Race in America: Why are blacks being...

Race in America: Why are blacks being seen as racists?

There are 9913 comments on the Washington Times story from Jul 8, 2013, titled Race in America: Why are blacks being seen as racists?. In it, Washington Times reports that:

WASHINGTON , July 8, 2013 - Last week's Rasmussen poll revealed some surprising and disturbing information about the way Americans think about race in America.

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Who

Grand Rapids, MI

#1488 Jul 23, 2013
Who Dat wrote:
If you stop and think about it, for centuries, decades and many years, black people consistently asked for "EQUALITY" rather than a free ride, fairness, rather than being "disenfranchised, not asking for free food, stop giving blacks longer jail time than other races, stop the job hiring discrimination and denial of well deserved promotions or advancement. More black would live a more productive life.
But if Caucasian people taunt black people like, look, I have all these "entitlements" and you blacks don't, how did it get so upside down??? Black people didn't cause it, we've inherited it.
And sometimes, the more things change, the more they stay the same!
FOOD FOR THOUGHT! <quoted text>
Here's some dessert for you then...

Blacks keep saying all they want is "equality" and that's fine, but the minute things don't go their way they call 'racism' and then expect us to lower the standards to make it "fair".

Blacks EXPECT jobs to be given to them, despite whether they're truly qualified or not, or else it's "racism".

If they're given the job they expect and end up getting fired because they couldn't do the job in the first place, it's "racism". Every black person I EVER worked with never showed up ready to do any real work, they always showed up in their most expensive clothes and shoes and stood around holding up walls, and if anyone tried to get them to do some work they were "racist" and/or "just trying to keep a brother down". If they weren't going to work, we had to let them go and we were called "racists".

That's "equality" to blacks - as long as they keep getting what they want, when they want, it isn't 'racism'.
wotnogwavy

Belfield, Australia

#1489 Jul 23, 2013
For those unaware of Australian history, a small sample:

Captain Hill, a British military officer at that time, wrote of the awful conditions in the convict fleets.

"The slave traffic is merciful compared with what I have seen in this fleet... in this, the more they can withhold from the unhappy wretches, the more provisions they have to dispose of at a foreign market, and the earlier in the voyage they die, the longer they can draw the deceased's allowance to themselves."
"A cargo of Irish convicts in 1797 and subjected them to brutal discipline of 300, 400 and 800 lashes. The worst death rate, however, was recorded on the Hillsborough which arrived in 1799.Convicts sent to Australia included some boys as young as eight years old, and there were many sent out who were aged between twelve and eighteen"

The London Quarterly Review published an article in June 1841 discussing the convict situation in Australia:

"Captain Maconochie condemns the whole of the penal institutions of the colonies, and says that the bad state of society may be traced directly to their pervading and demoralising influence; he complains that physical coersion [floggings etc.] is resorted to upon every little breach of regulation, in short, he says, in so many words, that the settlers who have convicts assigned to them are slave-holders, and the assignees slaves."

Ironically I'm from English and Irish stock, of which many convicts were. I'll given the English colonists this, they were equal opportunists in that they were capable of inhumane treatment of white and black people in Australia.
Nobody owns the brand of suffering or oppression.
Who Dat

Sugar Land, TX

#1491 Jul 23, 2013
True, there were white slaves. Slavery has always been and always shall be.
wotnogwavy wrote:
I'm a keen history buff of Australia and along the way researching I found this which may interest some.
The Forgotten White Slaves Of America
White servitude is hidden and they represent (AT LEAST) 1/2 to 2/3 of the first settlers of the America colony.
They were temporary chattel.You had:
- The Redemptioners ( specially the Germans who came with all their family but the family members were frequently sold to different masters);
- The Indentured Servants who sold themselves for a better life and a better place to live; they were lured with false promises ie “A land of milk and Honey is waiting for you in the new world”; and London was characterized by high poverty, famine and was “infested” with plagues…
- The kidnapped people of London, Bristol and Liverpool (Men, Women, Children); It was a Royal policy : POOR RELIEF;
- The poors and vagrants (Men, Women, Children) of the United Kingdom;
- The loose or lewd women (prostitutes);
- The convicts and criminals; who were highly preferred by planters because they were bound for 14 years at least; The child servants were praised for the same reason ( long period of bondage)…Maryland and Virginia were convicts’ states…
- The war prisoners ie Irish and Scottish ( Monmouth Rebels , Covenanters etc); the “Irish slave trade” is hidden into our history books but it’s a reality of the past …
- Apprentices , which was the best form of “bondage”(with the Redemptioners) because they could learn a job;
- Many indentured servants came from Europe (Italy and Greece) as well;
- Seamen impressed in ships ( they were bound to the master’s ship and could whipped in case of mutiny). They were often kidnapped in British Taverns; many case of desertions occurred in the Royal and Continental navies. As Richard Brandon Morris said they were the “last slaves” to be emancipated in 1915…Their hand could be cut off in a case of aggression against the ship’s captain…
It must be said that London ( Liverpool,Bristol) Merchants and British authorities ( Royalty; Mayor etc) were responsible for their temporary enslavement, and made huge profits in selling them to the colonies …
London ( Liverpool , Bristol) Merchants with British Authorities ( specially the Royalty) were also involved in the African slave trade…
When the supply of white servants happened to be insufficient in order to match the labor demand in the colonies, they created the Royal Company of Africa in order to import (kidnap) more Africans.
Who Dat

