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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#99840 Aug 14, 2012
American Lady wrote:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad .com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how- could-stanl.html
http://zachjonesishome.wordpress.com/2009/08/...
http://rense.com/general82/stan.htm
tee hee hee
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Now we see American Lady's true color's !!!!!!!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#99841 Aug 14, 2012
Old Goat wrote:
<quoted text>So, citizenship does not depend upon the jus soli doctrine.
Nope.

Learn how to read, BirfoonBoy. Learn how to think!

Do you think naturalized citizenship depends upon the jus soli principle? Huh? Ya know, naturalized citizens are, in fact, citizens.

And natural born citizens (persons born citizens in the US) are also citizens. Wowee-Zowee!

Got a clue yet?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Learn how to read, birfoon.
Again: citizenship according to statute does not depend upon natural allegiance per jus soli doctrine.
That means, birfoon, if a statute confers citizenship, it does not depend upon natural allegiance per jus soli doctrine.
Capisce? Eh? MORON?
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#99842 Aug 14, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? UR disenfranchised? RU an illegal alien?
<quoted text>
Professor wojar.

You seem to be fond of referencing the Republican's 14th Amendment. Have you actually ever read it?

Ronald

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#99843 Aug 14, 2012
Old Goat wrote:
<quoted text>Yes all persons born in the US are citizens, if they are not born citizens of their father's country of origin.
Ipse dixit. WTF. Who cares? UR a nobody going nowhere without a clue. Sorry, loser.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? RU on LSD? Sorry, BirfoonBoy, the US Constitution supersedes all treaties, no matter what you think, in your fractured comprehension, what a treaty may specify.
Bottom line: No treaty can deprive a natural born citizen of his birthright per the Constitution.
"Every person born in the United States,
and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at
once a citizen thereof, and needs no naturalization.
A person born out of the jurisdiction can only become
a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty
or by authority of congress, in declaring certain
classes of persons to be citizens, or by enabling foreigners
individually to become citizens by proceedings
in judicial tribunals." See head notes, Westlaw, US v. Ark.
MORON.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#99844 Aug 14, 2012
Old Goat wrote:
<quoted text>looks like you have had your lunch eaten!
Looks like BirfoonBoy has not kept up with inheritance law in the past 200 years.

Hee hee hee.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is the BOMB.
You have no clue what UR talking about.
Incidentally, an American child can inherit land owned by a parent in many foreign countries. What may have been English law at one time is neither here nor there. UR a fool.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#99845 Aug 14, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok Wojar, what is it about Obama you like? What he's done for the economy, foreign relations, the military....what?
Huh? Where do you see "Obama" in my post?

Here it is again.

Sorry, Birfoon, for hundreds of years, citizenship was based upon place of birth in this country. C.f., the numerous court decisions in THIS COUNTRY. What country RU from?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, Birfoon, for hundreds of years, citizenship was based upon place of birth in this country. C.f., the numerous court decisions in THIS COUNTRY. What country RU from?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#99847 Aug 14, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Paris Peace Treaty
(PEACE TREATY of 1783)
Text Version
In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity.
It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America, to forget all past misunderstandings and differences that have unhappily interrupted the good correspondence and friendship which they mutually wish to restore, and to establish such a beneficial and satisfactory intercourse , between the two countries upon the ground of reciprocal advantages and mutual convenience as may promote and secure to both perpetual peace and harmony; and having for this desirable end already laid the foundation of peace and reconciliation by the Provisional Articles signed at Paris on the 30th of November 1782, by the commissioners empowered on each part, which articles were agreed to be inserted in and constitute the Treaty of Peace proposed to be concluded between the Crown of Great Britain and the said United States, but which treaty was not to be concluded until terms of peace should be agreed upon between Great Britain and France and his Britannic Majesty should be ready to conclude such treaty accordingly; and the treaty between Great Britain and France having since been concluded, his Britannic Majesty and the United States of America,...John Jay, Esqr., late president of Congress and chief justice of the state of New York, and minister plenipotentiary from the said United States at the court of Madrid; to be plenipotentiaries for the concluding and signing the present definitive treaty; who after having reciprocally communicated their respective full powers have agreed upon and confirmed the following articles.
...
Article 7:
There shall be a firm and perpetual peace between his Brittanic Majesty and the said states, and between the subjects of the one and the citizens of the other, wherefore all hostilities both by sea and land shall from henceforth cease. All prisoners on both sides shall be set at liberty, and his Brittanic Majesty shall with all convenient speed, and without causing any destruction, or carrying away any Negroes or other property of the American inhabitants, withdraw all his armies, garrisons, and fleets from the said United States, and from every post, place, and harbor within the same; leaving in all fortifications, the American artilery that may be therein; and shall also order and cause all archives, records, deeds, and papers belonging to any of the said states, or their citizens, which in the course of the war may have fallen into the hands of his officers, to be forthwith restored and delivered to the proper states and persons to whom they belong.
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/mile...
Wowee-Zowee, do you have an effing point?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? RU on LSD? Sorry, BirfoonBoy, the US Constitution supersedes all treaties, no matter what you think, in your fractured comprehension, what a treaty may specify.
Bottom line: No treaty can deprive a natural born citizen of his birthright per the Constitution.
"Every person born in the United States,
and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at
once a citizen thereof, and needs no naturalization.
A person born out of the jurisdiction can only become
a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty
or by authority of congress, in declaring certain
classes of persons to be citizens, or by enabling foreigners
individually to become citizens by proceedings
in judicial tribunals." See head notes, Westlaw, US v. Ark.
MORON.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#99848 Aug 14, 2012
You can't be a natural born citizen if you are not a citizen at all, even though you were a natural born citizen at birth.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#99849 Aug 14, 2012
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
Professor wojar.
You seem to be fond of referencing the Republican's 14th Amendment. Have you actually ever read it?
Ronald
Huh? Where do you see 14th Amendment in the post UR REPLYING TO?

