Gay marriage

Full story: Los Angeles Times

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.
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The jury is in, fella. After 30 years of safe-sex education you fellows are still disproportionately catching HIV. This can mean only one thing: there's no safe way to have male-to-male anal sex.
And after 30 years heteros are still disproportionately catching HIV in Africa. This can mean only one thing: there's no safe way to have male-to-female vaginal sex.

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So now you admit it. Why not answer the question?
Why does a butch dress and act like a man to attract another lesbian??
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Scientists would say it is because of mating behavior.
However, lets take your assertion;
Why is a lesbian trying to act like a man?
Why is a lesbian interested in another lesbian who is almost a man?
She's not; she's acting like a lesbian.
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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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And after 30 years heteros are still disproportionately catching HIV in Africa.
Nothing like the gays here though, and we offer free public educations, including sex education here.

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garylloyd wrote:
Here's the deal:
You're an anti-gay ignorant moron.

That's the deal.

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garylloyd wrote:
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Stop obfuscating.
Gay males are 78% of all new HIV cases in males. You don't want to talk about that because it's an indictment against male-to-male anal sex.
You've had 30 years to work-out a way of having your anal sex safely and have nothing to show for it -- except a 12% increase in the HIV rate among gay males.
The jury is in: male-to-male sex is morbidly unhealthy and there's no way of doing it safely.
The overall conclusion is just as plan: homosexuality kills.
And yet millions of gay people manage to have sex without contracting HIV.

And yet millions of straight people contract HIV from having male-to-female sex.

If your sexual partner doesn't have HIV, you're not going to contract the virus no matter how you have sex.

If your sexual partner has HIV, you're likely to contract the virus if you have unprotected anal or vaginal sex.

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They already have equal protection of the law. Wow, you're incorrigible.
Now, your 'idiotic ramblings' wouldn't be missed unless someone reads them just for laughs, like I do.
Except we don't have equal protection of the law in states which refuse to recognize our legal marriages.

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garylloyd wrote:
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Homosexuals have the right to marry -- following the same rules anyone else does.
Allowing them to marry each other accepts the premise that they are a suspect class. This is a premise that should not be accepted because by all accounts homosexuals are little more than a sex cult.
End of story.
Except of course it's obviously NOT the end of the story.

Same-sex couples can marry regardless of their sexual orientation.

Soon all states will be forced to recognize those legal marriages.

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Another thing I find incredible is these liberals who would have us believe that these jackasses who prance up and down Main Street in penis suits should have the right to adopt kids.
Ditto for the heteros in the Mardi Gras parade...

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tha Professor wrote:
Marriage is marriage. If you have the legal right to be a gay couple, you have the legal right to be a gay MARRIED couple. End of debate.
Let's climb out of the 19th century, folks.
Check this out : http://rikijo.blogspot.com

Excellent read.

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garylloyd wrote:
Homosexuals have the right to marry -- following the same rules anyone else does.
Gary, thus far, you have been utterly incapable of articulating a compelling state interest served by limiting marriage to opposites sex couples that would render such a restriction constitutional.
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Allowing them to marry each other accepts the premise that they are a suspect class.
Actually, in many jurisdictions they already are a suspect class. Allowing them equality under the law to marry the adult, consenting, same sex partner of their choosing in no way makes them a suspect class. Only an intesely stupid person would claim that it does.
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This is a premise that should not be accepted because by all accounts homosexuals are little more than a sex cult.
In your idiotic opinion, which you are utterly incapable of supporting with facts. Congratulations, Gary, you've proven that you are a bigoted idiot.
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End of story.
End of story, Gary's an idiot.

Well played.
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Allowing them equality under the law to marry the adult, consenting, same sex partner of their choosing in no way makes them a suspect class.
You left out the word "qualifying." These qualifications eliminate the possibility of marriage for many people.

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Nothing like the gays here though, and we offer free public educations, including sex education here.
And yet you anti-gays don't want the very education in public schools which could prevent many of those infections.

Btw, in many places in Africa villages are being completely depopulated because the majority of heteros have died from HIV.

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You left out the word "qualifying." These qualifications eliminate the possibility of marriage for many people.
Only if those qualifications are upheld as being constitutional.

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Wondering wrote:
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You left out the word "qualifying." These qualifications eliminate the possibility of marriage for many people.
Your opinion doesn't "qualify".

WE all say so.

Now shut up.

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Wondering wrote:
You left out the word "qualifying." These qualifications eliminate the possibility of marriage for many people.
Yes, Wondering. Yet those qualifications must serve a compelling governmental interest if they exclude anyone from a specific protection of the law, and they must be narrowly tailored to accomplish their goal.

You have consistently been incapable of offering a rational defense of restricting marriage to opposite sex couples. I have long attributed your lack of ability to present such an argument to the fact that you are both bigoted and unintelligent. Don't feel too badly, it appears that the detractors of marriage equality are having a similar difficulty in finding such an argument that would allow them to explain the restriction of marriage to opposite sex couples as being necessary, valid, and constitutional. This is why they have consistently lost in court.

Now, I shall return to ignoring your spurious drivel.

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Here's the deal: the jury is in. Thirty-years after the universal safe-sex campaign while the hetero HIV rate remains stable, the gay male HIV rate continues to grow. In 2010 MSM HIV went up a shocking 12%. Worse still, for the same time period MSM accounted for 78% of new infections among males.
CONCLUSION: What other conclusion can there be except there's no safe way to have male-to-male anal sex?...
I came to the conclusion that you are fixated on male-to-male anal sex.

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lides wrote:
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Yes, Gary, junk science. Their work is kind of like your posts, a great number of claims and assertions that cannot be supported by facts or empirical data.
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Gary is an idiot.
No kidding!

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Another thing I find incredible is these liberals who would have us believe that these jackasses who prance up and down Main Street in penis suits should have the right to adopt kids.
Don't worry, they have a "Did you prance up and down Main Street in a penis suit?" question to check off. If you check "Yes" you don't get to adopt a kid.
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And yet you anti-gays don't want the very education in public schools which could prevent many of those infections.
It's a medical issue. Whether you're gay or straight, avoid sharing needles, avoid unprotected sex. There, I just saved the taxpayers over $1 billion.

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lides wrote:
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Gary, thus far, you have been utterly incapable of articulating a compelling state interest served by limiting marriage to opposites sex couples that would render such a restriction constitutional.
I haven't articulated a compelling state interest to limiting marriage to humans either.
Actually, in many jurisdictions they already are a suspect class. Allowing them equality under the law to marry the adult, consenting, same sex partner of their choosing in no way makes them a suspect class. Only an intesely stupid person would claim that it does.
You apparently don't understand the concept of "suspect class" which is odd because you acknowledge that in some states they're already a suspect class. Tell us, Jackass, do you think that a coincide or the result of a successful legal defense for same sex marriage?

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