Ohio Attempt at "Personhood" Amendmen...

Ohio Attempt at "Personhood" Amendment Falls Short

There are 30 comments on the WSYX story from Jul 3, 2012, titled Ohio Attempt at "Personhood" Amendment Falls Short. In it, WSYX reports that:

An anti-abortion group in Ohio has fallen short in its attempt to gather enough signatures to change the state constitution to declare that life begins when a human egg is fertilized.

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June 35th 2012

Carol Stream, IL

#1 Jul 3, 2012
Robottea! yee joke with mi ha? ;-0000h, stopixstories not breaking newseum;).........<more)... ......;-0000
nuff said

Chicago, IL

#2 Jul 3, 2012
WTF? Life doesn't begin at fertilization?
Now that would be something. Just when does life begin if not then!
June 35th 2012

Carol Stream, IL

#3 Jul 3, 2012
nuff said wrote:
WTF? Life doesn't begin at fertilization?
Now that would be something. Just when does life begin if not then!
lifee was Yes-tur day...2day just ;-0000h, 3morrow starting with June/lier..........more)...... ..;-000 and Robot learning how to Julyin Fourtheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#4 Jul 3, 2012
June 35th 2012 wrote:
Robottea! yee joke with mi ha? ;-0000h, stopixstories not breaking newseum;).........<more)... ......;-0000
June 35th 2012 wrote:
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lifee was Yes-tur day...2day just ;-0000h, 3morrow starting with June/lier..........more)...... ..;-000 and Robot learning how to Julyin Fourtheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
the view from the left wing

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#5 Jul 3, 2012
nuff said wrote:
WTF? Life doesn't begin at fertilization?
Now that would be something. Just when does life begin if not then!
for him, think "pollination".

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#6 Jul 3, 2012
New Borns should be allowed to divorce their mother and submit to adoption.
Call this a grandparent privilege.
Osama Obama

Greencastle, PA

#7 Jul 3, 2012
To bad we can't kill the parents and let the kids live.
June 35th 2012

Carol Stream, IL

#8 Jul 3, 2012
carey529 wrote:
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the view from the left wing
Bmore from left n Bless is frum right!!! Carrey511. U think Buffeelow wing or Eagle wings;-0000h wanna order somethink pizza for the 4th! wwww.papajohn.com/supremecourtXtrameantball

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Abort Them

Marion, IL

#10 Jul 3, 2012
Listen up!
It is not a baby, it is only tissue until it is born and maybe not even until it is 2 years old because it isn't self aware.
Roe vs Wade is the law, don't like it too bad!
All this is, is a bunch of Repulsivecans trying to dictate to women what to do with thier own body and thier evilness at controlling women.
I hope when President Obama gets re-elected he changes the Constitution so he can keep running forever, he won't let the damn Rethuglicans ruin this country.
I hope he rounds them all up and finally gets rid of the problem once and for all.
Evil Rethuglicans only want to hurt the poor, kill the old people and make women be slaves to them.

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#11 Jul 4, 2012
Abort Them wrote:
Listen up!
It is not a baby, it is only tissue until it is born and maybe not even until it is 2 years old because it isn't self aware.
Roe vs Wade is the law, don't like it too bad!
All this is, is a bunch of Repulsivecans trying to dictate to women what to do with thier own body and thier evilness at controlling women.
I hope when President Obama gets re-elected he changes the Constitution so he can keep running forever, he won't let the damn Rethuglicans ruin this country.
I hope he rounds them all up and finally gets rid of the problem once and for all.
Evil Rethuglicans only want to hurt the poor, kill the old people and make women be slaves to them.
thousands of babies are murdered every day...and -ssholes like you live.
goose

