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Rick Santorum Wants to Fight 'The Dangers Of Contraception'

There are 114 comments on the swampland.time.com story from Feb 15, 2012, titled Rick Santorum Wants to Fight 'The Dangers Of Contraception'. In it, swampland.time.com reports that:

"the dangers of contraception in this country, the whole sexual libertine idea"

Candidates often say things when polling in the single digits that come back to haunt them when they start leading the polls.

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Questioner

Llano, TX

#41 Feb 15, 2012
anneutral wrote:
you can't deny women their basic rights and pretend it's about your "religious freedom". If you don't like birth control, don't use it. Religious freedom doesn't mean you can force others to live by your beliefs.
well said anneutral...
Rick would tell you freedom is doing what the religion says ...(well actually what the priesthood says). Ron Paul thinks your freedom ends when it interferes with another's freedom. I like Paul's idea, I don't like preachers. Like you say, do what you want, but don't force me to be like you.
Mitt s Baptized Dead Jew

Philadelphia, PA

#42 Feb 15, 2012
anneutral wrote:
you can't deny women their basic rights and pretend it's about your "religious freedom". If you don't like birth control, don't use it. Religious freedom doesn't mean you can force others to live by your beliefs.
But actually churches can do that for their employees under the Obama proposal and under the long existing correlates in 28 states.

It's in public charities and public hospitals (even if run by the RCC, with government monies involved in many ways,) that can't do that.
Mitt s Baptized Dead Jew

Philadelphia, PA

#43 Feb 15, 2012
OneRyder wrote:
<quoted text>
My bad, I meant 1980
Sanscrotum and his wife could have met at pre nursery school.

Since "fetuses are people" they might have met while they were both in their respective wombs....
Mitt s Baptized Dead Jew

Philadelphia, PA

#44 Feb 15, 2012
Dismayed wrote:
And birth control pills have not been covered in any that I'm aware of. I always thought that was stupid when it would cost a lot less than paying for more children being born, c-sections, etc.-- not to mention they covered viagra.
But birth control has been covered in many policies, including in ones at non profit charities and hospitals via agreements in 28 states upon which the Obama proposal is based.

The states' version likewise allows the church employee policies to have a waiver on the birth control coverage...just like Obama's does.
Mitt s Baptized Dead Jew

Philadelphia, PA

#45 Feb 15, 2012
Questioner wrote:
<quoted text>
Ron Paul thinks your freedom ends when it interferes with another's freedom. I like Paul's idea....
Ron Paul's idea would be to allow a business to have segregated lunch counters. Or to bar certain groups of customers altogether.

Meanwhile, Paul's idea is that women seeking abortions should be _forced_ to have a sonogram prior, even over the objections of the woman's personal physician.

The guy has some funny ideas about "freedom."
Anonymous

Philadelphia, PA

#46 Feb 15, 2012
Start with abortion, Rick.

Or are you afraid of a "Women's Right?"

Good Luck!
Anonymous

Philadelphia, PA

#47 Feb 15, 2012
O'Yeah, by the way, you would also have to get by Big Bad Pharma, Rutgers, and Amerithrax, Rick.

Good Luck!
Rambeaux

West Chester, PA

#48 Feb 15, 2012
Mitt s Baptized Dead Jew wrote:
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Sanscrotum and his wife could have met at pre nursery school.
Since "fetuses are people" they might have met while they were both in their respective wombs....
I use a condom. Does my spunk represent human life? And God forbid I should ever masturbate.
ack ack

Hollywood, FL

#49 Feb 16, 2012
Too bad his parents didn't use some form of contraception.
Nobody Special

New York, NY

#51 Feb 16, 2012
anneutral wrote:
you can't deny women their basic rights and pretend it's about your "religious freedom". If you don't like birth control, don't use it. Religious freedom doesn't mean you can force others to live by your beliefs.
Your comment here has now been attributed to Obama.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php...

Like he'd ever take an actual stand on anything.

