'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

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WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#280769 Jun 4, 2012
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News


The Empire Strikes Back: Attack of the Drones
By John W. Whitehead (Contd.)

As Congressmen Edward Markey and Joe Barton pointed out in a recent letter to the FAA:

[S]tate and local governments, businesses, and private individuals are increasingly using unmanned aircraft in the U.S., including deployments for law enforcement operations. As technology advances and cost decreases—drones are already orders of magnitude less expensive to purchase and operate than piloted aircraft—the market for federal, state, and local government and commercial drones rapidly grows.

Many drones are designed to carry surveillance equipment, including video cameras, infrared thermal imagers, radar, and wireless network “sniffers.” The surveillance power of drones is amplified when the information from onboard sensors is used in conjunction with facial recognition, behavior analysis, license plate recognition, or any other system that can identify and track individuals as they go about their daily lives.

While drones will undoubtedly be put to a host of legitimate uses, such as helping to spot wildfires, monitoring illegal border crossings, and carrying out search-and-rescue missions, their “beneficence” is a double-edged sword. Indeed, in the name of efficiency and cost-effectiveness, law enforcement agencies will find a whole host of clever and innovative ways to use drones to invade our daily lives, not the least of which will be traffic enforcement and crowd control.

In fact, the drones will be outfitted with crowd control weapons. Vanguard Defense Industries has confirmed that its Shadowhawk drone, which is already being sold to law enforcement agencies throughout the country, will be outfitted with lethal weapons, including a grenade launcher or a shotgun, and weapons of compliance, such as tear gas and rubber buckshot. Such aerial police weapons send a clear and chilling message to those attempting to exercise their First Amendment rights by taking to the streets and protesting government policies—the message: stay home.

American scientists have created blueprints for nuclear powered drones which would increase air time from days to months. Potential problems are dire, such as a crashed drone becoming a dirty bomb or a source of nuclear propulsion for any terrorist groups that get their hands on it. However, while the lethal capabilities of these drones are troubling, especially when one factors in the possibility of them getting into the wrong hands or malfunctioning, the more pressing concern has to do with the drones’ surveillance capabilities.

With the help of nanotechnology, scientists have been able to create ever-smaller drones that mimic the behavior of birds and insects and are almost undetectable. Despite their diminutive size, these drones are capable of capturing and relaying vast amounts of data and high-definition video footage. It’s inevitable that as more local police agencies acquire these spy flies, their surveillance efforts will expand to include not only those suspected of criminal activity but anyone within range of the cameras. In such a surveillance state, we shall all be treated as suspects.

There are many constitutional concerns presented by drones recording Americans’ daily activities, with the most obvious being what it means for the Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures by government agents. While it will certainly give rise to a whole new dialogue about where to draw the line when it comes to the government’s ability to monitor one’s public versus private lives, the courts have been notorious for their inability to keep pace with rapid advances in technology and its impact on our freedoms.


Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#280770 Jun 4, 2012
Unfortunately, it is too late to do anything about drones coming home to roost. Indeed, as drone technology expert Peter W. Singer recognizes in remarks to the New York Times,“the debate over drones is like debating the merits of computers in 1979: They are here to stay, and the boom has barely begun.‘We are at the Wright Brothers Flier stage of this,’ he said.” The point is that with 56 government agencies now authorized to use drones, including 22 law enforcement agencies and 24 universities, the drones are not going away. Included among the institutions authorized to fly drones are police departments in Arkansas, Utah and Florida as well as Virginia Tech and the University of North Dakota. The University of North Dakota even has a degree program in unmanned vehicle flight with 78 majors.

As with just about every freedom-leeching, technology-driven government policy inflicted on us by Congress and the White House in recent years, from whole-body scanners in airports to RFID chips in our passports and drivers licenses, the mass introduction of drones into domestic airspace has one main goal: to empower the corporate state by controlling the populace and enriching the military industrial complex. In the meantime, all you can do is keep your eyes on the skies. As Singer noted,“There’s no stopping this technology. Anybody who thinks they can put this genie back in the box—that’s silliness.”

