Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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You claimed GOD didn't give the LEVIRATE marriage law you ignorant **ng hick.
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NO I did not you are a dumb dumb
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concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text> So again I do not dispute Jews practiced Polygamy and that is why so many times in the OT God brings his Judgement Upon the Jews allows them to be taken into slavery for being disobedient.
BUT NO WHERE DOES GOD COMMAND IT OR ENDORSE IT IN THE BIBLE.
NO THE BIBLE SPEAKS AGAINST IT AND SAYS IT ONLY LEADS TO FOLLY.
SO DUMB DUMB go have all the wives you like and receive your just dessert but it will not go well for you or the LDS on judgement day.
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Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.
Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.
This is called LEVARITE MARRIAGE, & LAW
Elders in COURT, were also commanded, to try to talk men into explaining why they won't do it: explain there is a punishment,
and punish a man who won't.
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Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:
her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.
25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.
25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,
"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."
25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;
25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,
***and spit in his face***,
and shall answer and say,
"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."
25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
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The LAW COMMANDS.
The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey
The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***
The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.
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This is what it feels like to Egypt to be a Satanically mind-darkened deceiver of mankind: Lie, be caught lying, lie more: there's nobody watching him do it.
Refuted and debunked on last page and previous pages adnossium

Pleas keep posting to show all here you cannot refute the evidence at, please keep posting to show all you are a dumb dumb.

Much appreciated.

Truth Matters you have not posted any yet we are all waiting for you to show us that your faith has some merit to it other than the delusions of your mind.

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You have REPEATEDLY claimed the Lord never commanded nor approved of polygamy:
I've showed the world here, you're a lying, Satanic sociopath.
Your false Satanic claim is
"The Lord never commanded polygamy."
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Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.
Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.
Elders also commanded, to try to talk men into it: and punish a man who won't.
Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:
her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.
25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.
25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,
"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."
25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;
25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,
***and spit in his face***,
and shall answer and say,
"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."
25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
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The LAW COMMANDS.
The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey
The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***
The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.
You're a Satan possessed, family & heterosexualityhating,
pathological liar,
who'll try yet to claim it isn't in the Bible.
As we see it is.
It's called Levirate marriage.
Carol, you're starting to get senile, you're repeating yourself.

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You seem to be having issues with this and as a 30 year member of the Mormon church who insinuates he read and swallowed all the teachings preached to him, you're ignorance and self inflated anti-Mormon ego is showing badly dude.
I pasted you what Joseph Smith said God said. It wasn't a commandment. And yet you question the difference between a commandment and a requirement. Commandments in this case are of God. Requirements are usually of men. In some cases of God. You can find 'requirements' from God in the Bible if you look that weren't stated as a commandment.
Try it this way. Why don't you search it out and see if any of the prophets have stated God lied, that the WoW was by way of a commandment, not a requirement and than get back to me with your proof it was given as a commandment.
SALVATION AND A CUP OF TEA.... my brethren, if you drink coffee or tea, or take tobacco are you letting a cup of tea or a little tobacco stand in the road and bar you from the celestial kingdom of God, where you might otherwise have received a fulness of glory?... There is not anything that is little in this world in the aggregate. One cup of tea, then it is another cup of tea and another cup of tea, and when you get them all together, they are not so little (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 2, p. 16).

Without question, the Word of Wisdom is one of the COMMANDMENTS which we most need to obey in these days, due to the great quantity of stimulants and drugs that have weakened the lives of those individuals who ignore the marvelous promises that the Lord has made to men if they will avoid using these harmful substances.

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1990/1...

"No official member in this Church is worthy to hold an office after having the word of wisdom properly taught him; and he, the official member, neglecting to comply with and obey it." ( Joseph Fielding Smith (ed.)(1938). Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book) p. 117, n. 9.

President McKay taught and testified that the Word of Wisdom was a commandment given by the Lord to bless us both physically and spiritually. In his teachings as well as his actions, he strictly obeyed this commandment.

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp...

The LDS leaders say you are wrong.

