In America, atheists are still in the closet

Apr 11, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Spiked

So do many other interest and identity groups. Complaint is our political lingua franca: it's what Occupiers, Tea Partiers, Wall Street titans, religious and irreligious people share.

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SupaAFC

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Put up or shut up.
Do stop wasting my time.
Don't believe I read your posts further than a few lines.
Put up or shut up.
What time of yours do I possibly have to waste when you devote 80 plus posts a day to this forum?

Put up little boy: show me where you got the Macmillan quote from.

Define democracy.

Explain why you get to break your own rules and be right, but why everybody else is wrong whether they play by your rules or not.

Come on, manchild. My mallet needs to whack you some more.

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What time of yours do I possibly have to waste when you devote 80 plus posts a day to this forum?
You don't require twenty seconds per post.

Put up or shut up.
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barefoot2626 wrote:
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You don't require twenty seconds per post.
Put up or shut up.
Maybe you have got confused:

You - yes, you - made the claim.

Adults are expected to back up their claims.

You, my manchild friend, have to take something called -responsibility- for your claim and back it up, so show me where you got the Macmillan quote from. Mommy and Daddy cannot help you; you need to do this by yourself like a big boy.

For all your talk of British people being cowards it sure is ironic how you run away from your responsibilities. Is that what you think being big and manly is about? Acting like a child? Crying and begging other people to leave you alone when cornered? It sure seems that way.

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Maybe you have got confused:
Put up or shut up.

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Adults are expected to back up their claims.
Exactly.

Put up or shut up.

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Put up or shut up.
Troll!

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Exactly.
Put up or shut up.
Troll!

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Wipe your chin, Meatball.

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STOCKHOLM—The Swedish royal family is gearing up for the lavish wedding of its crown princess Saturday, even as more citizens are saying the country should divorce itself from the monarchy.

Crown Princess Victoria and Daniel Westling were presented with china at the Royal Palace in Stockholm on June 3.

The royal family is something of an anachronism in a country that prides itself on being one of the most equal in the world. For decades, a majority of Swedish lawmakers have been in favor of abolishing the monarchy, but no political party has had the stomach to pursue it.

Royalists and republicans struck a deal in 1974 that allowed the king to remain head of state, but without any executive powers. Ever since, Sweden has been, in the words of then-Prime Minister Olof Palme, a "pen stroke from a republic."

Almost 40 years since the compromise was struck, more than 200,000 people are expected to line the streets of Stockholm to see Crown Princess Victoria and Daniel Westling, her former personal trainer, take a lap of honor in their horse-drawn carriage from the royal castle through central Stockholm and back again. To further underscore that this isn't an average wedding, 18 fighter jets and 5,000 troops have been called out to pay tribute to the couple.

But it is far from certain that Victoria, 32 years old, will inherit the crown from her father, 64-year-old King Carl XVI Gustaf. Popular support is on a gentle, but steady, downward slide. According to an April poll by Gothenburg University's SOM-Institute, the proportion of Swedes in favor of the monarchy has slid to 56%, from 62% six years ago, and is the slimmest majority since the institute started polling. Attempts to reach the royal family were unsuccessful.

Some say the weakening support of late is due to Victoria's choice of husband—a regular, middle-class guy from the rural town of Ockelbo in central Sweden.

Others cite public discontent at having to foot the bill for the wedding. Taxpayers are coughing up 10 million kronor ($1.3 million) for the wedding alone, before factoring in the cost of restoring the church, new uniforms for police officers, cleaning and other necessities. The city of Stockholm is also splashing out eight million kronor on a two-week-long festival tied to the wedding called "Love Stockholm 2010." And critics are unlikely to be mollified by the prospect of free subway rides on Saturday, courtesy of Stockholm's taxpayer-funded transportation authority.

"For all of us who weren't too fond of the whole monarchy deal, this has really triggered us to do something," says Vilma Seth, organizer of "Real Love Stockholm," one of the many antiroyalist parties taking place in the capital this weekend.

"I don't understand why politicians refuse to do something about the monarchy," Ms. Seth says. "I think the way a country is run should reflect its values."

Those who favor hanging onto the monarchy often mention the king's role as a representative of the country and his work supporting Swedish companies abroad. Whether that work justifies the 110 million kronor the government pays him every year is a matter of hot debate.

And while the national retail organization is forecasting 2.5 billion kronor in domestic sales of official wedding merchandise, Swedes may be overestimating the allure of their monarchy to foreigners.
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Put up or shut up.
I did not make the claim.

You did. You lied.
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<quoted text>Exactly.
Back up your claim, manchild.

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I did not make the claim..
No, Stickums, you did make the claim.

Put up or shut up.
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No, Stickums, you did make the claim.
Put up or shut up.
And the quote for the claim is where?

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And the quote for the claim is where?
Which one do you want?

Your quote that I never cite my sources?

put up or shut up.
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Which one do you want?
Your quote that I never cite my sources?
put up or shut up.
Nice try at trying to change the claim.

