Gay marriage

Full story: Los Angeles Times

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.
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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Once same-sex couples can marry nationwide, then divorce won't be any more of an issue for them as it is for opposite-sex couples.
Not quite. Courts often, depending on the state favor the wife/mother over the husband/father in custody matters, so how will that apply to a male same sex couple, when there is no wife/mother, or a female SSC, when there is two?
Some marriages end in divorce; no one ever claimed otherwise.
You dodging the question. Why are the first lesbian marriage in each new SSM state, seem to be ending in divorce, starting with the Goodridges?
Actually marriage equality will end with same-sex couples, because no other group or segment is similarly situated to an otherwise unrelated adult couple which marriage laws apply to.
Oh sure Sheepie....you keep think that. Please explain why monogamy is so sacred, if conjugality, isn't?
I will agree that polygamist groups may one day be able to legally marry, but it won't be done under "marriage equality". Maybe freedom of religion or freedom of association, but not certainly not marriage equality.
Why not? If you can redefine "equality" in such a way as to demand the state NOT treat you equally as it would any other man as it relates to marriage, certainly polygamists can also redfine "equality" for their purposes.
Either way, I doubt either of us will have to deal with it on anything more than an academic level.
Movement often travel beyond it's intended objectives, "marriage equality" will bear that out.
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His attack on gays saying there life is not logical and that they are sinning somehow.
His belief is hate and bigotry. Like all religious crap.
You think men sticking their d!cks up each other's asses is logical? Where's the logic?

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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The two core elements, male female, have existed in the definition of marriage since the birth of the Republic, on English common law from where our concept of marriage originated, and in Western Civilization. It is still, and was understood to be a male female union. All the changes occurred to that union,
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Legally, yes, in a few states. Beyond that, marriage is still virtually understood, culturally, socially, and/or religiously, as a union of husband and wife. Simply because a few states have legalized SSM, not all legal aspects apply, during the marriage, nor exiting it.
Blah, blah, blah......

NEW MEXICO just became the 17th state where same-sex couples can exercise their right to marry!!!!!!!!!!
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You think men sticking their d!cks up each other's asses is logical? Where's the logic?
It is there life. And on top of that what they do is nothing a man and women don't do..

Anyway since we live in the USA FREEDOM FOR ALL...Yes gay people also..

I know that makes you Nazi fascist bigots mad..But tough.

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That was from Wikipedia. So ignore it, if you must, wouldn't want you to have to admit the flaws in you position.
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Which is probably why you anti conjugality people have lost so many states at the ballot box.
Actually we won all the recent votes at the ballot box- including the LAST FOUR VOTES!!

While the majority of those anti-gay votes happened almost a decade ago!!!

All the more indication society is changing the definition of marriage once again!!!!

CONGRATS NEW MEXICO on becoming the 17th state to recognize the right of same-sex couples to marry!!!!
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How come haters are also so stupid??

Nice how educated people are not bigoted..

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We're losing in court because you people should have a chance to succeed in life like everybody else. The problem, however, is that you can't, and that's because homosexuality is a mental disorder.
You were not designed to have male-to-male anal sex. This is why when you do it you get sick and die.
Except for the simple fact that the overwhelming majority of gays & lesbians are as successful as any other Americans.

And the overwhelming majority of us aren't sick nor dying either.

Your continued bigotry can't stop us from winning in court after court and state after state.

Like we just did today in New Mexico!!!!!!

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Over 1/3rd of all states now allow same-sex couples to exercise their constitutional right to marry!!!!

Up next- Oregon in 2014!!!!

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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It was always husband and wife, at least until 2004. So why is monogamy so sacred, if conjugality isn't?
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Which can be changed.
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Are based on the male female union, that union which can produce the next generation, even you Sheepie.
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Now that's funny, considering you advocate for the rejection of monogamous conjugality as the sole legal use standing of marriage. So dropping conjugality, won't fundamentally change how our society functions, but dropping monogamy will?!!!!
That's too funny....Gee Eye
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Interracial couples, still conjugal.
First cousin couples, still conjugal.
Same sex couples, NOT conjugal.
Legal principles not the same, but thanks for trying
And how did those legal principles work for you anti-gays in New Mexico?