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NOPE once again its no surprise with no surprise just accusations and hear say that are backed up with nothing.
YOU operate and accuse just like the Devil does Mmmmmm
I don't think this a coincidence
Truth and Facts matter not your Hear Say.
lol...yeah yeah yeah...why don't you come out of that pyramid? Seems a lack of fresh oxygen has you babbling on like a foolish idiot again, just saying :)

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Do you have any evidence to show why Mormons should be considered Christian?
Or are you just here to show everybody you are an Idiot?
lol...yeah yeah yeah...why don't you come out of that pyramid? Seems a lack of fresh oxygen has you babbling on like a foolish idiot again, just saying :)

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SALVATION AND A CUP OF TEA.... my brethren, if you drink coffee or tea, or take tobacco are you letting a cup of tea or a little tobacco stand in the road and bar you from the celestial kingdom of God, where you might otherwise have received a fulness of glory?... There is not anything that is little in this world in the aggregate. One cup of tea, then it is another cup of tea and another cup of tea, and when you get them all together, they are not so little (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 2, p. 16).
Without question, the Word of Wisdom is one of the COMMANDMENTS which we most need to obey in these days, due to the great quantity of stimulants and drugs that have weakened the lives of those individuals who ignore the marvelous promises that the Lord has made to men if they will avoid using these harmful substances.
https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1990/1...
"No official member in this Church is worthy to hold an office after having the word of wisdom properly taught him; and he, the official member, neglecting to comply with and obey it." ( Joseph Fielding Smith (ed.)(1938). Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book) p. 117, n. 9.
President McKay taught and testified that the Word of Wisdom was a commandment given by the Lord to bless us both physically and spiritually. In his teachings as well as his actions, he strictly obeyed this commandment.
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp...
The LDS leaders say you are wrong.
EDUARDO AYALA is not a prophet of the LDS church to my knowledge.

The following was the introduction, not said or written by McKay... "President McKay taught and testified that the Word of Wisdom was a commandment..."
I read that entire page. Not a single time did that prophet McKay call the WoW "a commandment".
He did state... "The Word of Wisdom is a vital part of the gospel, which is “the power of God unto salvation”—physical salvation as well as spiritual salvation."
And he did state... " It is a doctrine given to man for man’s happiness and benefit."
McKay never called it a commandment in that link. You'll have to do better.
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And just in case you need a refresher for what you should be able to type out from memory... "..not by commandment or constraint,.."
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1 A Word of Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the word of wisdom, showing forth the order and will of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

3 Given for a principle with promise, adapted to the capacity of the weak and the weakest of all saints, who are or can be called saints.

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EDUARDO AYALA is not a prophet of the LDS church to my knowledge.
Doesn't have to be a prophet, he is a General Authority picked to represent the LDS church. His speech was given at General Conference, which was approval before he was allowed to give it. It has been reposted on the LDS web site without correction.
The following was the introduction, not said or written by McKay... "President McKay taught and testified that the Word of Wisdom was a commandment..."
I read that entire page. Not a single time did that prophet McKay call the WoW "a commandment".
He did state... "The Word of Wisdom is a vital part of the gospel, which is “the power of God unto salvation”—physical salvation as well as spiritual salvation."
And he did state... " It is a doctrine given to man for man’s happiness and benefit."
McKay never called it a commandment in that link. You'll have to do better.
If it is a "vital" part of your salvation, that is a commandment. Words mean something. You do love to strain at gnats.
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And just in case you need a refresher for what you should be able to type out from memory... "..not by commandment or constraint,.."
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1 A Word of Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the word of wisdom, showing forth the order and will of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—
3 Given for a principle with promise, adapted to the capacity of the weak and the weakest of all saints, who are or can be called saints.
Living it is required today to hold any office in the LDS church, to get a temple recommend, or to even join the church. That makes it a commandment by any definition of the word.

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The Word of Wisdom put restrictions on members of the Church. To this day those regulations apply to every member and to everyone who seeks to join the Church. They are so compelling that no one is to be baptized into the Church without first agreeing to live by them. No one will be called to teach or to lead unless they accept them. When you want to go to the temple, you will be asked if you keep the Word of Wisdom. If you do not, you cannot go to the house of the Lord until you are fully worthy.
While the revelation came first as a “greeting; not by commandment or constraint”(D&C 89:2), when members of the Church had had time to be taught the import of the revelation, succeeding Presidents of the Church declared it to be a commandment. And it was accepted by the Church as such.

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/1996/04...

