Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",...

Aug 28, 2013 Full story: Gateway Pundit 1,726

Is the DOJ collectively inhaling something toxic? The U.S. Justice Department has just identified atheism as a "religious movement" .

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Amused

Lowell, MA

#1 Aug 28, 2013
I went to the original post on the Gateway Pundit website. At the top was a banner ad for Medieval Manor, a restaurant that re-enacts the dark ages. Talk about effective targeted marketing! They found a website that targets people nostalgic for the dark ages to advertise on.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#2 Aug 28, 2013
As an atheist, I feel insulted. We are not a religious group.

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Nottingham, UK

#3 Aug 29, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
As an atheist, I feel insulted. We are not a religious group.
I must say with full irony Amen!
Cordwainer Trout

Sonora, KY

#4 Aug 29, 2013
The dogma of atheism is tyrannical and unjust in all of its social ramifications. People embrace this religion because they attempt to rationalize their perversions and lack of a definable moral basis. It is their immorality, which guides their immersion in a world view justifying their immorality. It is atheism, which tells them they are animal and unworthy of redemption... in fact, atheism would prefer to get rid of the word redemption, along with about 1/3 of the words in any given human language. For instance, mention "sacred" to one of them and watch them lose composure.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#5 Aug 29, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The dogma of atheism is tyrannical and unjust in all of its social ramifications. People embrace this religion because they attempt to rationalize their perversions and lack of a definable moral basis. It is their immorality, which guides their immersion in a world view justifying their immorality. It is atheism, which tells them they are animal and unworthy of redemption... in fact, atheism would prefer to get rid of the word redemption, along with about 1/3 of the words in any given human language. For instance, mention "sacred" to one of them and watch them lose composure.
Atheism doesn't have dogma isn't a religon and we're not immoral and you are a hatefull lying bigot!
Cordwainer Trout

Sonora, KY

#6 Aug 29, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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Atheism doesn't have dogma isn't a religon and we're not immoral and you are a hatefull lying bigot!
Any and every bit of morality you have, you've absorbed from the God inspired moral foundations of thousands of years. There is not one moral precept that can be claimed from believing you're nothing but an animal.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#7 Aug 29, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Any and every bit of morality you have, you've absorbed from the God inspired moral foundations of thousands of years. There is not one moral precept that can be claimed from believing you're nothing but an animal.
You are lying and spreading bullshit
Amused

Lowell, MA

#8 Aug 29, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Any and every bit of morality you have, you've absorbed from the God inspired moral foundations of thousands of years. There is not one moral precept that can be claimed from believing you're nothing but an animal.
That might possibly be true if you actually got your morals from the bible. In fact, you don't. You apply an independent moral sense derived from outside the bible to decide which biblical commands and precepts you will follow, and which you will consign to the pile of things that are no longer 'valid'.

* You don't kill people who work on Sunday, or children who sass back at their parents, although the bible commands both with enthusiasm at least equal to that with which it condemns homosexuality.

* You wouldn't get drunk and impregnate your daughters, although the bible holds up Lot, who did those things, as an example of a 'moral' person.

* You don't practice polygamy, although the bible is shot through with such folks as King David, who had hundreds of wives and concubines, which apparently bothered god not at all.

* You don't keep slaves, although the biblical god was quite keen on the practice, prescribing very detailed rules on who could be held as a slave, for how long, how the master must treat them, how much they were worth if you had to recompense the owner for the death of a slave, etc.

* You disapprove of armies exterminating the civilian population of occupied territories, although the bible god became quite miffed when the Israelite armies spared some of the womenfolk, in spite of his specific injunction to kill everyone.

The existence of a moral sense, extrinsic to the bible, which you use in deciding which biblical moral precepts to follow and which to ignore proves that the source of morality is not the bible. The fact that the basics of morality, a disapproval of murder, stealing, telling lies, or committing adultery seem to be the same in all human societies, regardless of the presence or absence of any organized religion suggests that the source of morality may be inherent in humanity.

If religion makes you moral, then religious people should behave in a moral way, regardless of social constraints. In Montreal, in the 1960's or early 70's, the city police department went on strike. Montreal is a fairly religious place. There's quite a few churches, which were fairly well attended at the time. There's a number of religious orders that originated in Montreal and still have their headquarters there. You would expect that the good, religious folks of Montreal would behave in moral ways whether the police were present or not. In fact, the police strike led to shootings, arsons, mass looting, and people generally going all Lord of the Flies until the RCMP could muster enough officers to restore order. Proof, if it were ever needed, that H.L. Mencken was right when he said, "People say we need religion, when what they mean is we need police."
Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#9 Aug 29, 2013
Atheism isnt a religion as others have already pointed out. DOJ is gonna have to change their stance or the lawsuits will continue.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#10 Aug 29, 2013
Amused wrote:
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regardless of the presence or absence of any organized religion suggests that the source of morality may be inherent in humanity.
The greatest mass murders of humanity during the 20th century had taken place in religion free zones.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#11 Aug 29, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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The greatest mass murders of humanity during the 20th century had taken place in religion free zones.
That is a standard christard lie
Amused

Lowell, MA

#12 Aug 29, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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The greatest mass murders of humanity during the 20th century had taken place in religion free zones.
You mean like the one carried out by good catholics in Germany, led by self proclaimed catholic Adolph Hitler? And religion had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the target of the killings was the Jewish population, which had suffered persecution at the hands of the christina majority of Europe for centuries, inspired by blood libels, and catholic teachings that the Jews killed Christ which were not repudiated until Vatican II, right?

