Pence to visit Centerville, Henry County today

There are 18 comments on the Palladium-Item story from Oct 9, 2013, titled Pence to visit Centerville, Henry County today. In it, Palladium-Item reports that:

Gov. Mike Pence is visiting east-central Indiana on Wednesday with stops planned in Henry and Wayne counties.

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#1 Oct 9, 2013
Take the bastard to Randy Neal's with the rest of the junk.
pedro martinez

Concord, CA

#2 Oct 9, 2013
Reggie44 wrote:
Take the bastard to Randy Neal's with the rest of the junk.
Exactly
He is a piece of shit in the back pocket of the private prison lobby
Hoosier

New Castle, IN

#3 Oct 9, 2013
"He is a piece of shit in the back pocket of the private prison lobby"

So what exactly do you have against private prisons?
anon

New Castle, IN

#4 Oct 9, 2013
Hoosier wrote:
"He is a piece of shit in the back pocket of the private prison lobby"
So what exactly do you have against private prisons?
How about the fact that "private" means "profit". I have a problem with prisons making money from housing inmates. There is an incentive to incarcerate people for petty crimes just to turn a profit. That is why Pence is creating these laws where more crimes are felonious and inmates now must serve 85% of their time. It is all about money, and it is very detrimental to our society. When we turn petty crimes like marijuana possession into felonies, we are hurting the economy and society as a whole. These people can't find jobs so they draw welfare. Their kids suffer from a life of poverty. They turn into criminals themselves. It creates a vicious circle, and all in the name of "profit". So scumbags like Pence can pad their pockets while the restvof is suffer.
anon

New Castle, IN

#5 Oct 9, 2013
*rest of us suffer
Hoosier

New Castle, IN

#6 Oct 10, 2013
anon wrote:
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How about the fact that "private" means "profit". I have a problem with prisons making money from housing inmates. There is an incentive to incarcerate people for petty crimes just to turn a profit. That is why Pence is creating these laws where more crimes are felonious and inmates now must serve 85% of their time. It is all about money, and it is very detrimental to our society. When we turn petty crimes like marijuana possession into felonies, we are hurting the economy and society as a whole. These people can't find jobs so they draw welfare. Their kids suffer from a life of poverty. They turn into criminals themselves. It creates a vicious circle, and all in the name of "profit". So scumbags like Pence can pad their pockets while the restvof is suffer.
Wasn't the prison closed prior to becoming private because the state had no money to run it? So no jobs are better than having a private prison?

So you think the judges are in cahoots with private prison corporations? They are the ones who sentence the offenders?

Doesn't the county make money, or a least used to, housing out of town prisoners? I am unsure they still do because of space. So is it OK for the county to make money doing so but not private prisons?

I think the legislature makes laws not the governor, maybe your wrath is directed incorrectly?

Simplest way to not allow counties or prisons not to make money housing prisoners - don't break the law
pedro martinez

Concord, CA

#7 Oct 10, 2013
Hoosier wrote:
<quoted text>Wasn't the prison closed prior to becoming private because the state had no money to run it? So no jobs are better than having a private prison?

So you think the judges are in cahoots with private prison corporations? They are the ones who sentence the offenders?

Doesn't the county make money, or a least used to, housing out of town prisoners? I am unsure they still do because of space. So is it OK for the county to make money doing so but not private prisons?

I think the legislature makes laws not the governor, maybe your wrath is directed incorrectly?

Simplest way to not allow counties or prisons not to make money housing prisoners - don't break the law
You are close , but no cigar. One of Pence's first acts as Gov. was to make mandatory jail time for small amount if pot. This was directly related to the contract the state has with the private prison group that mandates occupancy rates. While other states are allowing pot smoking, your corrupt Gov. is taking Indiana in a completely different direction. I'm so glad I left the shot hole that is Indiana years ago!
Truth

Hartford City, IN

#8 Oct 10, 2013
Pence is the best! He will do wonders for our state. All you complaining have no clue.
anon

New Castle, IN

#9 Oct 10, 2013
"Indiana is eighth on the list of states where GEO does its spending, as it's sunk more than $60,000 into state elections there. It specifically contributed $12,500 to the 2012 Pence campaign, which doesn't seem like much without context. That contribution made GEO one of Pence's top 30 corporate contributors, ranking in front of US Steel Corp, Caterpillar, and Koch Industries."