John W. Whitehead is an attorney and author who has written, debated and practiced widely in the area of constitutional law and human rights. Whitehead’s aggressive, pioneering approach to civil liberties has earned him numerous accolades and accomplishments, including the Hungarian Medal of Freedom.

This article was first published at The Rutherford Institute

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#280771 Jun 4, 2012
9/11 A Special day for Terrorists- Strange Events and oddities- Part- 84

9/11 - A "knife-like weapon" are found on two different Delta planes and another weapon is found on an undisclosed plane in which officials think that these weapons may have been planted there by accomplices working in secure areas of airports making it look like an "inside job".
"US officials are compiling what one called "growing" evidence that other hijackings may have been planned for September 11. Officials from both the government and the airline industry tell TIME Magazine that a knife-like weapon was found on each of two separate Delta Airlines aircraft later that day, although neither plane took off due to the nationwide grounding after the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks on hijacked United and American airlines planes.

Government sources would not describe in detail the nature of the weapons found on the Delta flights last week, but one official disclosed that another weapon was discovered on at least on other aircraft, owned by a fourth airline. The government official refused to name that carrier.

Investigators are not yet certain how these weapons came to be on board the aircraft. But they increasingly believe that the weapons may have been prepositioned by accomplices for use by others. As one US official told TIME, "These look like inside jobs."

The new evidence raises the worrisome possibility that the hijackers may have had accomplices deep within the 'secure' areas of airports — that may include the shops and restaurants in the terminal behind the metal detectors, or amongst the thousands of people who work in catering, fueling or cleaning aircraft; or anyone who might have access to the airplane before takeoff." - Time (09/22/01)

Gwinn, MI

#280772 Jun 4, 2012
Note the simultaneous occurrences of these major events:

1) The Korean War, proving communists were bent on world conquest.

2) The Congress for Cultural Freedom, along with other black ops of the CIA and other intelligence agencies, controlling the information flow to the world.

3) And McCarthyism silencing those with the credentials and authority to tell the people anything different.

These mutually supporting events made their debut in the first half of 1950 and within two months of the finalization of NSC-68, the master plan for the Cold War.[5]

None of this was accidental or incidental. It was all part of the Grand Strategies of managers of state to lock society within a belief system of enemies wanting to take over their governments.

While McCarthyism, painting any progressive person or philosophy as communist, was in full swing, it was political, social, and career suicide to be objective and intellectually balanced.

During those 40 years of suppression of dissenting opinion, the CIA paid compliant professors to write 25 to 30 fraudulent books a year. Right-wing think tanks were set up to produce thousands of books based on those original planted volumes.

Tens of thousands of CIA articles providing a base for those fraudulent books were planted in the media around the world.

For example, to control the world’s perceptions, 700 CIA articles were planted worldwide during the overthrow and assassination of Allende in Chile.

Reporters were provided news scoops in exchange for publication of fraudulent articles. Some of the leading columnists in the world, therefore, were planting this nonsense.

For over two generations social scientists have used, and are still using, those fraudulent books and articles as the foundation of their research. Such books have been cited by official textbooks for 50 years and will be in the future.

The intelligence agencies, corporate think tanks, and state departments of all powerful nations were busy writing the same distorted history. Intellectual figures and skillful writers throughout the Western world supported and coordinated building a framework of orientation to encase society within that belief system.

As the quotes above on the Congress for Cultural Freedom demonstrates, only academics and intellectuals on the fringe knew the difference and even they could only be very unsure of what was real and what was not.

Gwinn, MI

#280773 Jun 4, 2012
When it was learned the CIA had supported the printing of these thousands of books, sincere academics sued for the titles to be revealed. But the Supreme Court ruled this would expose CIA methods and endanger national security.[6]

The imperial nations of Europe also had to worry about the loss of their heartland by the vote. Post-WW II France and Italy were especially vulnerable to ballot box revolutions.

Massive CIA funds were only barely able to avert that loss. It required more than money. The partisans were the only effective political force left in Italy and many were communist.

