BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 196849 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 8, 2009, titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12


#151477 Apr 17, 2013
LRS wrote:
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You make me laugh! Canada should haul you off the streets for safety reasons to all people. You're not right upstairs, Sparkles. Frustrated? Over what? Your repetitive daily drivel? LMAO! Looking at your post you seem to be the one that is frustrated. You poor SAP! squid
I'm not the one who replies "STFU QUEER". You see, slug, I stomp you inert without ever, ever using YOUR kind of filth.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#151480 Apr 17, 2013
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"I" definitely AGREE with Rove on THIS!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#151481 Apr 17, 2013
Bills 'nullifying' Washington overreach gaining momentum across the country


Spokane, WA

#151483 Apr 17, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Re: "No other president ever lied about his past."
Answer: MANY presidents have lied about their pasts.
Re: " No other president had a father who was a foreigner."
Quite a few have had fathers who were foreigners including James Buchanan, whose father was not nationalized, and Chester A. Arther, whose father was not nationalized either (and there is absolutely no evidence that he hid the fact that his father was not nationalized' Buchanan certainly didn't). And the first presidential candidate of the Republican party, John C. Fremont, had a FRENCH father, who was not nationalized before Fremont was born, and Fremont was proud of that fact, and publicized it in his campaign biography.
It is certainly the case that the citizenship of a father, or of BOTH the father and the mother, has absolutely no effect on Natural Born Citizen status, making Jindal and Rubio (like Obama) Natural Born US Citizens. The meaning comes from the common law and refers to the PLACE of birth, and Obama's place of birth was Hawaii. And this is proved by his birth certificate from Hawaii and the confirmation of it by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii (including the former Republican governor) and by the public Index Data file and by the birth notices sent to the Hawaii papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and only the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii).
Re: "Our country has never really tolerated carpet beggars like Obama."
We tolerated George W. Bush---and what proof is there that he was born in the USA?
Re: " No other president has ever ran The Office with no credentials other than the fact that he attended exclusive private schools."
Answer: Occidental College and Columbia College have confirmed that Obama attended; Columbia has confirmed that Obama graduated. Harvard Law School has confirmed that Obama graduated from Harvard Law School MAGNA CUM LAUDE.
Re: "When it came out that Obama finished in the bottom of his class in his exclusive private school, it was natural for the general population to inquire about his record."
Answer: I say that that is a LIE. Show a link to confirm that claim, or be known as a liar.
Re "not transparent" Obama has shown his birth certificate. In fact he showed it twice, the short form and the long form. This was in contrast to ALL other presidents, none of whom showed their birth certificates.
As for other information,Obama has not shown his college grades, but then neither did Mitt Romney or any other president or presidential candidate. In other words, Obama does not have to show his college grades. You are welcome to dream that a man who got into Harvard Law School and who graduated from Harvard Law School Magna Cum Laude did not get good grades---but that says more about you than anything.
I have a better idea,prove that Obama didn't graduate from Punahou near or at the bottom of his class. Romney graduated from Harvard with higher honors than Obama. All other Presidential candidates prior to Obama had nothing to hide or were bounced out of the race early if they had something to hide. For some reason Obama was above question or anyone questioning his credentials was dismissed or outcast,when in reality Obama should have been the one cast out in 2008.

Spokane, WA

#151485 Apr 17, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: "and subject to the jurisdiction" simply means having to obey US laws. Foreign diplomats are not "subject to the jurisdiction" because they do not have to obey US laws. Everyone else who is in the USA is "subject to the jurisdiction."
The idea that a foreign tourist in the USA is not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the USA and hence does not have to obey US law is nutty.
On October 1, the US Supreme Court turned down two birther appeals of one of the TEN cases that had all ruled that Obama and McCain are Natural Born Citizens due simply to their place of birth, on US soil, the Farrar case in Georgia, which had ruled that "children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents." By rejecting the appeal, the US Supreme Court allowed the ruling of the lower court to STAND.
Barack Obama's father was never a citizen of the United States,not even for one day.

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#151487 Apr 17, 2013
Influential U.S. Congressman: We Know Obama Birth Certificate Is Fake; Soebarkah Safe While In The White House; Fear Ridicule #!

Shreveport, LA

#151488 Apr 17, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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So, you think Obama should've been aborted, right? You call yourself a Christian, a Catholic? Is your comment in line with the church's teachings? Would you now call yourself a flaming hyporite?
You, not unlike your buddy LRS, are probably the result of a botched alleyway abortion. Maybe, indeed, abortion should've been allowed whatever year it is you and the slimy slug were born.
PS : All whales are worth saving. They are noble animals, much unlike you and your ilk.
Bytch, whine, moan. Bytch, whine, moan. Bytch, whine, moan. Tsk Tsk! LMAO! You're cracking me up, Sparkles! Remember jackwad, the best part of you ran down your brother's azz crack and oozed onto the floor!

Spokane, WA

#151489 Apr 17, 2013
Poppo wrote:
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The only candidate they’ve ever had an interest in knowing anything about is Obama and ironically he’s the only one they know the most about, made up or otherwise. So obviously it’s not transparency they seek but confirmation of their delusion. Problem is they don’t know the difference.
We know enough about Obama to know that he doesn't have the best interest of The United States of America on his agenda. We knew that nine years ago when we read "Dreams from My Father". No other presidential candidate would ever had made it into the primaries after publishing a book like that one.