"September 9, 1851, President Brigham Young stated that the members of the Church had had sufficient time to be taught the import of this revelation and that henceforth it was to be considered a divine commandment. This was first put to vote before the female members of the congregation and then before the men and by unanimous vote accepted. President Joseph F. Smith at a conference meeting in October 1908, made the same statement, and this has been repeated from time to time." - Joseph Fielding Smith, Answers to Gospel Questions, Vol 1. Chapter 48 page 196.

"The Word of Wisdom is today a commandment of the Lord to us, first given to us "not by constraint or commandment," but of later years given to us by the Prophet Brigham Young and by the Prophet Joseph F. Smith as a commandment to this people." -Heber J. Grant, Improvement Era 19:833, June 9, 1916

"The Word of Wisdom is a commandment. In 1851 President Brigham Young gave to this Church the Word of Wisdom as a final and definite commandment. From the time it was given to the Prophet Joseph until 1851 it was considered as a matter of preference or suggestions to the people, a word of advice and counsel. From 1851 until this day it is a commandment to all the members of the Church of Jesus Christ. " - Spencer W. Kimball, The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, chapter 8, page 201.

It is useful to remember that the first 3 verses of D&C 89 are not part of the actual Revelation but are clerical notes added to the Revelation. The word of the Lord comes after verse 3.

And check for yourself all the references to obeying it in General Conference through the years for yourself:
http://www.lds.org/search...

Again, you are only fooling yourself.

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Doesn't have to be a prophet, he is a General Authority picked to represent the LDS church. His speech was given at General Conference, which was approval before he was allowed to give it. It has been reposted on the LDS web site without correction.
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If it is a "vital" part of your salvation, that is a commandment. Words mean something. You do love to strain at gnats.
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Living it is required today to hold any office in the LDS church, to get a temple recommend, or to even join the church. That makes it a commandment by any definition of the word.
I didn't ask for the comment from a GA or a Seventy etc. A prophet of that church gave the WOW by way of revelation.
So I asked of you...
"Try it this way. Why don't you search it out and see if any of the prophets have stated God lied, that the WoW was by way of a commandment, not a requirement and than get back to me with your proof it was given as a commandment."
I know what GA's have said and seventies etc. The WoW over time has came to be interpreted as a 'commandment'. But the fact remains the WoW wasn't recognized as a 'commandment' until the church had been 100 years old.
The WoW wasn't given as a commandment. LDS leaders since the early 1920s have interpreted it as a commandment. And there is strong evidence to show the WoW can be interpreted as such. But that doesn't take away from the fact that Smith made a statement. An undisputed statement no matter who interprets the WoW to their own opinion to being a commandment. Smith stated the WoW DIDN'T COME BY WAY AS A COMMANDMENT. So go argue with Smith, not me :)

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Dana Robertson wrote:
The Word of Wisdom put restrictions on members of the Church. To this day those regulations apply to every member and to everyone who seeks to join the Church. They are so compelling that no one is to be baptized into the Church without first agreeing to live by them. No one will be called to teach or to lead unless they accept them. When you want to go to the temple, you will be asked if you keep the Word of Wisdom. If you do not, you cannot go to the house of the Lord until you are fully worthy.
While the revelation came first as a “greeting; not by commandment or constraint”(D&C 89:2), when members of the Church had had time to be taught the import of the revelation, succeeding Presidents of the Church declared it to be a commandment. And it was accepted by the Church as such.
http://www.lds.org/general-conference/1996/04...
"September 9, 1851, President Brigham Young stated that the members of the Church had had sufficient time to be taught the import of this revelation and that henceforth it was to be considered a divine commandment. This was first put to vote before the female members of the congregation and then before the men and by unanimous vote accepted. President Joseph F. Smith at a conference meeting in October 1908, made the same statement, and this has been repeated from time to time." - Joseph Fielding Smith, Answers to Gospel Questions, Vol 1. Chapter 48 page 196.
"The Word of Wisdom is today a commandment of the Lord to us, first given to us "not by constraint or commandment," but of later years given to us by the Prophet Brigham Young and by the Prophet Joseph F. Smith as a commandment to this people." -Heber J. Grant, Improvement Era 19:833, June 9, 1916
"The Word of Wisdom is a commandment. In 1851 President Brigham Young gave to this Church the Word of Wisdom as a final and definite commandment. From the time it was given to the Prophet Joseph until 1851 it was considered as a matter of preference or suggestions to the people, a word of advice and counsel. From 1851 until this day it is a commandment to all the members of the Church of Jesus Christ. " - Spencer W. Kimball, The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, chapter 8, page 201.
It is useful to remember that the first 3 verses of D&C 89 are not part of the actual Revelation but are clerical notes added to the Revelation. The word of the Lord comes after verse 3.
And check for yourself all the references to obeying it in General Conference through the years for yourself:
http://www.lds.org/search...
Again, you are only fooling yourself.
So you actually did some research this time, congratulations :)
By the way, I acknowledged that the LDS saw the WoW as a commandment. I stated that twice. And your references validated prophets called it as such.
One thing you're missing. It was never said by a prophet to be a revelation from God that the WoW that once didn't come by way of commandment, was now revealed by God to be taken as a commandment. like as happened with polygamy. Just saying :)
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mormons are crazy, with their fake made up book and crazy ways