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#52 Feb 16, 2012
Nobody Special wrote:
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Your comment here has now been attributed to Obama.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php...
Like he'd ever take an actual stand on anything.
(that's where I got it, because although I don't always agree with his stance, on this he is 100% correct)

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#53 Feb 16, 2012
Mitt s Baptized Dead Jew wrote:
<quoted text>
Ron Paul's idea would be to allow a business to have segregated lunch counters. Or to bar certain groups of customers altogether.
Meanwhile, Paul's idea is that women seeking abortions should be _forced_ to have a sonogram prior, even over the objections of the woman's personal physician.
The guy has some funny ideas about "freedom."
they just passed a law in Virginia that not only bans some kinds of contraception, but also requires that women seeking an abortion first must receive a vaginal ultrasound.
so they are requiring a woman seeking an abortion to be vaginally penetrated against her will.
.
my guess is that people will either start seeking out-of-state OBGYN's for thier birth control needs and abortions......, or a "black market" for this sort of thing will pop-up in Virginia.
.
(that's what you get when you give radical Christian republicans complete control over your states government)

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#54 Feb 16, 2012
Questioner wrote:
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well said anneutral...
Rick would tell you freedom is doing what the religion says ...(well actually what the priesthood says). Ron Paul thinks your freedom ends when it interferes with another's freedom. I like Paul's idea, I don't like preachers. Like you say, do what you want, but don't force me to be like you.
I like some of Paul's policies, but as far as women's health, he's living in the dark ages.
newt

Las Vegas, NV

#55 Feb 16, 2012
rick ftw!
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#57 Feb 16, 2012
The concept of health INSURANCE being some kind of 'god given' right is RIDICULOUS.

It should be up to ALL EMPLOYERS to decide for themselves what kind of benefits they choose to provide their employees.

MINIMUM WAGE and safe working conditions are already DICTATED by the government.

The government is OVERSTEPPING its authority in MANDATING that an employer or individual purchase health INSURANCE.

The problem isn't about birth control or abortions or blood transfusions or religious beliefs. The problem is Obamacare and Obamacare needs to be ABOLISHED!!
Sgt Common Sense

United States

#58 Feb 16, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
If Rich Sanitorium wants to be president, then worry about the economy, worry about jobs, worry about war, worry about things presidents SHOULD worry about. Stay the HELL out of American's bedrooms!!.
Remember, the Republicans want a smaller government, small enough to fit in your bedroom.

Since: Dec 07

Clermont, Florida

#59 Feb 16, 2012
anneutral wrote:
<quoted text>
they just passed a law in Virginia that not only bans some kinds of contraception, but also requires that women seeking an abortion first must receive a vaginal ultrasound.
so they are requiring a woman seeking an abortion to be vaginally penetrated against her will.
.
my guess is that people will either start seeking out-of-state OBGYN's for thier birth control needs and abortions......, or a "black market" for this sort of thing will pop-up in Virginia.
.
(that's what you get when you give radical Christian republicans complete control over your states government)
Florida also requires a sonogram before an abortion (some exceptions), and also requires the woman to pay for the sonogram. I don't know if it's the intravaginal type or not, but at those early stages I doubt one outside the vagina would be of use.

Oklahoma also has a sonogram law.
Justin

United States

#60 Feb 16, 2012
anneutral wrote:
you can't deny women their basic rights and pretend it's about your "religious freedom". If you don't like birth control, don't use it. Religious freedom doesn't mean you can force others to live by your beliefs.
Birth control, just like beer and internet access, is not a "basic right". In any event, no one is forcing women (or men) not to use birth control. Anyone who wants to can walk into a drug store and pick up a box of condoms. That's always been the case.
I'm not sure at what point in history birth control became a "right" that must be provided by all employers the same as safety equipment or overtime pay. However, it must have started in damn near recent past.
fedupwiththemess

Ashburn, VA

#61 Feb 16, 2012
then men need to cut down on the amount of sex they like to have. WITHHOLD SEX FROM MEN WOMEN!!!!

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#62 Feb 16, 2012
Justin wrote:
<quoted text>
Birth control, just like beer and internet access, is not a "basic right". In any event, no one is forcing women (or men) not to use birth control. Anyone who wants to can walk into a drug store and pick up a box of condoms. That's always been the case.
I'm not sure at what point in history birth control became a "right" that must be provided by all employers the same as safety equipment or overtime pay. However, it must have started in damn near recent past.
(I believe it was when it was discovered that although insurance companies were not covering birth control, they WERE covering Viagra. Ironic huh? The thought was that if viagra was being paid for by employers and insurance companies, then BC should be too)

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