Shreveport, LA

#151491 Apr 17, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Fool. No bomb. No incendiary device. It was a FIRE, slug. Like a fire in your trailer though god knows you could put it out quickly with the garbage strewn all around.
Hey, how're the beautiful nurse girl friends and their brother the world-famous surgeon? Ha ha. LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).
jakeleg, your memory is non-existent. The nurses are doing just fine, thanks for asking. Surgeon? Memory issues are eating you up. What I posted yesterday was reported on the news. Actually, I keep a very neat home, inside and out. Return to your dumpster. We'll be in touch! LMAO! pilgrim

Maybe this will help you out.

One nurse is an RN.(look it up)
The other is an RN and a surgeon's first asst.
Her brother is an Anesthesiologist.(look it up)
LMAO!! dumbazzbastard
American Lady

Danville, KY

#151492 Apr 17, 2013
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American Lady

Danville, KY

#151493 Apr 17, 2013
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“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#151494 Apr 17, 2013
Hey Jacques,
How come every time I see Joe Biden he looks like has a permanent scowl etched on his face? You would think bein' VP and all he'd be a little more jovial sometimes, what with the free ride and all

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#151495 Apr 17, 2013
It's hard not to agree that he looks more often than not like an angry old man than a dignitary.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08


#151496 Apr 17, 2013
Grand Birther

Oregon, OH

#151502 Apr 17, 2013
American Lady wrote:
Umm, Unamerican Lunch Lady. This word is not applicable in this situation. Please go back to 2nd grade and start over. Make sure you lay attention this time.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#151503 Apr 18, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
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Umm, Unamerican Lunch Lady. This word is not applicable in this situation. Please go back to 2nd grade and start over. Make sure you lay attention this time.
I'll lay attention all right ...
HERE have some LAID on "u"
SHAKE in ya boots with it!

Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#151504 Apr 18, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Re: "All aliens are here under reciprocal agreements (treaties) between their countries and the US government, as to how they will be treated, but they are never subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution."
BALONEY. Complete and total baloney. We do not have reciprocal treaties with all of the 200 or so countries in the word, and yet every single citizen of those countries who visits the USA is subject to the laws of the USA. THAT is what "subject to the jurisdiction" means. Only foreign diplomats are not subject to our laws and hence are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the USA.
The oath of allegiance is only for foreigners who become US citizens by being naturalized. A child born on US soil does not have take the oath because, duh, she or he is NOT a foreigner but instead is a Natural Born US Citizen.
Mustata v. US Dept. of Justice, 179 F.3d 1017 (6th Cir. 1999)(children born in US to two Romanian citizens described as “natural born citizens” of the US):
“Petitioners Marian and Lenuta Mustata are citizens of Romania. At the time of their petition, they resided in Michigan with their two minor children, who are natural born citizens of the United States.”
Diaz-Salazar v. INS, 700 F.2d 1156 (7th Cir. 1983)(child born in US to Mexican citizen is “natural born citizen” of US):
“Petitioner, Sebastian Diaz-Salazar, entered the United States illegally [from Mexico] in 1974 and has been living and working in Chicago since that time.*** The relevant facts which have been placed before the INS, BIA, and this court can be summarized as follows: The petitioner has a wife and two children under the age of three in Chicago; the children are natural-born citizens of the United States.”
Nwankpa v. Kissinger, 376 F. Supp. 122 (M.D. Ala. 1974)(child born in US to two Biafra citizens described as “natural born citizen” of the US):
“The Plaintiff was a native of Biafra, now a part of the Republic of Nigeria. His wife and two older children are also natives of that country, but his third child, a daughter, is a natural-born citizen of the United States.”
Hollander v. McCain (New Hampshire 2008) ruling:“Those born “in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” U.S. Const., amend. XIV, have been considered American citizens under American law in effect since the time of the founding, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 674-75 (1898), and thus eligible for the presidency..."
THAT is what the courts have ruled, not your crazy definition of "jurisdiction."
We have 12,000+ treaties. The remainder of your post has been answered many times over, but I do like to see you scamper for a rebuttal!!! LMAO!!!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#151505 Apr 18, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Re: "No, to be a citizen of the US you must be subject to the US Constitution and if you are born here and a citizen of another nation at the time of your birth, you do not receive citizenship of the US.
The US Constitution has never recognized a dual-citizenship. "
No to be a citizen of the USA you simply have to be born on US soil and NOT be the child of a foreign diplomat. In some cases that creates dual citizenship, but as you say the US Constitution does not recognize dual citizenship so in terms of US law the citizenship in a foreign country is totally irrelevant. ONLY the US citizenship is recognized under US law.
EVERY child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is born subject to the USA and hence is a Natural Born US Citizen. THAT is what the courts have ruled in scores of cases; they do not believe your nutty theory.
"Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship." WKA v. US, para 34
Obama was born a citizen of his father's nation, just a fact you must live with! LMAO!!!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#151506 Apr 18, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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So it is your contention, Justice ha ha Dale,that "families of mass shooting victims," are nothing but LOL!!!.
It is my contention, you liberals had your asses handed to you!!! Nothing more and nothing less!!! LMAO!!!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#151508 Apr 18, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Duck and cover Dufus. Duck and cover. Your fable does not limit Korea to only children of Korean parents
Do I really have to get into the fact that Obama was born a citizen of the US?
LMAO!!! Keep reaching for those low hanging branches, but yes please tell us why Obama is a citizen, I do enjoy all of those long and irrelevant posts.

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