Hallucination?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? UR disenfranchised? RU an illegal alien?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#99850 Aug 14, 2012
American Lady wrote:
You can't be a natural born citizen if you are not a citizen at all, even though you were a natural born citizen at birth.
OK, try stating that in the English language.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#99851 Aug 14, 2012
If You Think Founding Fathers Didn’t Want This Country To Be A Christian One, Put This In Your Pipe And Smoke It
vs.
Barack Hussein Obama and his mockery of the Bible

http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/tag/t...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#99852 Aug 14, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, try stating that in the English language.
Does iT "twist" your lil' brain ALL out of WHACK?:)

In the United States, What is a Natural Born Citizen?
A natural born citizen ... were Barack Obama and Ann Dunham, then he would not even have been a statutory citizen at birth ... at all, though many would have you ...
www.wisegeek.com/...what-is-a-natural-born-ci... - Cached

OBAMA Indicates Not All “Native Born” Are Eligible To Be ...
... the time of your birth – you were born as a US citizen, and you are eligible, or you are not. It can’t ... case make Obama a natural born citizen even though ...
naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/o... ...- Cached

==========
If – at the time of your birth – you are born on US soil, then you are a US citizen at the time of your birth and therefore you are eligible to be President.

But President Obama does not agree with that simple definition.

Obama is on record as denying that all native born on US soil are – at the time of their birth – US citizens. Perhaps you missed it, but Obama announced a new Constitutional requirement for President that is not contained in the actual Constitution. According to President Obama, his supporters are wrong and it is not enough just to be born on US soil. Obama requires more.

I am referring to Obama’s stand against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act (BAIPA) back in March 2001 when he was a Senator in Illinois. That act sought to grant equal protection under the law to all those born alive after an abortion attempt failed and the child was delivered into the world alive. The BAIPA sought to recognize that such persons were US citizens deserving of equal protection under the law so that these infants could not be murdered after they were born.

Obama fought against those born alive from being recognized as US citizens. He fought against them having equal protection under the law. And in doing so, he therefore added a more stringent requirement to POTUS eligibility than is listed in the US Constitution. According to Obama, if one is born into the world (“native born” on US soil) prior to being viable, then one is not a US citizen. If one is not, at the time they are born, a US citizen, then one is not eligible to be President.

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#99853 Aug 14, 2012
Ooopsie...the above "wisegeek" doesn't work!
This one does :)

http://www.wisegeek.com/in-the-united-states-...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#99854 Aug 14, 2012
American Lady wrote:
You can't be a natural born citizen if you are not a citizen at all, even though you were a natural born citizen at birth.
Ummmmm. If you were born a natural born citizen, you cannot lose that status unless by FORMALLY RENOUNCING citizenship according to regulations after reaching the age of majority.

Hee hee hee.