Sugar Land, TX

#1492 Jul 24, 2013
Dude, you out of touch. That goes for human in general. How many times men have said that about women?

I want you to go to this topic forum where I've explained this very topic. Don't go negative, keep an open mine.

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T2C5BN7F3ANGQ...

or look up...>> Zimmerman....clear case of self defense

Then look at my last post if you're still online now.
Page 176 or so there.
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's some dessert for you then...
Blacks keep saying all they want is "equality" and that's fine, but the minute things don't go their way they call 'racism' and then expect us to lower the standards to make it "fair".
Blacks EXPECT jobs to be given to them, despite whether they're truly qualified or not, or else it's "racism".
If they're given the job they expect and end up getting fired because they couldn't do the job in the first place, it's "racism". Every black person I EVER worked with never showed up ready to do any real work, they always showed up in their most expensive clothes and shoes and stood around holding up walls, and if anyone tried to get them to do some work they were "racist" and/or "just trying to keep a brother down". If they weren't going to work, we had to let them go and we were called "racists".
That's "equality" to blacks - as long as they keep getting what they want, when they want, it isn't 'racism'.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#1494 Jul 24, 2013
o-h-r-e-a-l-l-y wrote:
<quoted text>No he's not. He's Dead-on accurate. Negroes want to be compensated for their skin color,
....but not "judged" by it.
But it doesn't work that way, because to pay you all for all that work you never did, would be JUDGING you to be entitled to that compensation, based solely on your skin color.
Your One Foot Nailed to the Floor™ logic fails every time, because it's stupid.
Reparations would based on descent, not skin color, if applied. only people descended from black slaves from this country would be able to claim it. Not blacks from Africa or the Caribbean. I would not be able to claim it because my ancestors are not American black slaves. A white person descended from black American slaves, like Johnny Depp would have a more legal claim than I would.
By the way, I do not support reparations.
Who Dat

Sugar Land, TX

#1496 Jul 24, 2013
Dude you get around like a hooker on speed dial!
o-h-r-e-a-l-l-y wrote:
<quoted text>No he's not. He's Dead-on accurate. Negroes want to be compensated for their skin color,
....but not "judged" by it.
But it doesn't work that way, because to pay you all for all that work you never did, would be JUDGING you to be entitled to that compensation, based solely on your skin color.
Your One Foot Nailed to the Floor™ logic fails every time, because it's stupid.
Who Dat

Sugar Land, TX

#1497 Jul 24, 2013
See how selfish and contradicting these racist trolls are. You Bill O`Rieley o-h-r-e-a-l-l-y, you're replying on my post to another poster, yet you're upset someone replying on your post to me. You're such a "hypocrite"!

Plus, you're not interested in constructive dialogue, you're here to vent your racist anger. Don't you think your time would be better served saving your race from disappearing with "zero, nil' population growth?
o-h-r-e-a-l-l-y wrote:
<quoted text>So, you're a minority within a minority. By the way, I didn't elude to you supporting reparations. In fact, I wasn't even posting to you. Why are you telling me about yourself?
Who Dat

Sugar Land, TX

#1498 Jul 24, 2013
Tell me, did you lose your woman or boyfriend to a black man?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
o-h-r-e-a-l-l-y wrote:
<quoted text>No he's not. He's Dead-on accurate. Negroes want to be compensated for their skin color,
....but not "judged" by it.
But it doesn't work that way, because to pay you all for all that work you never did, would be JUDGING you to be entitled to that compensation, based solely on your skin color.
Your One Foot Nailed to the Floor™ logic fails every time, because it's stupid.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1500 Jul 24, 2013
Who Dat wrote:
<quoted text>If you stop and think about it, for centuries, decades and many years, black people consistently asked for "EQUALITY" rather than a free ride, fairness, rather than being "disenfranchised, not asking for free food, stop giving blacks longer jail time than other races, stop the job hiring discrimination and denial of well deserved promotions or advancement. More black would live a more productive life.

