Candidate for governor Mark Schauer p...

Candidate for governor Mark Schauer proposes $9.25 minimum wage in Detroit visit

There are 18 comments on the MLive.com story from Nov 19, 2013, titled Candidate for governor Mark Schauer proposes $9.25 minimum wage in Detroit visit. In it, MLive.com reports that:

Mark Schauer, a Democratic candidate for governor, proposed raising Michigan's minimum wage to $9.25 an hour over three years in a press conference at Avalon International Breads on Monday.

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Obskeptic

Detroit, MI

#1 Nov 19, 2013
Nothing drives automation to replace the human element in the workforce then government deciding for us what the value of an employee is worth. Raise away Mark Shauer and the democrats, and watch unemployment grow along with dependence on government for the basics of life. The least among us just can't wait for the dollar menu to become the $5 dollar menu.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#2 Nov 19, 2013
I would rather depend on the government for the basics of life than some greedy rich guy. An employer will always devalue an employee to pay him less. The solution to raised prices is simply not to buy,problem solved.
Consumer

Tampa, FL

#3 Nov 19, 2013
snapcracklepop wrote:
The solution to raised prices is simply not to buy,problem solved.
Well, this is weird. I find myself agreeing with snapcracklepop on his final sentence.

When I find something is overpriced, I try to avoid purchasing it. I purchase less. I use an alternate product or do without.

Still, the government is not going to help anybody. They just take your money and recycle it very inefficiently. But I suspect snap expects gov to take somebody else's money and redistribute it to him.
Obskeptic

Sterling Heights, MI

#4 Nov 20, 2013
snapcracklepop wrote:
I would rather depend on the government for the basics of life than some greedy rich guy. An employer will always devalue an employee to pay him less. The solution to raised prices is simply not to buy,problem solved.
Have you ever given any thought to depending on yourself Mr. Crack, or are you apposed to honest hard work and individual responsibility?

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#5 Nov 20, 2013
Honest hard work and individual responsibility have little to do with today's artificial economy. Most people like to work hard and to do the right thing. The problem is when their hard work is devalued by some greedy pig who sits on his butt all day. Hard work don't work no more and people are starting to realize this. The system has to change. People can no longer depend on an employer to do the right thing.
Einstein

Farmington, MI

#6 Nov 20, 2013
If one has some skill that is in demand, you can demand a job.
If you have no skill, you can clean windshields along the highway exits.
Obskeptic

Farmington, MI

#7 Nov 21, 2013
snapcracklepop wrote:
Honest hard work and individual responsibility have little to do with today's artificial economy. Most people like to work hard and to do the right thing. The problem is when their hard work is devalued by some greedy pig who sits on his butt all day. Hard work don't work no more and people are starting to realize this. The system has to change. People can no longer depend on an employer to do the right thing.
Really? I find that statement incredulous as I have applied honesty and hard work my entire adult life with no college education behind me and I live very well Mr. Crack. This new Keynesian economy is a gift that the progressive movement has delivered the people, as we add another trillion in debt to the backs of our children in less then two months, so keep voting for democrats and moderate republicans so we can keep the death spiral going till we hit the ground.
Ron Paul Republican 2016

Fernley, NV

#8 Nov 21, 2013
Rick Snyder is the winner due to Mark Schauer's opposition to legalizing marijuana!
Ron Paul Republican 2016

Fernley, NV

#9 Nov 21, 2013
Rick Snyder is clearly the winner of the Michigan Gubernatorial Election In 2014 due to Mark Schauer's opposition to legalizing marijuana!

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#10 Nov 21, 2013
Einstein wrote:
If one has some skill that is in demand, you can demand a job.
If you have no skill, you can clean windshields along the highway exits.
Right so if there are 300 million people all with skills and only 5 jobs, tough shit for the 295 million, way to go dicky. You hear that outdated "just have skills" mantra floating around, only it's total BS. There are very few people who don't have skill. Any porch monkey can be trained to do 99.9999% of the jobs out there. Employers don't care about skill only about what they can get away with paying you. You don't demand anything, skill or no skill and skilled professions are going the way of the dinosaur, what are you going to do when your skill is no longer needed? That's the problem with the skills jitbag, they only think short term and to hell with everybody else.
Einstein

Farmington, MI

#11 Nov 21, 2013
snapcracklepop wrote:
<quoted text>
Right so if there are 300 million people all with skills and only 5 jobs, tough shit for the 295 million, way to go dicky. You hear that outdated "just have skills" mantra floating around, only it's total BS. There are very few people who don't have skill. Any porch monkey can be trained to do 99.9999% of the jobs out there. Employers don't care about skill only about what they can get away with paying you. You don't demand anything, skill or no skill and skilled professions are going the way of the dinosaur, what are you going to do when your skill is no longer needed? That's the problem with the skills jitbag, they only think short term and to hell with everybody else.
We have a discrepancy in terms here. Your concept of "skills" is vastly different from mine. When all you bring to the table are a knife and fork, those are not skills. When half of Detroiters are illiterate, those are not skilled people.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#12 Nov 23, 2013
Einstein wrote:
<quoted text>
When all you bring to the table are a knife and fork, those are not skills.
That doesn't even make any sense. All you need at a table is a knife and fork.The fabricated snakeoil $kills you are talking about were invented to keep the rich mouths fed and the hard working americans poor. All anyone really needs is a knife and fork. Only a brainwashed moron brings a computer to the dinner table.
Einstein wrote:
<quoted text>
When half of Detroiters are illiterate, those are not skilled people.
What does that even mean? illiterate vs non illiterate, skilled vs non skilled. People who went to indoctrinated brainwash college think they are literate, the truth is, they are just more indoctrinated. Just the way the Corporate slave master likes their sheeple, easy to manipulate.