Allied troops released Mafia leaders from Mussolini’s prisons, armed them, and placed them in charge of the cities as they reclaimed the Italian peninsula.[7]

Control of the Italian elections were still in question and, besides other methods of funding conservative Italian politicians, the CIA was deeply involved in the super-secret P2 lodge, the primary group trying to prevent that election disaster for the Western world’s managers of state.

The only way to obtain a seat of power in the Italian government was through that secret lodge. The risk of an overthrow by the vote was still high.

For further belief system protection, the Bologna railway bombing which killed 84 people and injured 150, and other fatal bombings in Italy were strategies of tension planned and carried out by the CIA-controlled Italian intelligence services and, right by the covert action training manuals that have since surfaced, blamed on the “left.”

The explosives from that bombing and others were traced to some of the 139 buried weapons and explosives caches for the CIA’s “Operation Gladio,” under which those bombings were carried out.

In Italy alone, the right wing terrorist bombings blamed on the left numbered in the hundreds, killing several hundred and injuring many more.[8] Run an Internet search for “Gladio, Ukraine” and you will learn these strategies of tension have been refined to take control of former provinces of the Soviet Union and other strategic parts of the world.

So far (2008) it has failed in Belarus, the Ukraine success was reversed in 15 months, and those externally supported regime-change battles seem to be failing in other former provinces.

Iraq is being shattered into three or more defenseless political entities at the cost of well over a million lives with no end yet in sight. The per capita killing ratios of Korea and Vietnam have already been exceeded.

Gwinn, MI

#280774 Jun 4, 2012
The purpose of strategies of tension worldwide, creating terrorist acts and blaming the left, was, of course, to distort what the so-called left, primarily labor leaders, stood for and deny them any wins in the elections.

In 1997-98, there were exposures of South Africa’s secret service using and planting Soviet weapons in its own strategy of tension to blame the massacres of blacks on the African National Congress.

Such framing of opponents is an old political trick. Planting counterfeit letters, documents, and weapons is standard black ops for intelligence services and the CIA’s Mighty Wurlitzer had this down to a science.

Those bombings and other violence blamed on the left within Europe and throughout the world were to provide a base for those planted articles.

In fact, both actual and staged covert violence had been, and still are, used worldwide by imperial centers of capital to control elections both on the periphery and within their centers of empire. Witness the theft of both the 2000 and the 2004 elections which is well understood by those struggling to get the word out but are totally ignored by the mainstream press. As serious Internet search will find that story. Use keywords from Theft of the Election and you will find dozens of serious researchers.

In dozens of CIA-staged attacks by supposed Communist Huks in the Philippines, the hamlets were rescued by General Magsasay. As planned, the general was popularized as a hero and became America’s elected Philippine puppet.[10]

Strategies of tension to lock society within a belief system” are standard operating procedures of most, if not all, power structures.

The famed march of the Black Shirts in Italy supposedly putting Mussolini in power was staged three days after Italy’s powerbrokers handed to him the reins of power. That showing of unrest was to consolidate power.

Germany’s famous Reichstag fire was a month after Hitler had been given power in a secret January meeting of German powerbrokers. Again the purpose was to consolidate power by gaining followers through creating the belief of an imminent threat to social tranquility and security.

In The Korean War was a Strategy of Tension Justifying the Cold War Slaughter of Millions we address how the Korean War was just such a strategy of tension staged to provide the loyalty base to support the expense and worldwide violence of the Cold War.

Gwinn, MI

#280775 Jun 4, 2012
Three tenets of monopoly capitalism are: pay the lowest possible price, charge all the market will bear, and give nothing to anybody, a great philosophy for powerbrokers with a monopoly on capital, technology, markets, and military might.

It takes no deep thought to realize these tenets of classical economic philosophy were implanted by an earlier power structure to maximize its claims to the wealth of others, that feudal residue in our philosophy, laws, and customs.

Landed aristocracy and financial aristocracy, through control of all positions of power in the Church and universities, had full control of what was taught. Those belief systems were philosophical tenets chosen for the protection of society’s power structure.