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So you actually did some research this time, congratulations :)
By the way, I acknowledged that the LDS saw the WoW as a commandment. I stated that twice. And your references validated prophets called it as such.
One thing you're missing. It was never said by a prophet to be a revelation from God that the WoW that once didn't come by way of commandment, was now revealed by God to be taken as a commandment. like as happened with polygamy. Just saying :)
Silly games won't make the LDS church true.
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Is God a Father to All Mankind?

What does the Mormon Church teach concerning man's relationship with God the Father?

What does the Mormon Church teach concerning man's relationship with God the Father?

"The designation Father is to be taken literally; it signifies that the Supreme Being is the literal Parent or Father of the spirits of all men.(Hebrews 12:9.) All men, Christ included, were born as his children in pre-existence...It is only by understanding the real and literal sense in which God is our Father that we are able to understand what is meant by the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man. In addition to the fact that all men are brothers in the sense that all have descended from Adam, they are also brothers in that they have the same personal Father who begat them in the spirit." (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 278)

This same teaching is echoed in a manual for new LDS converts so that they "can learn the basic principles of the gospel and become better prepared to live them." (Gospel Principles, 1)

"God is not only our ruler and our creator, he is also our Heavenly Father.'All men and women are...literally the sons and daughters of Deity....Man, as a spirit, was begotten and born of heavenly parents, and reared to maturity in the eternal mansions of the Father, prior to coming upon the earth in a temporal [physical] body'(Joseph F. Smith,'The Origin of Man,' Improvement Era, Nov. 1909, 78, 80). Every person who was ever born on earth was our spirit brother or sister in heaven. The first spirit born to our heavenly parents was Jesus Christ (see D&C 93:21)." (Gospel Principles, 9)

Plainly then, the Mormon Church teaches that God the Father is indeed each person's spiritual father. Does this agree with the teachings from the Bible?

The Apostle John teaches that some people belong to God and others do not: "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God...Beloved, now are we the sons of God...In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil; whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother." (1 John 3:1-10)

Jesus is in agreement that some people are not children of God. To a group of Jewish listeners, Jesus proclaimed, "If God were your Father, ye would love me... Ye are of your father the devil..." (John 8:42, 44)

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According to the Bible, having God as your Heavenly Father is not as automatic as the LDS Church teaches. Instead, individuals make a choice to become His child: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name." (John 1:12) Note that once we choose to receive Christ we become something we were not: children of God.

Furthermore, "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God..." (1 John 5:1)

We are adopted into God's family. "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God...ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God." (Romans 8:14-16)

Would God adopt us if we already belonged to Him?

Would He require that we take an action in order to become a child of His?

Would Jesus have told certain Jews that their father was not God and thereby become a liar?

Would the Apostle John clearly have delineated that some people belong to God and others to the devil?

The LDS Church's teaching of the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man may sound appealing, but it is not based in Holy Scripture.

From
http://www.answeringlds.org/index.html...

More verifiable evidence that can be tested. Just on the LDS concept of God the Father alone and how different it is from Biblical and Historical Christianity we can with conviction and truth declare Mormons are not Christians

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Silly games won't make the LDS church true.
lol...it took very little to convince you it was true for over 30 years, so it was true for you for 30 years.