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#13 Aug 29, 2013
Amused wrote:
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You mean like the one carried out by good catholics in Germany, led by self proclaimed catholic Adolph Hitler? And religion had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the target of the killings was the Jewish population, which had suffered persecution at the hands of the christina majority of Europe for centuries, inspired by blood libels, and catholic teachings that the Jews killed Christ which were not repudiated until Vatican II, right?
I said the 20th century and the only real religion icon Adolf Hitler had was himself.
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Nice try :)
Amused

Lowell, MA

#14 Aug 29, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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I said the 20th century and the only real religion icon Adolf Hitler had was himself.
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Nice try :)
Here's the way that century thing works: The first century was the one that started with the years numbered in single and double digits. Therefore, the second century is the one where the years started with 1XX. The century where the years were numbered 19XX was the 20th century. The holocaust in Germany occurred in the 1930's and 1940's. Note that those dates begin with "19". Hence, they were a part of the 20th Century.

I can't believe I am trying to start a dialogue with someone who does not even know what century he is living in. The phrase, "exercise in futility" comes readily to mind. You may be looking to escape, but you'll never make it out by tunneling your head up your own @ss.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#15 Aug 29, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Here's the way that century thing works: The first century was the one that started with the years numbered in single and double digits. Therefore, the second century is the one where the years started with 1XX. The century where the years were numbered 19XX was the 20th century. The holocaust in Germany occurred in the 1930's and 1940's. Note that those dates begin with "19". Hence, they were a part of the 20th Century.
I can't believe I am trying to start a dialogue with someone who does not even know what century he is living in. The phrase, "exercise in futility" comes readily to mind. You may be looking to escape, but you'll never make it out by tunneling your head up your own @ss.
I appreciate your need to shuffle, skip and polka.
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The greatest number of deaths had taken place in religion free zones in the last 100 years :). Does that make it better for you?
Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#16 Aug 29, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Here's the way that century thing works: The first century was the one that started with the years numbered in single and double digits. Therefore, the second century is the one where the years started with 1XX. The century where the years were numbered 19XX was the 20th century. The holocaust in Germany occurred in the 1930's and 1940's. Note that those dates begin with "19". Hence, they were a part of the 20th Century.
I can't believe I am trying to start a dialogue with someone who does not even know what century he is living in. The phrase, "exercise in futility" comes readily to mind. You may be looking to escape, but you'll never make it out by tunneling your head up your own @ss.
I know the feeling. Some times it just doesnt seem like it is worth educating people who choose to not educate themselves. I hope you can find the power to continue with the truth.
Lamer

Hopkins, MN

#17 Aug 29, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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I appreciate your need to shuffle, skip and polka.
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The greatest number of deaths had taken place in religion free zones in the last 100 years :). Does that make it better for you?
It is clear you are pretty looney. Afganistan has a religion and tens of 1000s killed there. Same with Iraq but the body count there is 100s of 1000s. Somilia has a huge body count as well, and guess what they have....religion.

Do you care to point out where these "religion free zones" are, i know many atheist whom would be intereted in knowing their locations.
coyote

Rio Rancho, NM

#18 Aug 29, 2013
AND, it is made even clearer by the discussion above that Atheism IS a religion, with adherents who get very upset with any who question it, just like Liberals do.
Atheism and Liberalism are BOTH religions, belief systems not subject to proof or disproof, only to defense by declaring any who disagree to be EVIL. Unfortunately, while atheism will probably never make it into the public schools, Liberalism dominates there.
If you really want to be non-religious, you need to be an agnostic pragmatist.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#19 Aug 29, 2013
coyote wrote:
AND, it is made even clearer by the discussion above that Atheism IS a religion, with adherents who get very upset with any who question it, just like Liberals do.
Atheism and Liberalism are BOTH religions, belief systems not subject to proof or disproof, only to defense by declaring any who disagree to be EVIL. Unfortunately, while atheism will probably never make it into the public schools, Liberalism dominates there.
If you really want to be non-religious, you need to be an agnostic pragmatist.
I haven't said that anyone is evil, let alone in all caps. After all, never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity.
xianity is EVIL

Tecumseh, Canada

#20 Aug 29, 2013
coyote wrote:
AND, it is made even clearer by the discussion above that Atheism IS a religion, with adherents who get very upset with any who question it, just like Liberals do.
Atheism and Liberalism are BOTH religions, belief systems not subject to proof or disproof, only to defense by declaring any who disagree to be EVIL. Unfortunately, while atheism will probably never make it into the public schools, Liberalism dominates there.
If you really want to be non-religious, you need to be an agnostic pragmatist.
youre Lying,
you must be kristain

I dont believe or worship gods,that makes me atheist,I dont know if some UNdefined god exists that makes me also agnostic,,
so Im ATHEIST AGNOSTIC ,,and since I dont worship god I have NO religion,learn the Facts stupid!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

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