BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
rider

Gwinn, MI

#58342 Feb 16, 2012
Inside the Company: CIA Diary – Philip Agee « PNAC ATTACK ...
May 7, 2011 ... Gestapo (Geheime Staatspolizei)– Secret (Nazi-fascist) state police.= CIA is US Torturing institution which have also tortured (in Vietnam,...

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Old Goat

Wichita, KS

#58343 Feb 16, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
In accordance with the birfoon fantasy that Article 3 Section 1 vests the judicial power of the United States a few illiterate birfoons.
Hee hee hee.
<quoted text>
irrelevant! The USSC can not change the Constitution of the USA.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#58344 Feb 16, 2012
Project for a New American Century PNAC: the "Mein Kampf" of ...
According to the CIA, the U.S. military budget in 1999 was $276.7 billion.... I'd be the last person to compare anyone with Hitler, but I have to admit that the plan ...

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“Hate Bully Trolls”

Since: Feb 12

USA

#58345 Feb 16, 2012
Koghii wrote:
<quoted text>Touched a nerve. LMAO@U
I hear you touch more than Enoch's nerves.LMFAO
Jacques in Ottawa

North York, Canada

#58346 Feb 16, 2012
Marcus Garvey wrote:
<quoted text>Any economics 101 textbook. Please tell the class how reducing the supply of oil and gas will not cause prices to go up. Please tell the class how the cost of new regulations will not be passed on to the consumer.
Yes, Obama reduced the supply of crude by not approving the pipeline which was to go ON LINE IN 5 YEARS. So much for that. Marcus adds that Obama (gosh, that Obama gets involved in every aspect of the nation's business) reduced refining capacity. Strange, as the had record exports of refined petroleum products, mostly gas. How come?
Jacques in Ottawa

North York, Canada

#58347 Feb 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
What does this have to do with a liar who said I wrote that I would do "things" to his daugher?
Old Goat

Wichita, KS

#58348 Feb 16, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
GTBIRFOON declares USSC case bogus, based on birfoon fantasy constitution, that vests judicial power of the United States in the Supreme Court of Birthers.
Hee hee hee. Enjoy your pipe dream!
<quoted text>
Fantasy! You only wish. See I can post to you without call you a fuching idiot.
Old Goat

Wichita, KS

#58349 Feb 16, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Big Lie?
Where's your evidentiary fact?
All you have to do is pull it out!
GT's transvestite g/f couldn't find "it" either. Hee hee hee.
<quoted text>
I have check it out.
rightly so

Princeton, TX

#58350 Feb 16, 2012
Does anyone still wonder why birthers are so stupid?

Since: Feb 12

Chicago, IL

#58351 Feb 16, 2012
my co-worker's aunt makes $67 an hour on the laptop. She has been out of work for 9 months but last month her income was $8310 just working on the laptop for a few hours. Read more on this site... http://999c.ulinks.net

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#58352 Feb 16, 2012
LurkerLooky wrote:
<quoted text>
U.S. Constitution
Article II Sect I Clause 5
No Person except a natural born Citizen, OR a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;
U.S. Constitution
Article I Sect 8 Clause 10
, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;
The Congress shall have Power…To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations
CHAP. XIX.
OF OUR NATIVE COUNTRY, AND SEVERAL THINGS THAT RELATE TO IT.
The Law of Nations and Principles of Natural Law(1758)
§ 212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
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The United States Constitution is deliberately inefficient.
The Separation of Powers devised by the framers of the Constitution was designed to do one primary thing:
to prevent the majority from ruling with an iron fist.
Based on their experience, the framers shied away from giving any branch of the new government too much power. The separation of powers provides a system of shared power known as Checks and Balances.
Three branches are created in the Constitution. The Legislative, composed of the House and Senate, is set up in Article 1. The Executive, composed of the President, Vice-President, and the Departments, is set up in Article 2. The Judicial, composed of the federal courts and the Supreme Court, is set up in Article 3.
Each of these branches has certain powers, and each of these powers is limited, or checked, by another branch.
For example, the President appoints judges and departmental secretaries. But these appointments must be approved by the Senate. The Congress can pass a law, but the President can veto it. The Supreme Court can rule a ....
Yup, Art 2, Sec 1,¶4 (not ¶5).(Original ¶4 was superseded.)