Not surprising at all you anti-gays lost AGAIN!!!!

Up next- Oregon in 2014!!!!

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Not quite. Courts often, depending on the state favor the wife/mother over the husband/father in custody matters, so how will that apply to a male same sex couple, when there is no wife/mother, or a female SSC, when there is two?
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You dodging the question. Why are the first lesbian marriage in each new SSM state, seem to be ending in divorce, starting with the Goodridges?
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Oh sure Sheepie....you keep think that. Please explain why monogamy is so sacred, if conjugality, isn't?
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Why not? If you can redefine "equality" in such a way as to demand the state NOT treat you equally as it would any other man as it relates to marriage, certainly polygamists can also redfine "equality" for their purposes.
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Movement often travel beyond it's intended objectives, "marriage equality" will bear that out.
Blah, blah, blah,

And you anti-gays LOST AGAIN, using those SAME MORONIC ARGUMENTS!!!!

I have complete faith you anti-gays will never figure out how absolutely ineffective your arguments are and we'll keep winning in court after court and state after state.

Up next- Oregon in 2014!!!!

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And the anti-gays lost AGAIN using the same lame procreation arguments!!!!

Keep up the good work!!!!

1/3rd of all states, with more to come!!!!

Up next- Oregon in 2014!!!
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I posted a fact...Prove me wrong.

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And it was a UNANIMOUS decision from the New Mexico Supreme Court!!!

".....same-sex couples seeking to marry are SIMILARLY SITUATED to opposite-sex couples seeking to marry....."

"..... and are therefore entitled to equal protection of the law......"

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What as that again?

Oh yeah, "..... same-sex couples seeking to marry are SIMILARLY SITUATED to opposite-sex couples seeking to marry..."

Now where did I hear that before??...

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Blah, blah, blah......
NEW MEXICO just became the 17th state where same-sex couples can exercise their right to marry!!!!!!!!!!
Yaaaaaay.....now who will be the first lesbian couple to divorce in that state? Stay tuned.

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Except for the simple fact that the overwhelming majority of gays & lesbians are as successful as any other Americans.
And the overwhelming majority of us aren't sick nor dying either.
Your continued bigotry can't stop us from winning in court after court and state after state.
Like we just did today in New Mexico!!!!!!
This is gay liberation circa 1970 all over again.

That victory almost wiped you out.
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It is there life. And on top of that what they do is nothing a man and women don't do..
Anyway since we live in the USA FREEDOM FOR ALL...Yes gay people also..
I know that makes you Nazi fascist bigots mad..But tough.
It is THEIR life.

Why are you queers all illiterate?

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Yaaaaaay.....now who will be the first lesbian couple to divorce in that state? Stay tuned.
Ooooh, just can't stand the fact you anti-gays LOST AGAIN!!!!!!

Grand slam with an extra base runner!!!!

Btw, who was the first opposite-sex couple to divorce in New Mexico? Who knows, who cares!

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UNAMINOUS 5-0 ruling!!!!

Similarly situated....
Equal protection....
Fundamental right to marry.....
Procreation irrelevant....
History/tradition irrelevant....

Congrats all New Mexicans who can now exercise their right to marry!!!
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This is gay liberation circa 1970 all over again.
That victory almost wiped you out.
Nothing compared to Dark Ages, when repression ruled...Walk off a cliff Lemming and STFU.

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Ooooh, just can't stand the fact you anti-gays LOST AGAIN!!!!!!
Grand slam with an extra base runner!!!!
I find it ironic that with all the enthusiasm for "gay" marriage, it's actually lesbian marriage, and lesbians don't want to stay together. Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.
Btw, who was the first opposite-sex couple to divorce in New Mexico? Who knows, who cares!
Probably initiated by the wife! Maybe that's why lesbians don't stay married, two wives!

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