But if Caucasian people taunt black people like, look, I have all these "entitlements" and you blacks don't, how did it get so upside down??? Black people didn't cause it, we've inherited it.

And sometimes, the more things change, the more they stay the same!

FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
They did, I agree. However, it is 2013, and now, they want the freebies. They want revenge. They want Affirmative Action. They will never have equality as long as that is their mindset. If equality is truly what they want, they must let go of revenge to get it.

Longer jail time has to do with the crime committed, and the number of times arrested, not the race of the person which committed it.

Inherited, my ass! Stop making excuses, and start making an effort. No one is taunting blacks with entitlements. Where do you come up with this stuff?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1501 Jul 24, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>Here's some dessert for you then...

Blacks keep saying all they want is "equality" and that's fine, but the minute things don't go their way they call 'racism' and then expect us to lower the standards to make it "fair".

Blacks EXPECT jobs to be given to them, despite whether they're truly qualified or not, or else it's "racism".

If they're given the job they expect and end up getting fired because they couldn't do the job in the first place, it's "racism". Every black person I EVER worked with never showed up ready to do any real work, they always showed up in their most expensive clothes and shoes and stood around holding up walls, and if anyone tried to get them to do some work they were "racist" and/or "just trying to keep a brother down". If they weren't going to work, we had to let them go and we were called "racists".

That's "equality" to blacks - as long as they keep getting what they want, when they want, it isn't 'racism'.
Bingo!
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1504 Jul 24, 2013
McAlister73 wrote:
<quoted text>
Mexicans are bringing it over, shoit for brains. The gov't is not trying to ship it to your neighborhoods. Let's be clear. This is part of your belief that Whites fear your potential that you will rise and make something of yourselves. so you claim that they are sending in drugs to keep you down. Lol! But you are wrong, they do not fear your so call potential. There is scant evidence of it. The only reason drugs come to your neighborhood is for monetary profit.! I'm sorry but that's the truth.
And the Panthers back in the 60's advocated violence and were involved in suspicious activities, of course the FBI got involved!
This country is one of the most diverse in the world. People from all over have come to this country poor, abused, uneducated, indentured, as slaves, as orphans, etc. Many people from many races, coming from the most dire of circumstances have made a better life here. And yet, blacks as a whole are still complaining about their circumstances centuries later. There are many white families who's ancestors have endured the same kind of misery and yet there is little discussion of it. Women have been enslaved far longer than a black man and yet as a whole, you will not see us ranting on and giving excuses for poor performance because of something that happened decades/centuries before. Women were bought and sold just like slaves....many were beaten, raped and murdered by their husbands. They had no choices in life and their slavery lasted longer than any race. While there are a small percentage who wail like banshis, most women have grown stronger and empowered by opportunities that once did not exist. Hatred and complaints serve no purpose but only hold a person back. You can't change the past but only learn from it. Making good choices helps pave the way for a fulfilling future.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#1506 Jul 24, 2013
fanti1977 wrote:
<quoted text>NO I don't need Ginkgo but you probably need some VIAGRA impotence can make white men like you find substitutes to make up for that "lost feeling". That is why you enter into Black forums and battle with blacks 24/7, your sex drive wilted and blew away with the wind! And now we all of us blacks here at Topix are constantly being irritated and annoyed by you. It's not our fault you have "failed" go to the doctor and get "those pills" we'll know the day your VIAGRA PRESCRIPTION HAS FINALLY KICKED IN BECAUSE YOUR CRAZY ASS WILL DISAPPEAR FROM THIS FORUM!
Lmao! How obvious can you be? When a liberal starts slinging unfounded insults because he got caught altering posts, it's obvious he has nothing of substance to back his position or claim.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#1507 Jul 24, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
Not working is obviously not the cause of poverty. I know that most millionaires and billionaires do nothing but sit around on their rich and fat assses all day and half the night. That does not make them poor. Why should it make us poor?
Clearly, you don't know much because you have to work to get the millions. There may be a small handful who have inherited their fortunes but even most of them are working even if it is in the capacity of a volunteer. Not working IS the cause of poverty but you are obviously too stupid to understand this. The mindset that you think someone owes you is the reason for your failure.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1508 Jul 24, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text> This country is one of the most diverse in the world. People from all over have come to this country poor, abused, uneducated, indentured, as slaves, as orphans, etc. Many people from many races, coming from the most dire of circumstances have made a better life here. And yet, blacks as a whole are still complaining about their circumstances centuries later. There are many white families who's ancestors have endured the same kind of misery and yet there is little discussion of it. Women have been enslaved far longer than a black man and yet as a whole, you will not see us ranting on and giving excuses for poor performance because of something that happened decades/centuries before. Women were bought and sold just like slaves....many were beaten, raped and murdered by their husbands. They had no choices in life and their slavery lasted longer than any race. While there are a small percentage who wail like banshis, most women have grown stronger and empowered by opportunities that once did not exist. Hatred and complaints serve no purpose but only hold a person back. You can't change the past but only learn from it. Making good choices helps pave the way for a fulfilling future.
Yeah they have resigned themselves to a culture of dependence and whinning.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#1509 Jul 24, 2013
at one time in history maybe they wanted to be equal, but then they tasted the sweet nectar of affirmative action, EBT, Section 8, using the race card, crack and big rims, and decided they would prefer to be more than equal....honky payback is not about being equal, it's about taking over.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#1510 Jul 24, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Lmao! How obvious can you be? When a liberal starts slinging unfounded insults because he got caught altering posts, it's obvious he has nothing of substance to back his position or claim.
Harvey and the professor were famous for changing others posts, and now he has morphed into fingiswold and Chisholm...let's see how long it takes him to revert back to his old ways and starts changing posts again.
Justa Thawght