“It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.” James Madison

“’[W]e find that the Constitution has recognized the general principle of public law, that allegiance and citizenship depend on the place of birth.‘ This doctrine of citizenship by reason of place of birth is spoken of by the writers on the subject as the jus soli or common law doctrine.” Perkins v. Elg, 99 F. 2d 408, 410 (App.DC 1938), modified and affirmed, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).(internal citation omitted)

Sorry birfoon.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
In accordance with the birfoon fantasy that Article 3 Section 1 vests the judicial power of the United States a few illiterate birfoons.
Hee hee hee.
Jacques in Ottawa

North York, Canada

#58353 Feb 16, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously you do knot no a thing about ballistics. The bullet needs to hit something very hard to ricochet. Since he seemed to be familiar with firearms, he too new that.
Did you notice the bullets passed through the computer and went into the ground? The computer was his property and his to do with as he saw fit. Then do not send people two jail for killing there computer.
There was nothing in the room that was hard on which the bullets could ricochet? You know this for a fact? There is not a cement floor in the basement where the bullets could have ricochetted and continue through a window outside? Stranger things have happened with guns. Like very experience gun owners shooting themselves or family while cleaning their loaded gun.

Look, Rogue, you are supposed to be a seasoned aviator, seen action, handled guns, are you trying to convince us that this so-called dad, tired of his daugther's computer use, was right to set up a video, take out his big gun and fire it a number of times at his daughter's oomputer? I insist there was danger, but let's say there was none, you approve of his way of disciplining her? You don't think he should be arrested and his daughter handed over to state authorities and be put in a foster home? This guy is a public danger.
Jacques in Ottawa

North York, Canada

#58355 Feb 16, 2012
Old Goat wrote:
<quoted text>Dance fur me!!!
Please stop making a fool of yourself. That is a nonsensical remark made by a birther who has no valid reply. Best to stay quiet.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#58356 Feb 16, 2012
HighlyEvolved wrote:
<quoted text>
I submit the testimony of one Andrea Yates, who alleges that God told her to drown her children so that they would go to heaven before they were exposed to sin and damned forever.
As precedent, Mrs. Yates' attorney cited the request from God to Abram to slaughter his child Isaac, and the incident wherein Jephthah sacrificed his virgin daughter because God granted him victory over the sinful Ammonites.(See Judges 10)
Clearly God is not opposed to the sacrifice of a human child as a sin offering, especially since God himself sacrificed his own child to rid the world of sin.
Of course, the world is even more sinful than ever, so you'd think that people would realize that it doesn't work, not even for God.
Meanwhile, my point stands: the odds of a child being infected by sin is zero if the child never leaves the womb. Thus, the only 100% guaranteed method of keeping your child safe from sin, and therefore assuring him or her a place in heaven, is to kill it before it's born.
And that's why good values and morals come from science, not the Bible.
And who or what told Jerad Loughner to shoot Garielle Gifford? George Soros? After all, Gifford was a Blue Dog Democrat (same as a moderate Republican).