"Business has been quite good for GEO in Indiana. In 2005, they signed a contract to operate a prison in New Castle. That first contract reads like many that GEO signs with its depraved partners. Indiana guaranteed a prison population roughly 90% of capacity. Or, as the state's excited press release put it:
During the first year of operation, the 2,416-bed prison is expected to house approximately 1,068 security level 1-4 adult male inmates for the Indiana Department of Correction and generate approximately $12.8 million. Under the terms of the contract, GEO will be paid for a guaranteed average daily population of 961 inmates, or 90 per cent of the initial contract capacity, following a ramp-up period of approximately four weeks."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/01/1198... #

"There are approximately 2 million inmates in state, federal and private prisons throughout the country. According to California Prison Focus,“no other society in human history has imprisoned so many of its own citizens.” The figures show that the United States has locked up more people than any other country: a half million more than China, which has a population five times greater than the U.S. Statistics reveal that the United States holds 25% of the world’s prison population, but only 5% of the world’s people. From less than 300,000 inmates in 1972, the jail population grew to 2 million by the year 2000. In 1990 it was one million. Ten years ago there were only five private prisons in the country, with a population of 2,000 inmates; now, there are 100, with 62,000 inmates. It is expected that by the coming decade, the number will hit 360,000, according to reports."

"“The private contracting of prisoners for work fosters incentives to lock people up. Prisons depend on this income. Corporate stockholders who make money off prisoners’ work lobby for longer sentences, in order to expand their workforce. The system feeds itself,” says a study by the Progressive Labor Party, which accuses the prison industry of being “an imitation of Nazi Germany with respect to forced slave labor and concentration camps.”

The prison industry complex is one of the fastest-growing industries in the United States and its investors are on Wall Street.“This multimillion-dollar industry has its own trade exhibitions, conventions, websites, and mail-order/Internet catalogs. It also has direct advertising campaigns, architecture companies, construction companies, investment houses on Wall Street, plumbing supply companies, food supply companies, armed security, and padded cells in a large variety of colors.”"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-indus...
anon

New Castle, IN

#10 Oct 10, 2013
Hoosier wrote:
<quoted text>
Wasn't the prison closed prior to becoming private because the state had no money to run it? So no jobs are better than having a private prison?
So you think the judges are in cahoots with private prison corporations? They are the ones who sentence the offenders?
Doesn't the county make money, or a least used to, housing out of town prisoners? I am unsure they still do because of space. So is it OK for the county to make money doing so but not private prisons?
I think the legislature makes laws not the governor, maybe your wrath is directed incorrectly?
Simplest way to not allow counties or prisons not to make money housing prisoners - don't break the law
Gee, it would be so off base to believe that judges are receiving kickbacks for sentencing people to prison. Because, you know, that kinds of stuff never happens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_sc...

The issue is that Pence is making it easier to break the law. I have a HUGE problem with the way he is attacking marijuana users. Like the previous poster mentioned, other states are legalizing it. We are taking great leaps backwards and increasing the penalties for a victimless crime that the majority of the population indulges in. And he does so because he promised GEO a 90% occupancy rate.

What better way to fulfill this promise than locking up potheads? These are not violent offenders so they are easier to house. They are less bothersome. They are ideal prisoners.

People lose their ability to secure decent jobs when they have a felony on their record. In some cases, they lose their financial aid for college. They can no longer own a gun. The list goes on and on.

The fact is: Possessing a small amount of marijuana should not ruin your entire life. Making possession of marijuana a felony does just that. It is proof that Pence does not care about the citizen's of Indiana, only about his pocketbook.
justiceforme

Pierceton, IN

#11 Oct 10, 2013
Pennsylvania Judge Gets 'Life Sentence' For Prison Kickback Scheme
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Former Luzerne County (Pennsylvania) Judge Mark Ciavarella has been spending his time doing odd jobs for a car towing service while awaiting sentencing since being found guilty on felony corruption charges. His car towing days are over, and the 61-year-old judge is heading to federal prison for 28 years — this could amount to a life sentence.

His sentence brings to closure a dark time in the history of the city of Wilkes-Barre, PA, which is in Luzerne County. He was found guilty in February of racketeering for taking a $1 million kickback from the builder of for-profit prisons for juveniles. Ciavarella who left the bench over two years ago after he and another judge, Michael Conahan, were accused of sentencing youngsters to prisons they had a hand in building. Prosecutors alleged that Conahan, who pleaded guilty last year and is awaiting sentencing, and Ciavarella received kick-backs from the private company that built and maintained the new youth detention facility that replaced the older county-run center.

