Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 61363 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18926 Jan 13, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
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400,000 gay males who engaged in anal sex are dead.
Are you asking for a listing of all the names?
And MILLIONS of straight women who engaged in vaginal sex with a man are dead.

What's your point?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18927 Jan 13, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
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Honestly, Sheeple, I suppose the first time someone mimed a comment the way you do above, it was thought clever. But that had to be 30 years ago. In fact, why the need for these stupid pet tricks you keep rolling out? Why can't you just make your point with a simple argument?
And, no -- please put the Coke bottle away.
No one wants to see the tricks you do with that, trust me.
My argument was as simple as yours.

Since MILLIONS of heterosexuals have died from male-to-female vaginal sex, then there must be something wrong with it.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18928 Jan 13, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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It's a bogus non-argument that could be just as easily used against SSM. We are talking about consenting adults. Please.
The polygamists AREN'T talking about consenting adults, which is the reason it will remain illegal.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18929 Jan 13, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Sure they are.
Obviously you have no understanding whatsoever of the concept of similarly situated.

Siblings are closely related; an unrelated couple isn't.

That's NOT similarly situated.

You really ARE clueless.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18930 Jan 13, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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It is very logical that equality for same sex marriage is good for equality for polygamy.
Then polygamy should be legal in Massachusetts by now.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18931 Jan 13, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
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You've had 30 years to show us the world becomes a better place when homosexuality is allowed to flourish, and what do you have to show for it, fella, besides your pink spankies and 78% HIV rate?
We have gay & lesbian citizens being treated as equal to all other citizens in 18 states.

Soon we'll have all 50 states.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18932 Jan 13, 2014
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Perhaps.....perhaps not.
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Oh Sheepie......of course they do. Didn't the recent federal ruling on polygamy give you any clue......it's ohhhhhhhh......Kay....."m arriage equality" isn't just for same sex couples anymore!
Remember, if conjugality, as the sole foundation of marriage law is expendable, as several states have demonstrated, so is monogamy. What's good for the gay goose, is good for the poly gander.
Nope, the court merely ruled (correctly I might add) that cohabitation among consenting adults is legal regardless of their marital status.

It had nothing to do with polygamy whatsoever.

No states have rejected conjugality as the foundation of marriage; which is why polygamy remains illegal in all 50 states.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18933 Jan 13, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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That's not a valid argument, it's a desperate dodge, please, we are talking about consenting adults. Is that your only argument against polygamy? You don't like it's sensationalized history?
Why shouldn't three adult gay men be allowed to marry in happy happy tolerant and diverse sheeple land?
omeone might marry a child why do you scream bloody murder if someone uses it against SSM?
Because marriage is a contract between two people.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18934 Jan 13, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Please cite the legal precedent that says polygamy should be illegal because someone might marry a child.
I never said there was any legal precedent.

I simply said that the polygamists long history of forced child marriages is why polygamy will remain illegal.

You can't force the nation to accept that which it doesn't want to accept.

Gays & lesbians learned that the hard way. We had to first spend decades convincing the rest of Americans we were no different than them and posed no harm to children.

Polygamists haven't even started down that road yet. Americans still view them as a freak show curiosity as seen in shows like "The Sister Wives".

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18935 Jan 13, 2014
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Exactly.....husband and wife, are similarly situated to husband and wife. Thus Kody Brown and Mrs Brown are similarly situated to any other opposite sex married couple. As are Kody Brown and Mrs. Brown, and Kody Brown and Mrs, Brown, and Kody and Mrs. Brown.
Two men, or two women, are similarly situated to two other men, or two other women.
The courts disagree with your assessment.

No big surprise there.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18937 Jan 13, 2014
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Of course there are, in fact they even have their own reality show. They're the nice plural marriage family down the street, right next door to the nice gay couple.
Nope, none of the polygamist "families" have marriage licenses.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18940 Jan 13, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Why shouldn't three consenting adult gay men be allowed to marry? Sheeple says because someone might force a child to marry them.
Of course we could then ban SSM and all marriages for the same reason. Sheeple clearly hasn't thought this through.
It's all in the degree of danger, or likelihood of harm- however you want to see it.

Marriage is a fundamental right. In order to restrict that right, a state must demonstrate a compelling state interest.

There is no history of gay men marrying children.
There IS a LOOOONG history of polygamists forcing children into their religious "marriages".
Incest carries the same LOOOONG history of familial child abuse.

So it's reasonable for the state to restrict the right to marry for the high risk groups- i.e. polygamists & incest- while allowing marriage for all other groups.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18942 Jan 13, 2014
Brokeback Mtn wrote:
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How does one get the virus? Through male (mail?) order?
Millions of women got the virus through male-to-female vaginal sex.

Uh-oh......

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#18943 Jan 13, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The polygamists AREN'T talking about consenting adults, which is the reason it will remain illegal.
Just ask the "Sister Wives", they'll set u straight.:)

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18944 Jan 13, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
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Each case of the 400,000 deaths from HIV-AIDS I mentioned, male-to-male anal sex was the vector.
Had the people not engaged in anal sex they'd believe today.
Now what the hell are you talking about?
Tell me, I'd love to hear it.
And the MILLIONS of heterosexual deaths from HIV-AIDS, the vector was male-to-female vaginal sex.

Had the people not engaged in vaginal sex they'd be alive today.

What's your point?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#18945 Jan 13, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Since MILLIONS of heterosexuals have .... male-to-female vaginal sex, then there must be something wrong with it.
Hmmmmm.....it did produce you.:)

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18946 Jan 13, 2014
Brokeback Mtn wrote:
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Aids was originally spread in the USA from the homosexual population to the heterosexual population in three ways.
And AIDS was originally spread in Africa from the heterosexual population to the bisexual population to the homosexual population.

Everyone who has unprotected sex is at risk of contracting HIV.

What's your point?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18947 Jan 13, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Polygamy is some good people's choice of marriage. It is not a fish!
Nor is it a trick against anyone else's marriage. You're paranoid and your hypocrisy is showing. Why are you a hypocrite?
"Good people" don't have a LOOOONG history of forcing girls into adult sexual relationships against their will like polygamists do.

“"The 14th Amendment Works"”

Since: Jul 13

Livermore California

#18948 Jan 13, 2014
Brokeback Mtn wrote:
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"Heterosexuals got AIDS in the beginning without contact with homosexuals."
Show use a fat that proves that. Homosexuals were the first know source of AIDS.
And here you go Oh great ignorant one ! First of all,AID's has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of the thread and secondly the vast majority of AID's cases "World" wide are heterosexual ! Not to mention that the virus has been around now for approx. a hundred years (documented cases)! The first cases turned up in Africa where hunters contracted the virus through consuming contaminated monkey meat ! So before you spout off on something you're so ignorant about perhaps you should at least attempt to educate yourself on the subject if that's at all possible with a village idiot like yourself !
And here you go.........

The history of AID's

http://www.thebody.com/content/whatis/art4885...

Also.....The origin of AID's

http://www.wisegeek.com/how-did-the-aids-epid...

If you reguire more info,don't hesitate to ask,glad I could help !

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18949 Jan 13, 2014
Brokeback Mtn wrote:
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AIDS (and other STDs) are spread mostly through immoral sexual contact and dirty needles. Whether heterosexual or homosexual.
I refused to kiss a girl one time because she had and open cold sore on her lip. Do you know the technical term for a cold sore?
So now consensual vaginal intercourse between a married man & woman is "immoral sexual contact"?

Wow, you anti-gays get more bizarre by the minute.

You should introduce THAT little tidbit into court the next time marriage for same-sex couples comes before a judge!!

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