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#58357 Feb 16, 2012
LurkerLooky wrote:
The Constitutional Topics pages at the USConstitution.net site are presented to delve deeper into topics than can be provided on the Glossary Page or in the FAQ pages. This Topic Page concerns Constitutional Checks and Balances. The entire Constitution, especially Articles 1, 2, and 3.
Source material for this topic page include the Constitution, Government by the People by James Burns, J.W. Peltason, and Thomas Cronin (Prentice-Hall, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, 1984), and Constitutional Law by Daniel Hall (Lawyers Cooperative Publishing, Albany, NY, 1997).
The American constitutional system includes a notion known as the Separation of Powers. In this system, several branches of government are created and power is shared between them. At the same time, the powers of one branch can be challenged by another branch. This is what the system of checks and balances is all about.
There are three branches in the United States government as established by the Constitution. First, the Legislative branch makes the law. Second, the Executive branch executes the law. Last, the Judicial branch interprets the law. Each branch has an effect on the other.
Legislative Branch
Checks on the Executive
Impeachment power (House)
Trial of impeachments (Senate)
Selection of the President (House) and Vice President (Senate) in the case of no majority of electoral votes
May override Presidential vetoes
Senate approves departmental appointments
Senate approves treaties and ambassadors
Approval of replacement Vice President
Power to declare war
Power to enact taxes and allocate funds
President must, from time-to-time, deliver a State of the Union address
Checks on the Judiciary
Senate approves federal judges
Impeachment power (House)
Trial of impeachments (Senate)
Power to initiate constitutional amendments
Power to set courts inferior to the Supreme Court
Power to set jurisdiction of courts
Power to alter the size of the Supreme Court
Checks on the Legislature - because it is bicameral, the Legislative branch has a degree of self-checking.
Bills must be passed by both houses of Congress
House must originate revenue bills
Neither house may adjourn for more than three days without the consent of the other house
All journals are to be published
Executive Branch
Checks on the Legislature
Veto power
Vice President is President of the Senate
Commander in chief of the military
Recess appointments
Emergency calling into session of one or both houses of Congress
May force adjournment when both houses cannot agree on adjournment
Compensation cannot be diminished
Checks on the Judiciary
Power to appoint judges
Pardon power
Checks on the Executive
Vice President and Cabinet can vote that the President is unable to discharge his duties
Judicial Branch
Checks on the Legislature
Judicial review
Seats are held on good behavior
Compensation cannot be diminished
Checks on the Executive
Judicial review
Chief Justice sits as President of the Senate during presidential impeachment
Wow! There are three branches!

Jagoff.
Jacques in Ottawa

North York, Canada

#58359 Feb 16, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
You idiot, GM and Chrysler DID go through bankruptcy.
Ford didn't need to.
What freaking planet do you live on?
Duck, GB, cussing and rude reply on the way.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#58360 Feb 16, 2012
LurkerLooky wrote:
U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 1
Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 1 - The Legislature
<<Back | Table of Contents | Next>>
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
Notes for this section:
Separation of Powers
Members of Congress
The Legislature
<<Back | Table of Contents | Next>>
Wow!
That cut'n'paste is supposed to be impressive?

Got a point?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#58362 Feb 16, 2012
LurkerLooky wrote:
U.S. Constitution - Article 3 Section 1
Article 3 - The Judicial Branch
Section 1 - Judicial Powers
<<Back | Table of Contents | Next>>
The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Notes for this section:
Separation of Powers
<<Back | Table of Contents | Next>>
Yup. The judicial Power of the United States, shall NOT be vested in the uneducated opinions of a few birfoons posting on Topix.
Old Goat

Wichita, KS

#58363 Feb 16, 2012
Jacques in Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Please stop making a fool of yourself. That is a nonsensical remark made by a birther who has no valid reply. Best to stay quiet.
Homorhagic! I coined that one, just for you.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#58365 Feb 16, 2012
Old Goat wrote:
<quoted text>Guess what, neither can changed the Constitution, nor can case law, statutes, Acts or precedence.
Now you know why the Civil Rights Act was moved into the 14th Amendment, an Act can be overturned very easy, an amenndemnt, not so!
Huh? The USSC cannot "changed the Constitution" [sic] according to birfoon fantasy?

Do you know why the Founders wrote Article 3 Section 1?(You do know the Founders wrote Article 3 Section 1, don't you?)

Eh? Birfoon?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The USSC and lower courts "have" the the judicial power to apply 14th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1866, and are vested with judicial power under Article 3 Section 1.
The Electoral College "has" [the power] Article 2 Section 1 to elect the President.
GTBIRFOON has his d*** in his hands.

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