Ciavarella, who presided over juvenile court, sent kids to juvenile detention for crimes such as possession of drug paraphernalia, stealing a jar of nutmeg and posting web page spoofs about an assistant principal (3 months of hard time). Some of those sentenced were as young as 10 years old. A mother of one of those sentenced by judge Caivarella lashed out at him after the guilty verdict. Sandy Fonzo’s son, Edward, was a promising young athlete in high school when at the age of 17 he found himself in front of judge Caivarella for possession of drug paraphernalia. With no prior convictions, the judge sentenced Edward to months in private prisons and a wilderness camp…he missed his entire senior year in high school. Edward never recovered from the experience according to his mother and in June 2010 he took his own life at the age of 23.

Ciavarella acknowledged in a recent interview with a Wilkes-Barre investigative reporter (Joe Holden of WBRE) that he made mistakes relating to not filing accurate tax returns but that he never sentenced a child to prison when it was not warranted. Ciavarella, who testified in his own defense at trial, said as much to the jury….and the jury did not buy it.

Ciavarella is married and has three grown children, additional victims of his crimes. However, I feel for the victims whose lives were forever changed by the misguided sentences handed out by judge Ciavarella. This is a sad day for the justice system but it is refreshing to see the right person going to jail this time.
Hoosier

New Castle, IN

#12 Oct 10, 2013
pedro martinez wrote:
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You are close , but no cigar. One of Pence's first acts as Gov. was to make mandatory jail time for small amount if pot. This was directly related to the contract the state has with the private prison group that mandates occupancy rates. While other states are allowing pot smoking, your corrupt Gov. is taking Indiana in a completely different direction. I'm so glad I left the shot hole that is Indiana years ago!
1)Pence signed HB 1006 - ie the legislature writes the bills, the gov can sign or reject -
2)Please provide documentation of your claim 'This was directly related to the contract the state has with the private prison group that mandates occupancy rates."
3)According to this penalties were actually reduced from the origional bill per Pence's direction
http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2013/04/mariju...
pedro martinez

Euless, TX

#13 Oct 10, 2013
Hoosier wrote:
<quoted text>1)Pence signed HB 1006 - ie the legislature writes the bills, the gov can sign or reject -
2)Please provide documentation of your claim 'This was directly related to the contract the state has with the private prison group that mandates occupancy rates."
3)According to this penalties were actually reduced from the origional bill per Pence's direction
http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2013/04/mariju...
It will be my pleasure, sit tight, Child, sit tight!
Lil d-a-d-d-y

Berne, IN

#14 Oct 10, 2013
Very smart justiceforme and anon! Very interesting !
pedro martinez

Euless, TX

#15 Oct 10, 2013
Here you go child! Read it and weep...http://www.hemp.org/new s/category/cannabis/mike-pence
justiceforme

Pierceton, IN

#16 Oct 11, 2013
Hoosier wrote:
<quoted text>
1)Pence signed HB 1006 - ie the legislature writes the bills, the gov can sign or reject -
2)Please provide documentation of your claim 'This was directly related to the contract the state has with the private prison group that mandates occupancy rates."
3)According to this penalties were actually reduced from the origional bill per Pence's direction
http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2013/04/mariju...
Indiana: Governor To Sign Bill Increasing Penalties For Marijuana

Source: Hemp News

With the rest of the United States moving toward relaxing the marijuana laws, Indiana seems to be bravely marching into the past. The Hoosier State's penalties for marijuana are getting tougher after Gov. Mike Pence requested -- and got -- stricter laws for low-level cannabis offenders.

The bill, HB 1006, still has at least one committee hearing, then it goes to the full Senate for a vote, Skywolf Neal Smith of Indiana NORML told Hemp News on Wednesday. It could be changed in committee or on the Senate floor; if there are significant changes, it will have to go back through the House for approval of the Senate changes, Smith said.
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The increased penalties come as part of an overhaul of Indiana's criminal sentencing laws; possession of anything over about one-third of an ounce of marijuana is now a felony in Indiana. Pence said last week that he believed the bill would "send a message that the state is "tough on drug dealers."
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When GEO built a 2,416-bed prison in New Castle, Indiana, the state signed a contract guaranteeing the for-profit prison company that 90 percent of the beds would stay filled.
Lil d-a-d-d-y

Berne, IN

#17 Oct 11, 2013
Makes ya kinda sick, to think we create laws or pass unjust punishment to make money is horrible!
anon

New Castle, IN

#18 Oct 12, 2013
Lil d-a-d-d-y wrote:
Makes ya kinda sick, to think we create laws or pass unjust punishment to make money is horrible!
Indiana is a horribly unjust state that is rife with corruption. If you can stomach it, read some of the stories related to the Child Protection Services corruption in Indiana. After Pence's overhaul of the system, removal rate from the home actually rose 10%, while the rest of the country's rates of removal are dropping! Yet another way Pence is ruining lives.

http://fightcps.com/cps/countries/united-stat...

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