Video: Obama: Could Trayvon Martin "have stood his ground?"

Jul 19, 2013 Full story: CBS News 170

"If Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk?" President Obama asked Friday, suggesting policymakers may want to revisit some laws and law enforcement practices that deal with firearms and self-defense.

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“I just hate stupid people”

Since: Apr 07

DEEP SOUTHERN ILLINOIS

#1 Jul 19, 2013
Obama, stirring the racial hatred blacks have against whites even more.

Notice not a word from him about the violent hate crimes blacks are committing against whites, hispanics and others over the Zimmerman verdict.

I started a thread just so we can keep up with the ones the MSM doesn't report on.

http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TCOFFK...
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#3 Jul 19, 2013
Even though I think Zimmerman was guilty as hell,
I also believe that no jury could have found
him guilty. Only two people knew what happened
that night and one is dead and gone. There were
two sides to the story and one side is missing.
No witnesses. No video. No provable motive.
Just too much room for reasonable doubt.
the ripper

Baltimore, MD

#5 Jul 19, 2013
Gary. Zimmerman did not walk up to Martin and shoot . There was a fight with Martin on top of Zimmerman and by all accounts Martin provoked the assault. That really isn't called reasonable doubt, that's called self defense as the one juror herself could see in the evidence and told cnn.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#6 Jul 19, 2013
the ripper wrote:
Gary. Zimmerman did not walk up to Martin and shoot . There was a fight with Martin on top of Zimmerman and by all accounts Martin provoked the assault. That really isn't called reasonable doubt, that's called self defense as the one juror herself could see in the evidence and told cnn.
By all accounts? What accounts?

Who else was there? Who witnessed the encounter?

How do you know that Zimmer didn't walk to Martin and shoot?
DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#7 Jul 19, 2013
Trayvon could have stood his ground as a creepy looking dude cornered him in the dark alley; however, SYG law was designed for White gun owners. If Trayvon was the shooter, White Jury would throw the book at the Negro; no doubt!
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#8 Jul 19, 2013
the ripper wrote:
Gary. Zimmerman did not walk up to Martin and shoot .
You forgot the interim part of the equation = Creepy Zimmerman creeped after Mr, Martin, followed Mr. Martin and stalked Mr. Martin - and he was asked not to.

The end result - Zimmerman shot Mr. Martin.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#9 Jul 19, 2013
the ripper wrote:
called reasonable doubt,.
I would humbly suggest that there is more than a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth - after all there is only one side who is alive to tell what really happened.

But there is no reasonable doubt that Zimmerman followed Mr. Martin with a gun and shot Mr. Martin.
DangerousRiteWin gCrusader

Atlanta, GA

#10 Jul 19, 2013
the ripper wrote:
Gary. Zimmerman did not walk up to Martin and shoot . There was a fight with Martin on top of Zimmerman and by all accounts Martin provoked the assault. That really isn't called reasonable doubt, that's called self defense as the one juror herself could see in the evidence and told cnn.
You lie!

....By George's account?
. The only witness was Ms. Jeantel; over the phone, she heard a bump followed by Trayvon saying to Captain Z: "Get-off, get-off...."

. Not unlike those cops in the case of Jeffrey Dahmer; supremacists tend to assume Negroes are liars and automatically reject their statements and assume that White perpetrators are trustworthy....
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#11 Jul 19, 2013
SIR LANCELOT wrote:
Obama, stirring the racial hatred blacks have against whites even more.
The only "stirring" dear friend is the racial hatred some of you folks who have against anyone with any education, any color, any intelligence and who can listen to a speech and think for themselves.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#12 Jul 19, 2013
You searched your soul, Mr. President, and this what you came up with?
Well, yes, Trayvon Martin cold have stood his ground. It's the law, you see.

But, I think this question is more than a tad disingenuous. The fact is, that Trayvon would be alive today if he stood his ground instead of attack George.
radiofreeamerica

Tarpon Springs, FL

#13 Jul 19, 2013
Dr.Vincent Di Maio,an expert forensic pathologist,gave powerful testimony that Trayvon Martin had to be on top of George Zimmerman-and beating on his head- when Zimmerman shot Martin.
the ripper

Baltimore, MD

#14 Jul 19, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
The only "stirring" dear friend is the racial hatred some of you folks who have against anyone with any education, any color, any intelligence and who can listen to a speech and think for themselves.


Hello...I for one have no problem with the presidents speach, I thought it was great and I believe will be well received
. In some ways we don't see I to I, but I do see how you must feel (emotion). I dearly wish you the best.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#15 Jul 19, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
I would humbly suggest that there is more than a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth - after all there is only one side who is alive to tell what really happened.
But there is no reasonable doubt that Zimmerman followed Mr. Martin with a gun and shot Mr. Martin.
The problem is that in the U.S. the accused cannot be
forced to testify against himself in a court of law,
otherwise Zimmer could be asked to undergo a lie detector
test. If he refused, then it would count against his
credibility. If he failed then it would be fairly serious.

But he can't be forced to take a lie detector test or to
take the stand.

We will never know what happened. We know what Zimmer has
said, but with no cross examination it's meaningless.
Cat74

Barrington, IL

#16 Jul 19, 2013
Zimmerman voluntarily took a lie detector test soon after the shooting, and passed. The first police officer on the scene testified he thought Zimmerman told the truth. Several of the jurors told how they felt Trayvon started the fight, and that was confirmed by Trayvon's lady love who said Trayvon threw the first punch. Zimmerman was exonerated, and the DOJ can hem haw all they want, but in the end they know the truth, and won't do a dman thing.
the ripper

Baltimore, MD

#18 Jul 19, 2013
Anthony Weiner wrote:
Gotta move on folks...
NOT GUILTY


If only the real weinner was as astute as you are. But I do agree, case closed and not guilty.
bellowing niceties

Greeley, CO

#19 Jul 19, 2013
Here's Obama's little speech today, the condensed version:



(Pitchforks, torches and a map to Zimmerman's home to be distributed at the White House rear entrance later today.)

If anything happens to Zim, it'll be Obama's fault.
i see oj

Virginia Beach, VA

#20 Jul 19, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know that Zimmer didn't walk to Martin and shoot?
Umm, witness testimony that Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him right before the shot was fired?

Photographic evidence and witness testimony of the injuries sustained by Zimmerman?

All presented during the trial.....you should have watched it!

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#21 Jul 19, 2013
This is what is great about Obama, he brings everyone together. Well OK, not the Whites or Hispanics, but everyone else. He has learned the lessons of Wright and Sharpton well.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#22 Jul 19, 2013
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
We will never know what happened. We know what Zimmer has
said, but with no cross examination it's meaningless.
Zimmerman will need to get out his begging bowl again and we can only hope he agrees to be interviewed - by the highest bidder.

I am not holding my breath for his interview but I would like to think he will - one day - tell us the truth.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#23 Jul 19, 2013
RustyS wrote:
Well OK, not the Whites or Hispanics,
I feel optimistic - as President Obama said - that the younger generation is smarter than our generation and yours. My (white)children - and their friends - don't have the same inferiority complex that many of you white folks have.

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