Washington, DC

#1511 Jul 24, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
So give some statistics to refute the FACTS I have posted. I'll require government agency statistics, not mainstream media propaganda.
NOT INTERESTED IN STATISTICS serving only to validate your blind ambition. They are superficial and does nothing to explain the why! I'm interested in the why! Can you explain to me the WHY? Is it because you believe blacks are inferior?? How has the American socio-economic constructs effected these so called stats?? Do you think the stats look better when you consider blacks started at the "bottom" of this socio-economic construct and is working our way up?? Not whining, just stating what we all know to be true and factual! How about the legal system; do you think it has been fair throughout the history of this country? Do you know if there have been laws on the books for the sole purpose of impeding black progress?? What do you really know about your country and it's history?? I'm not referring to the nice, white-patronizing history found in academia. But this nations FULL history from other perspectives. The glory and the shame!
Justa Thawght

Washington, DC

#1513 Jul 24, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's some dessert for you then...
Blacks keep saying all they want is "equality" and that's fine, but the minute things don't go their way they call 'racism' and then expect us to lower the standards to make it "fair".
Blacks EXPECT jobs to be given to them, despite whether they're truly qualified or not, or else it's "racism".
If they're given the job they expect and end up getting fired because they couldn't do the job in the first place, it's "racism". Every black person I EVER worked with never showed up ready to do any real work, they always showed up in their most expensive clothes and shoes and stood around holding up walls, and if anyone tried to get them to do some work they were "racist" and/or "just trying to keep a brother down". If they weren't going to work, we had to let them go and we were called "racists".
That's "equality" to blacks - as long as they keep getting what they want, when they want, it isn't 'racism'.
Who, you're from Wyoming! How many black folks can you possibly know?? You are so far off with your broad paint brush! What you just posted IS racist at it's most definitive!

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#1514 Jul 24, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Blacks control whether there will be equality or not. As long as they want revenge, there will not be equality. Your choice.
You lie and your skull is thick. We control nothing, white man. YOU created the race classification and even further divide the line by claiming this bullshit neanderthal theory, claiming this extinct beast made you and everyone non-black more intelligent. This means that you think you're something other than human, even while you ware our form. This means you idiots have insured the lie of multiple races, wheny ou are infact albinos and thus mutants and riddled with defects. You TRY to hide these facts, liars. You people lie so much your ENTIRE should lose the ability to speak.

This is the #1 problem and wall between any brotherhood OR equality. You inherently racist creatures are NOT superior NOR are you more intelligent! Keep up this lie and see what happens idiots. It definitely won't be Kumbayah.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#1515 Jul 24, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
"Triceroy" is a perfect example of somebody I do not much like. But I cannot tell if he is black or white. I can tell however that he is a male, but not yet a man.
You're an idio+.

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