Sorry, BirfoonLady, returning to the US at age 10 and residing here for the rest of his life and becoming President doesn't sound like a formal renunciation. Does it?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#99855 Aug 14, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Paris Peace Treaty
(PEACE TREATY of 1783)
Text Version
In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity.
It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America, to forget all past misunderstandings and differences that have unhappily interrupted the good correspondence and friendship which they mutually wish to restore, and to establish such a beneficial and satisfactory intercourse , between the two countries upon the ground of reciprocal advantages and mutual convenience as may promote and secure to both perpetual peace and harmony; and having for this desirable end already laid the foundation of peace and reconciliation by the Provisional Articles signed at Paris on the 30th of November 1782, by the commissioners empowered on each part, which articles were agreed to be inserted in and constitute the Treaty of Peace proposed to be concluded between the Crown of Great Britain and the said United States, but which treaty was not to be concluded until terms of peace should be agreed upon between Great Britain and France and his Britannic Majesty should be ready to conclude such treaty accordingly; and the treaty between Great Britain and France having since been concluded, his Britannic Majesty and the United States of America,...John Jay, Esqr., late president of Congress and chief justice of the state of New York, and minister plenipotentiary from the said United States at the court of Madrid; to be plenipotentiaries for the concluding and signing the present definitive treaty; who after having reciprocally communicated their respective full powers have agreed upon and confirmed the following articles.
...
Wowee-Zowee. BTW, Birfoonlady, the US Constitution supersedes all treaties. If you haven't figured it out yet, the Constitution was ratified AFTER the Treaty of Paris. Meanwhile, WTF does this have to do with your BIRFOON FANTASY? Huh?

wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? RU on LSD? Sorry, BirfoonBoy, the US Constitution supersedes all treaties, no matter what you think, in your fractured comprehension, what a treaty may specify.
Bottom line: No treaty can deprive a natural born citizen of his birthright per the Constitution.
"Every person born in the United States,
and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at
once a citizen thereof, and needs no naturalization.
A person born out of the jurisdiction can only become
a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty
or by authority of congress, in declaring certain
classes of persons to be citizens, or by enabling foreigners
individually to become citizens by proceedings
in judicial tribunals." See head notes, Westlaw, US v. Ark.
MORON.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#99856 Aug 14, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Does iT "twist" your lil' brain ALL out of WHACK?:)
In the United States, What is a Natural Born Citizen?
A natural born citizen ... were Barack Obama and Ann Dunham, then he would not even have been a statutory citizen at birth ... at all, though many would have you ...
www.wisegeek.com/...what-is-a-natural-born-ci... - Cached
OBAMA Indicates Not All “Native Born” Are Eligible To Be ...
... the time of your birth – you were born as a US citizen, and you are eligible, or you are not. It can’t ... case make Obama a natural born citizen even though ...
naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/o... ...- Cached
==========
If – at the time of your birth – you are born on US soil, then you are a US citizen at the time of your birth and therefore you are eligible to be President.
But President Obama does not agree with that simple definition.
Obama is on record as denying that all native born on US soil are – at the time of their birth – US citizens. Perhaps you missed it, but Obama announced a new Constitutional requirement for President that is not contained in the actual Constitution. According to President Obama, his supporters are wrong and it is not enough just to be born on US soil. Obama requires more.
I am referring to Obama’s stand against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act (BAIPA) back in March 2001 when he was a Senator in Illinois. That act sought to grant equal protection under the law to all those born alive after an abortion attempt failed and the child was delivered into the world alive. The BAIPA sought to recognize that such persons were US citizens deserving of equal protection under the law so that these infants could not be murdered after they were born.
Obama fought against those born alive from being recognized as US citizens. He fought against them having equal protection under the law. And in doing so, he therefore added a more stringent requirement to POTUS eligibility than is listed in the US Constitution. According to Obama, if one is born into the world (“native born” on US soil) prior to being viable, then one is not a US citizen. If one is not, at the time they are born, a US citizen, then one is not eligible to be President.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/...
Sorry, BirfoonLady, I don't give a rat's arse if you think the President agrees or does not agree with "that simple definition."

What matters is the law in this country, and per the law, he is the PRESIDENT.

Capisce?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, try stating that in the English language.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#99857 Aug 14, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? Where do you see "Obama" in my post?
Here it is again.
Sorry, Birfoon, for hundreds of years, citizenship was based upon place of birth in this country. C.f., the numerous court decisions in THIS COUNTRY. What country RU from?
<quoted text>
How silly of me. I thought you had been on here supporting him all this time. Direct questions always dumbfound Dims.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#99858 Aug 14, 2012
You've lost all credibility Wojap. Dumbazzedbastard.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#99859 Aug 14, 2012
LMAO at the squid. "If" you're in this country, please leave at once. Thanks in advance wojap. LMAO
American Lady

Danville, KY

#99860 Aug 14, 2012
The mother of a path-breaking politician was a quiet ***revolutionary*** in her own right, according to this vibrant biography...
In her book, Scott discusses Dunham's intellectual interests, stormy marriages, and how her years of separation from her son affected his psychological development. Dunham (1942–1995) is presented by Scott as a study in unconventionality: a “feminist pioneer” who entered an inter-racial marriage at a time when they were illegal in many states; bore a son at 18; became an expatriate who thrived in the alien culture of Indonesia after her divorce from Obama's father.

http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-1-59448-7...

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