They were not philosophical tenets chosen by free thought to maximize the well-being of all within that society, let alone the welfare of the rest of the world’s citizens whose natural wealth and labors were confiscated to create the wealth of the imperial centers of capital.

The trumpeting of peace, freedom, justice, rights, and majority rule when in reality our society is massively unequal requires those Grand Strategies for controlling other people and their resources be kept secret (see From Plunder by Raids to Plunder by Trade for the plunder by trade story. My Eureka Moment and The simplicity of eliminating poverty and war will stun you explains unequal rights due to property rights law as applied to nature’s resources and technologies, denying others their rightful share). What is practiced is the total antithesis of what is preached.

“French Cocoa Party”

Since: Jan 08

Keynesian Fields

#280776 Jun 4, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
Put the bong, down, Frankly.

This is what you just got through posting?

“And now they look at Wisconsin, and they see America’s battleground between people who want to work together to solve problems, and people who want to divide and conquer — people who know that creative cooperation is working in America, and people who want constant conflict."

Obviously, it begs the question (that I just asked you).

Would you like me to ask it again?

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#280777 Jun 5, 2012
GN1 wrote:
That's stupid.. You know why oil prices are going up? because we keep buying oil from these other countries, and inflation, but you know what will make people happy? If we start drilling IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. "save the environment" they say. Were killing trees, they say, i look out my window and you know what i see? trees. That's why people Obama is refusing to drill in this country. And its stupid.

What ever you do, we do not stop you from doing. When we cannot stop you from interfering in OUR countries, how can we stop you to do whatever you want to do in YOUR countries?

But if Obama wants to get re-elected, he should continue with the war on terror….if he wants to “be extra sure” to get re-elected, he should start war on Iran!!

If he starts drilling in his own country “Oil Mafia” will turn against him and incite Jews and Zionists and that will be end of Obama.

I do not know if he is shrewd or stupid.
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#280778 Jun 5, 2012
rider wrote:
Schuylkill County business owner pleads guilty to $136 million ...
Aug 17, 2010 ... Fink and his business partner, Joseph W. Nagle of Deerfield Beach, Fla., were
indicted in November 2009 on 32 counts of fraud, conspiracy ...
http://articles.mcall.com/2010-08-17/news/mc-... - 37k -
when government gets too big someone is out there for the pickings.

Just look at the crows getting the opportunity to pick apart garbage bags.
John_Schuylkill County_Pa

Sunbury, PA

#280779 Jun 5, 2012
rider wrote:
<quoted text>with Universal health care you can get a new pair of eye glasses which you are very much in need of. In the case of premeditated, unavoidably public crimes such as assassination and false flag terror, the cover-up can be much more telling than the actual crime. Such events must have satisfactory resolutions and (at least somewhat) feasible cover stories. The goal is to create a sense of legitimacy and authority by scripting and reinforcing an “official story.”
The conspirators must also know that they can exert a certain amount of control and pressure over those who may investigate and report on the crime—the media, lawmakers, and courts. Organized conspirators are well aware of psychology and techniques to manipulate people’s minds into believing their deception. They are also likely aware of Hitler’s concept of the “big lie” and the general public’s extraordinary capacity for denial and avoidance. 4
The cover-up of 9/11 was already being constructed long before the actual attacks. It can be traced through thwarted investigations, warnings, and foreknowledge. The cover story and the necessary patsies were being tracked and/or arranged perhaps years in advance of 9/11.
There is plenty of fraud in medicare. I won't take advantage of Universal healthcare.

Don't you think Obamacare should be repealed?

Gwinn, MI

#280780 Jun 5, 2012
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>There is plenty of fraud in medicare. I won't take advantage of Universal healthcare.
Don't you think Obamacare should be repealed?
Did Romney and Santorum Profit From Medicare and Medicaid Fraud?
Jan 17, 2012 ... Since repeal of the Affordable Care Act is Job One on every Republican
candidate's to-do list, it's worth looking at their own relationships to the ...