Chicago, IL

#12 Jul 4, 2012
Only tissue until maybe 2 years old??
WTF? Life doesn't begin at fertilization?
Now that would be something. Just when does life begin if not then!
Abort Them wrote:
Listen up!
It is not a baby, it is only tissue until it is born and maybe not even until it is 2 years old because it isn't self aware.
Roe vs Wade is the law, don't like it too bad!
All this is, is a bunch of Repulsivecans trying to dictate to women what to do with thier own body and thier evilness at controlling women.
I hope when President Obama gets re-elected he changes the Constitution so he can keep running forever, he won't let the damn Rethuglicans ruin this country.
I hope he rounds them all up and finally gets rid of the problem once and for all.
Evil Rethuglicans only want to hurt the poor, kill the old people and make women be slaves to them.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#13 Jul 4, 2012
goose wrote:
Only tissue until maybe 2 years old??
WTF? Life doesn't begin at fertilization?
Now that would be something. Just when does life begin if not then!
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The wording is tricky here. Of course an individual life begins at conception (the sperm and egg were alive beforehand, so life itself begins *before* conception).

However, they are talking about "personhood" here. This is where it gets tricky. If "personhood" begins at conception, then the roughly 30% of all pregnancies that end in miscarriage would have to be policed, and IVF, which disposes of thousands of embryos each year, would be illegal, and on and on.

This was a very invasive law. Pregnant women don't need government invading their privacy and keeping track of their pregnancies. This is just as extreme as China's one-child policy, and is not acceptable for a free country.
Bringmedinner

San Jose, CA

#14 Jul 4, 2012
The Ohioan female inclination to litter their spiritual gutters with aborted human beings for convenience is not the only deciding factor in their general rejection of opportunity for redemption. The short, squat, lookalike citizens can also thank their depressive natures on the obvious fact they all share the same British coal mining community great-great-grandmothers, trading their human characters for convenience store mentalities.

SIR LANCELOT

“I just hate stupid people”

Since: Apr 07

DEEP SOUTHERN ILLINOIS

#15 Jul 4, 2012
Abort Them wrote:
Listen up!
It is not a baby, it is only tissue until it is born and maybe not even until it is 2 years old because it isn't self aware.
Roe vs Wade is the law, don't like it too bad!
All this is, is a bunch of Repulsivecans trying to dictate to women what to do with thier own body and thier evilness at controlling women.
I hope when President Obama gets re-elected he changes the Constitution so he can keep running forever, he won't let the damn Rethuglicans ruin this country.
I hope he rounds them all up and finally gets rid of the problem once and for all.
Evil Rethuglicans only want to hurt the poor, kill the old people and make women be slaves to them.
YOU are exactly the reason why the Democrat Party today has no soul.
Listen to yourself and read your own words of how truly crazy and warped you liberals are. It is a baby not tissue you useless piece of sh*t.
Evil? we are evil when we are the ones who stand up for the unborn that Dr. Goebbels Democrats like you have absolutely no inkling of compassion for?
If this country is that coldhearted to re-elect a tyrant evil moron like Obama and ever put liberals like you in charge again this year then we deserve god almighty to punish this nation with a non-stop wave of natural disasters and economic collapse the world has ever seen.
people like you don't only need to be defeated at the box but if nessesary in the damn street.
If there was ever any doubt that i had that liberals were just people with a different view you just changed that forever.
Listen up

Menard, TX

#16 Jul 4, 2012
Abort Them wrote:
Listen up!
It is not a baby, it is only tissue until it is born and maybe not even until it is 2 years old because it isn't self aware.
Roe vs Wade is the law, don't like it too bad!
All this is, is a bunch of Repulsivecans trying to dictate to women what to do with thier own body and thier evilness at controlling women.
I hope when President Obama gets re-elected he changes the Constitution so he can keep running forever, he won't let the damn Rethuglicans ruin this country.
I hope he rounds them all up and finally gets rid of the problem once and for all.
Evil Rethuglicans only want to hurt the poor, kill the old people and make women be slaves to them.
Listen up!
It is not a person, it is only tissue after it is 72 years old and maybe not even after it is 62 years old because it isn't 'productive'... Evil Rethuglicans only want to hurt the poor, make women have unwanted children, kill the old people and make women be slaves to them.
Robert

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#17 Jul 5, 2012
Listen up wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen up!
It is not a person, it is only tissue after it is 72 years old and maybe not even after it is 62 years old because it isn't 'productive'... Evil Rethuglicans only want to hurt the poor, make women have unwanted children, kill the old people and make women be slaves to them.
You people are nuts, a cell so small I probably can't even see it is not a person any more than a mole on my ass is. I don't want your religion in my constitution.