I have a question for you. If Joseph Smith had denied Jesus like Peter denied Jesus thinking it would save his life, how would you be using that information to attack the LDS? Pretend Smith denied his religious philosophy and Jesus who he said it came from because a mob was holding him and threatening his life. So hearing his denials they let him go and later died in the jail shooting.
How would you use that information to prove Smith and his church was false?
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lol...it took very little to convince you it was true for over 30 years, so it was true for you for 30 years.
I have a question for you. If Joseph Smith had denied Jesus like Peter denied Jesus thinking it would save his life, how would you be using that information to attack the LDS? Pretend Smith denied his religious philosophy and Jesus who he said it came from because a mob was holding him and threatening his life. So hearing his denials they let him go and later died in the jail shooting.
How would you use that information to prove Smith and his church was false?
Peter denied Jesus three times.
He repented and Jesus restored him asking him if he loved him three times. Peter was willingly and went to the Cross and was crucified as Jesus prophesied.

Joseph Smith denied the one true Jesus revealed in the Bible all his life told true Christians they were of the devil, committed Adultery, was a pedophile, was a false prophet who died in a shoot out trying to murder men with a gun.

No comparison Joseph Smith was a tool of the Devil
That is why Mormons are not Christians

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Peter denied Jesus three times.
He repented and Jesus restored him asking him if he loved him three times. Peter was willingly and went to the Cross and was crucified as Jesus prophesied.
Joseph Smith denied the one true Jesus revealed in the Bible all his life told true Christians they were of the devil, committed Adultery, was a pedophile, was a false prophet who died in a shoot out trying to murder men with a gun.
No comparison Joseph Smith was a tool of the Devil
That is why Mormons are not Christians
I couldn't answer any better then that. It's sad how he is always trying to compare Smith to Jesus, which is like comparing polluted water to a clear crystal stream. Only the brainwashed wouldn't see the difference.
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I couldn't answer any better then that. It's sad how he is always trying to compare Smith to Jesus, which is like comparing polluted water to a clear crystal stream. Only the brainwashed wouldn't see the difference.
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Feb 18, 2013
 
Observations

Most alleged true believers of these (God, Messiah, Prophet or Saviour) myths are unusually incurious, abnormally unintelligent, amazingly inarticulate, fantastically uncultured, extraordinarily uneducated, and apparently quite proud of this.

Other non believers may select a more rigorous mental workout - I credit this daily infusion of Christian / Mormon nonsense with extending my lifespan and providing a good laugh.

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concerned in Egypt

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Black Skin and the Seed of Cain
another reason in of itself Mormons are not Christians.

http://www.mrm.org/curse-of-cain

Mormon leaders have taught that aeons ago the time came to present a salvation plan for those of God's children who would eventually advance to a mortal state. Two of Elohim's sons, Jehovah (the pre-incarnate Christ) and Lucifer, presented their respective salvation plans for mortal man. According to LDS President Harold B. Lee:

"…Lucifer, a son of God in the spirit world before the earth was formed, proposed a plan under which mortals would be saved without glory and honor of God. The plan of our Savior, Jehovah, was to give to each the right to choose for himself the course he would travel in earth life and all was to be done to the honor and glory of God our Heavenly Father" (Stand Ye In Holy Places, p.219).

When Lucifer's plan was rejected, he rebelled against his brother and father and persuaded a third of God's spirit children to join him. Led by Michael the archangel, the remaining spirit children of God would join in what is known as the war in heaven. Lucifer would lose and become known as Satan; his followers then became demons. Both would be cast out of heaven.

Unfortunately this battle had casualties of another sort. According to LDS Apostle Bruce McConkie, some of those who fought on God's side

"were more valiant than others…Those who were less valiant in pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions imposed upon them during mortality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God and his murder of Abel being a black skin...The present status of the negro rests purely and simply on the foundation of pre-existence" (Mormon Doctrine, p.527, 1966 ed.).

According to Brigham Young, Joseph Smith classified these people as The Seed of Cain. Young said that "Joseph Smith had declared that the Negroes were not neutral in heaven, for all the spirits took sides, but 'the posterity of Cain are black because he (Cain) committed murder. He killed Abel and God set a mark upon his posterity'" (The Way to Perfection, Joseph Fielding Smith, p.105).

Mormon Prophets claim Blacks are inferior

go to the link above to verify the evidence

Truth Matters Mormons are not Christians.

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