularly strong homosexual urges for other men.""
In the same vein of your "logic," people who are the most opposed to pedophilia (another type of sexual deviancy) secretly crave this abhorrent and immoral behavior. Does that make sense? I don't think so.

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lides wrote:
Anonymous, this is a legal issue, and it appears that the US Supreme Court has disagreed with your arguments.
"What has been explained to this point should more than suffice to establish that the principal purpose and the necessary effect of this law are to demean those persons who are in a lawful same-sex marriage. This requires the Court to hold, as it now does, that DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the liberty of the person protected by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution."
-Justice Kennedy, delivering the opinion for the majority
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12...
Indeed. The court has no use for such irrelevant tangents.

DOMA is dust.
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<quoted text>Hey "dud", I did all of my drinking last night, got laid this afternoon, and am relaxing to the soothing sounds of Mark Levin on the AM dial as we speak. So contrary to you thinking I'm "a wound up a little tight", it's actually quite the opposite.
drinking last night, having sex in the afternoon.

get a job.

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There are now 13 states where same sex marriage is legal. =)

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There are now 13 states where same sex marriage is legal.=)
Not exactly. The whole ball of wax was turned back to the California judicial system. SCOTUS dismissed the entire Prop 8 legal proceeding due to lack of standing.

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