You are welcome to treat your tissue anyway you want, if you want to treat it as a person that is fine with me just leave other peoples tissue alone.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#18 Jul 5, 2012
nuff said wrote:
WTF? Life doesn't begin at fertilization?
Now that would be something. Just when does life begin if not then!
How about when it's no longer a "parasite" to its parental host.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#19 Jul 5, 2012
Robert wrote:
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You people are nuts, a cell so small I probably can't even see it is not a person any more than a mole on my ass is. I don't want your religion in my constitution.
You are welcome to treat your tissue anyway you want, if you want to treat it as a person that is fine with me just leave other peoples tissue alone.
Exactly. Every day millions of women have spontaneous miscarriages they aren't even aware of. They didn't even know they were pregnant because the fertilized cell did not implant properly or wasn't viable.

It's biology, people. It's not a "miracle", it's just simply biology. If every raving lunatic who is against abortion would step up and adopt these unplanned children we wouldn't have a problem. But these are the same people who throw a fit when a woman gets welfare to take care of her kids, yet at the same time if she decided to have an abortion she'd catch hell for that, too.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#20 Jul 5, 2012
SIR LANCELOT wrote:
<quoted text>YOU are exactly the reason why the Democrat Party today has no soul.
Listen to yourself and read your own words of how truly crazy and warped you liberals are. It is a baby not tissue you useless piece of sh*t.
Evil? we are evil when we are the ones who stand up for the unborn that Dr. Goebbels Democrats like you have absolutely no inkling of compassion for?
If this country is that coldhearted to re-elect a tyrant evil moron like Obama and ever put liberals like you in charge again this year then we deserve god almighty to punish this nation with a non-stop wave of natural disasters and economic collapse the world has ever seen.
people like you don't only need to be defeated at the box but if nessesary in the damn street.
If there was ever any doubt that i had that liberals were just people with a different view you just changed that forever.
Is YOUR name on the list to adopt the next unwanted baby? How many unwanted children have YOU signed up for?

It's not that people have no soul; I think it's that some have more common sense than others. I think some people know how to mind their own damn business and not try to control and restrict and dominate others, especially when it comes to extremely personal issues that involve another person's body. Some people want smaller government and THAT means keeping it out of our personal lives. Some people realize that forcing someone to become a parent doesn't necessarily make them a good parent or able to provide for a child they never intended to have. Some people recognize that unwanted pregancy is a fact of life and the decision to continue or end it should rest solely with that woman and her doctor. The government has absolutely NO business inside anyone's body.
Bringmedinner

San Jose, CA

#21 Jul 5, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
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Is YOUR name on the list to adopt the next unwanted baby? How many unwanted children have YOU signed up for?
It's not that people have no soul; I think it's that some have more common sense than others. I think some people know how to mind their own damn business and not try to control and restrict and dominate others, especially when it comes to extremely personal issues that involve another person's body. Some people want smaller government and THAT means keeping it out of our personal lives. Some people realize that forcing someone to become a parent doesn't necessarily make them a good parent or able to provide for a child they never intended to have. Some people recognize that unwanted pregancy is a fact of life and the decision to continue or end it should rest solely with that woman and her doctor. The government has absolutely NO business inside anyone's body.
The troubling thing about people with no souls is they don't have the slightest perception, that they ever had one. They'd rather have the very concept eliminated from human discourse.

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