I have already backed my claim that you took your quote about Macmillan from Wikipedia by, surprise surprise, showing the exact same quote from Wikipedia.

You claimed you got it from somewhere

The onus is on -you- to show me where you "really" got the quote from.

Put up, manchild. I am sure you have managed to shift responsibility to other people throughout your sordid life, but I am not going to wipe your backside for you.

Time to be a grown-up and admit you lied.

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Wipe your chin, Meatball.
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Sweden is also a democracy

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I have already backed my claim that you took your quote about Macmillan
Actually, you didn't.

And we started with you saying I never cite sources.

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Macmillan from Wikipedia by, surprise surprise, showing the exact same quote from Wikipedia.
And I showed you the little number at the end of the EXACT quote which I pointed out: was the source where the anonymous writer WIKI got.

You do understand that WIKI isn't the original source for most of what it posts?

You do understand why they have those little numbers?

You pretend to be a college graduate but you don't know what a footnote is?

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Review: Macmillan was the unanimous choice of the sitting Conservative cabinet; he was duly appointed the new PM.
Bump.

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"Although the media expected Butler would get the nod, a survey of the Cabinet done for the Queen showed Macmillan was the nearly unanimous choice, and he became Prime Minister on 10 January 1957"

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On this day in 1957 Sir Anthony Eden resigned as prime minister of Britain due to ill health, after just one year and 279 days in the post. He was succeeded by Harold Macmillan.

Eden resigned on 9 January 1957, after his doctors warned him his life was at stake if he continued in office. Although the media expected Butler would get the nod, a survey of the Cabinet done for the Queen showed Macmillan was the nearly unanimous choice, and he became Prime Minister on 10 January 1957. Shortly afterwards Eden and his wife left England for a holiday in New Zealand.

Eden retained much of his personal popularity in Britain, was created Earl of Avon in 1961, and entered the House of Lords. In retirement Eden was particularly bitter that during the Suez Crisis Eisenhower had initially indicated British and French troops should be allowed to remain around Port Said, only for the US ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. to press for an immediate withdrawal at the UN, thereby rendering the operation a complete failure. Eden felt the Eisenhower administration's unexpected opposition was hypocritical in light of the 1953 Iranian coup d'état and the 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état.

http://www.facebook.com/BritannicaHistorica/p...

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Eden resigned on 9 January 1957, after his doctors warned him his life was at stake if he continued in office.[43] Although the media expected Butler would get the nod, a survey of the Cabinet done for the Queen showed Macmillan was the nearly unanimous choice, and he became Prime Minister on 10 January 1957.[44] Shortly afterwards Eden and his wife left England for a holiday in New Zealand. HP Pavilion DV4-1248TX Battery

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"Although the media expected Butler would get the nod, a survey of the Cabinet done for the Queen showed Macmillan was the nearly unanimous choice, and he became Prime Minister on 10 January 1957"

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This is your claim, by the way.

As I pointed out to you already, the little number at the end means WIKI took the source from another site.

Although the media expected Butler would get the nod, a survey of the Cabinet done for the Queen showed Macmillan was the nearly unanimous choice, and he became Prime Minister on 10 January 1957.[50]

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Nice try at trying to change the claim..
Now you can stop posting in this thread.

Take the rest of your day to say your goodbyes.
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Actually, you didn't.
And we started with you saying I never cite sources.
And I was correct up until you finally cited university links for politics degrees.
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And I showed you the little number at the end of the EXACT quote which I pointed out: was the source where the anonymous writer WIKI got.
Which does not remotely prove that you got the quote from the original source. You simply copy-pasted from Wikipedia which you have been denying this whole time.
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You do understand that WIKI isn't the original source for most of what it posts?
Not the point. The point is you played a double standard by using Wiki to back a claim when you simply ignore Wiki citations from other people.
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You do understand why they have those little numbers?
You pretend to be a college graduate but you don't know what a footnote is?
I am well aware as such. I am also aware that you have immense double standards when it comes to using online material.
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<quoted text>Bump.
Thank you for reminding everybody that you ran away from the argument itself.
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"Although the media expected Butler would get the nod, a survey of the Cabinet done for the Queen showed Macmillan was the nearly unanimous choice, and he became Prime Minister on 10 January 1957"
Both your Facebook -and- blog sources are paste jobs from - shock of shocks - Wikipedia.

How on earth does that mean that you got your quote from a non-Wiki source, when Wikipedia - the original source - predates both your links considering they were both posted last month?

Face it: you got the quote from Wikipedia and are trying to save face by showing links that quote from... Wikipedia.

You lied, Barefoot. Accept it like a big boy.
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Now you can stop posting in this thread.

Take the rest of your day to say your goodbyes.
Not happening. I know that you are desperate for me to stop whacking you with my mallet, but posting to links that in turn copy-paste from Wikipedia does not prove in the slightest that you got the quote from a non-Wiki source.

Are either the Facebook or blog links the original source? Nope, unless you are claiming that their January 2013 posts predate Wikipedia.

You lied, manchild. Stop pretending otherwise when we both know you copy-pasted from Wikipedia and played a double standard.

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