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/did-romney-a... - 75k -

Gwinn, MI

#280781 Jun 5, 2012
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>There is plenty of fraud in medicare. I won't take advantage of Universal healthcare.
Don't you think Obamacare should be repealed?
Build the military because we all know there isn't any fraud in war. Give tax exempt status to religious and charitable org as there is no fraud in them. lmao! Subsidies to big oil because they are fraudless.

Gwinn, MI

#280782 Jun 5, 2012
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>There is plenty of fraud in medicare. I won't take advantage of Universal healthcare.
Don't you think Obamacare should be repealed?
bottom line/put the scum-bag white collar criminals away for life.

Gwinn, MI

#280783 Jun 5, 2012
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>when government gets too big someone is out there for the pickings.
Just look at the crows getting the opportunity to pick apart garbage bags.
The biggest fraud is rightwing ownership of the federal watchdogs.

Gwinn, MI

#280784 Jun 5, 2012
John_Schuylkill County_Pa wrote:
<quoted text>There is plenty of fraud in medicare. I won't take advantage of Universal healthcare.
Don't you think Obamacare should be repealed?
Who controls the media? the same ones that control the pentagon. The monopolys! Operation Mockingbird - Spartacus Educational
One of the most important journalists under the control of Operation Mockingbird
was Joseph Alsop, whose articles appeared in over 300 different newspapers.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmocki... - 213k -
Jaquire Nees

Chiang Mai, Thailand

#280785 Jun 5, 2012

Gwinn, MI

#280786 Jun 5, 2012
,The John Birch Society's website editor recently opined of the Bush Administration's warrantless wiretap program: "This is to say that from the administration's perspective, the president is, in effect, our living constitution. This is, in a specific and unmistakable sense, fascist."

Genuine American fascists are on the run, and part of their survival strategy is to redefine the term "fascism" so it can't be applied to them any more. Most recently, George W. Bush said: "This nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation."

In fact, the Islamic fundamentalists who apparently perpetrated 9/11 and other crimes in Spain and the United Kingdom are advocating a fundamentalist theocracy, not fascism.

But theocracy - the merging of religion and government - is also on the plate for the new American fascists (just as it was for Hitler, who based the Nazi death cult on a "new Christianity" that would bring "a thousand years of peace"), so they don't want to use that term, either.

While the Republicans promote the term "Islamo-fascism," the rest of the world is pushing back,
Mussolini was quite straightforward about all this. In a 1923 pamphlet titled "The Doctrine of Fascism" he wrote, "If classical liberalism spells individualism, Fascism spells government." But not a government of, by, and for We The People - instead, it would be a government of, by, and for the most powerful corporate interests in the nation.

But American fascists who would want former CEOs as President, Vice President, House Majority Whip, and Senate Majority Leader, and write legislation with corporate interests in mind, don't generally talk to We The People about their real agenda, or the harm it does to small businesses and working people. Instead, as Hitler did with the trade union leaders and the Jews, they point to a "them" to pin with blame and distract people from the harms of their economic policies. President Roosevelt and Vice President Wallace's warnings have come full circle. Thus it's now critical that we reclaim the word "fascist" to describe current-day Republican policies, support progressive websites that spread the good word, and join together this November at the ballot box to stop fascist election fraud and this most recent incarnation of Republican-fascism from seizing complete and irretrievable control of our nation.

Oakland, CA

#280787 Jun 5, 2012
arbitrageur wrote:
<quoted text>
Put the bong, down, Frankly.
This is what you just got through posting?
“And now they look at Wisconsin, and they see America’s battleground between people who want to work together to solve problems, and people who want to divide and conquer — people who know that creative cooperation is working in America, and people who want constant conflict."
Obviously, it begs the question (that I just asked you).
Would you like me to ask it again?
Howdy sandbox boy, I know what I said but "divide and conquer" is Scott Walker's baby your sand-box routine is kicking sand in your face

United States

#280788 Jun 5, 2012
rider wrote:
<quoted text>Build the military because we all know there isn't any fraud in war. Give tax exempt status to religious and charitable org as there is no fraud in them. lmao! Subsidies to big oil because they are fraudless.
Oil companies should get subsidies because they only make 6 cents on a gallon but the government takes over 60 cents in taxes

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