Being brainwashed to promote a system that favors the rich is not skilled, it's dumb and a sell out. You can keep your over-priced worthless skills.

I'll take an illiterate Detroiter over some so called skilled schmuck any day of the week.
Obskeptic

Farmington, MI

#13 Nov 23, 2013
snapcracklepop wrote:
<quoted text>
Right so if there are 300 million people all with skills and only 5 jobs, tough shit for the 295 million, way to go dicky. You hear that outdated "just have skills" mantra floating around, only it's total BS. There are very few people who don't have skill. Any porch monkey can be trained to do 99.9999% of the jobs out there. Employers don't care about skill only about what they can get away with paying you. You don't demand anything, skill or no skill and skilled professions are going the way of the dinosaur, what are you going to do when your skill is no longer needed? That's the problem with the skills jitbag, they only think short term and to hell with everybody else.
Skilled professions are going the way of the dinosaurs? That is just an incredibly stupid thing to say Mr. Crack. Your saying that electricians, plumbers, HVAC installers and service techs, carpenters, roofers, painters, masons will someday be obsolete? Saying such a thing is the same thing as admitting you are an idiot Mr. Crack. As long as humanity exists so will those jobs. I am a non-union painting contractor in business for 23 years and my lowest paid guy makes $15.00 plus cash overtime if they want it. My highest paid guy makes $22.00 per hour plus cash overtime when he wants it. You may want to be more careful revealing your ignorance on these forums because people like myself make chowder out of fools like you. There will never, ever be an end for the need of tradesmen, and the higher your skill sets and harder you are willing to work, the better living you will make. If you saw my house and my cars and my boat you would swear I'm rich.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#14 Nov 23, 2013
snapcracklepop wrote:
<quoted text>
Right so if there are 300 million people all with skills and only 5 jobs, tough shit for the 295 million, way to go dicky. You hear that outdated "just have skills" mantra floating around, only it's total BS. There are very few people who don't have skill. Any porch monkey can be trained to do 99.9999% of the jobs out there. Employers don't care about skill only about what they can get away with paying you. You don't demand anything, skill or no skill and skilled professions are going the way of the dinosaur, what are you going to do when your skill is no longer needed? That's the problem with the skills jitbag, they only think short term and to hell with everybody else.
How MUCH did 0 sink into his MEcare website ???

Over 400 million wasn't it?

Wonder what would have 'happened'
IF

he had given EACH citizen a MILLION
[lil over 300 million citizens]

THEN ...

They could have BOUGHT
their own insurance ...

PLUS:
Flooded the economy with BIG $$$...

Too simple ... huh?
Professor

San Luis Obispo, CA

#15 Nov 23, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
How MUCH did 0 sink into his MEcare website ???
Over 400 million wasn't it?
Wonder what would have 'happened'
IF
he had given EACH citizen a MILLION
[lil over 300 million citizens]
THEN ...
They could have BOUGHT
their own insurance ...
PLUS:
Flooded the economy with BIG $$$...
Too simple ... huh?
Well, your math is indeed a bit fuzzy.
The USA has 313 million people. If each one received $2, that would be $626 million or about the cost of the ACA start.
Nevertheless, the cost of the Web site is way overpriced. Also, it looks like the lowest cost provider supplied their security certificate.
Obskeptic

Southfield, MI

#16 Nov 24, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
How MUCH did 0 sink into his MEcare website ???
Over 400 million wasn't it?
Wonder what would have 'happened'
IF
he had given EACH citizen a MILLION
[lil over 300 million citizens]
THEN ...
They could have BOUGHT
their own insurance ...
PLUS:
Flooded the economy with BIG $$$...
Too simple ... huh?
Thats just a bit embarrassing and I'm not trying to be to harsh here, as I know your a nice lady. Kentucky public schools?

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#17 Nov 24, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
Skilled professions are going the way of the dinosaurs? That is just an incredibly stupid thing to say Mr. Crack. Your saying that electricians, plumbers, HVAC installers and service techs, carpenters, roofers, painters, masons will someday be obsolete? Saying such a thing is the same thing as admitting you are an idiot Mr. Crack. As long as humanity exists so will those jobs. I am a non-union painting contractor in business for 23 years and my lowest paid guy makes $15.00 plus cash overtime if they want it. My highest paid guy makes $22.00 per hour plus cash overtime when he wants it. You may want to be more careful revealing your ignorance on these forums because people like myself make chowder out of fools like you. There will never, ever be an end for the need of tradesmen, and the higher your skill sets and harder you are willing to work, the better living you will make. If you saw my house and my cars and my boat you would swear I'm rich.
Like I said, jitbags like yourself are on their way out, bye bye loser. Your services are no longer required.
Obskeptic

Troy, MI

#18 Nov 25, 2013
snapcracklepop wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said, jitbags like yourself are on their way out, bye bye loser. Your services are no longer required.
LOL!!! I made 10G's in the last week applying those "skills" you say no one needs anymore fool, and I can't get thrown in jail for it. How about you?

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