Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32007 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#23814 Apr 20, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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You have no clue who your God is.
You have no clue of where your God came from.
You have no clue for why your God has did and created what exists.
You have no idea if your God has form or shape or is a nothingness piece of thought.
You have no idea of what your God has in store for you when you die.
You have not a single clue about anything of your God and the four W's concerning him or if it's a him or a her or a it.
You don't know nothing of your God except what you give a definition of to suit your personal needs.
And you think all of that unknown nothingness is truth matters?
You have absolutely no truth about your God except what people said of him that lived 2000 years ago.
You're relying on 2000 year old information and you claim truth matters and you have no truth. You have opinions.
Yet you think you know if someone else's beliefs are correct or incorrect when you know nothing of the God you worship?
You know nothing and truth doesn't matter to you.
Your opinion matters, not truth.
You wouldn't know truth if it stood in front of you.
Yeh ok read your post, you did not answer one of my questions.

It appears you and the Zebra can't answer basic questions about the Faith you have entrusted your eternal destiny to.

So below are my questions again that you chose not to answer.

Can you answer even ONE of them with verifiable LDS Doctrine that I can verify???

Ok lets try this again.

Just wondering about these levels of heaven you refer to in your post.

How many are there?

Where can I read about them in official LDS Doctrine, Jesus never mentions them in the Bible?
Is it the D&C Pearl of Great Price or the BOM or all the above??

As Hitler is your and my Spirit Brother and we were in Heaven together, and he was white like me, thus he sided with Jesus and I in fighting our Spirit Brother Lucifer in Heaven which level of Heaven will he go to in light of the fact he murdered millions???

Did at some point in time or in the future has or will the LDS baptize Hitler in the your Temple baptisms?

Does the LDS cult make it their practice to baptize dead Pyscho paths that have murdered?

Why does the LDS church now let Blacks into the Temple when B.Y. said they should not and if they do the temple should be torn down.

Is it not true that those who are dark skinned were Neutral in heaven and did not try to stop Lucifer's that's why their skin is dark and not white???

Why if Father God and Mother God are "GODS" and all powerful did they need their offspring to help them discipline and subdue Lucifer their spirit son?
Can Father God make a creation more powerful then himself and if so how seems to fly in the face of logic??

If that is the case and our Father God could not control our Spirit Brother Lucifer and many followed him and he needed our help in heaven is it possible in the future if we are not on our guard or God is not that he could subdue Father God and take over this world??

And if the answer is no why not?

Just asking

You know you and the Zebra keep telling me I am wrong so know I asking questions about your faith and you don't seem to know why you believe what you believe.

Just saying.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23815 Apr 20, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are stupid.
God determines my worth. A temple recommend is a blessing that is earned by doing righteousness, God's Commands.
It is EARNED... and even according to Not Ashamed... she didn't pay full tithe and her temple recommend wasn't taken away.
She must have a Bishop who is kinder than most. I've known bishops who had to see your 1040's before he let you have a temple recommend. But according to the church:

TO ENTER THE TEMPLE YOU MUST BE A FULL-TITHE PAYER and live the Word of Wisdom. These two commandments, simple in their instruction but enormously important in our spiritual growth, are essential in certifying our personal worthiness. Observation over many years has shown that those who faithfully pay their tithing and observe the Word of Wisdom are usually faithful in all other matters that relate to entering the holy temple.

https://www.lds.org/new-era/1995/04/your-temp...

You must not attend your meetings much not to know that.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23816 Apr 20, 2013
http://en.fairmormon.org/Mormonism_and_temple...

Link has the questions given at a interview or a temple recommendation:

"10. Are you a full-tithe payer?"

Poor Carol keeps lying, but her lies keep being shown. LOL!!!

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23817 Apr 20, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
<quoted text>
That is your thinking.
When I think of Jesus Christ ministry, why he came to earth, and what he did while he was here... it strengthens my testimony.
I know Jesus Christ came here to save us from ourselves. We are not perfect that is why we are here. If we were perfect we would be likened unto the people in the City of Enoch.
But, we are not.
//
John 8:7
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
I get God's best, why don't you?

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23818 Apr 20, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You never paid attention at church. For 30 years you never paid attention at church. You didn't pay attention because you didn't want to thus you never learned anything concerning Mormonism 101. Now that you're out, you like to say for emphasis you were a 30 plus years Mormon but the fact you have proved is that claim is factually empty except that you attended the church when forced to go. That explains why you make so many errors about what Mormons believe and what is doctrine, because you don't know. You didn't pay attention because you were forced to go so you refused to learn anything. That explains your lack of knowledge you lie and state you have that you don't know. Get it?
To use your statement, plenty of Mormons chose second best, they did it when you were born into that church and they still do it today. Walk into any ward on a Sunday. Find the bishop or one of his counselors. Ask them how many people attend on average. Than ask how many have temple recommends. Tell them their questions you were just wondering about.
I would wager up to 70% of a ward are non-temple recommends and unless they have to speak of why they don't have a temple recommend, their okay not having a temple recommend. These are your so called "God's second best" in the Mormon church. And most of the Mormon church is made up of this "God's second best" and you didn't even know it.
Not having a temple recommend or having lost one for disobedience/lack of faith has nothing to do with one's salvation with Christ in that church. But it has everything to do with which level of heaven you want or want not to ascend to in the afterlife. And you would have known that if you'd of listened when a member.
Well, if they want second best, Mormonism is certainly the place to get it.
I bet if you you asked those members if they would like to have God's best, every single one of them would say "yes."
You are so pathetic. Maybe you like having God's worst, because you aren't even a member.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23819 Apr 20, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Another unintelligent reply from you as usual. The post was to nomo. I have known nomo longer than I have known you. So you don't know our early history. So for you to claim you do by saying what I said is BS only proves how unintelligent you're willing to be to have something pathetic and stupid to say. Just saying...
Your post wasn't worthy are anything better. If you want intelligent responses, act intelligent. Just saying....

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23820 Apr 20, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no clue who your God is.
You have no clue of where your God came from.
You have no clue for why your God has did and created what exists.
You have no idea if your God has form or shape or is a nothingness piece of thought.
You have no idea of what your God has in store for you when you die.
You have not a single clue about anything of your God and the four W's concerning him or if it's a him or a her or a it.
You don't know nothing of your God except what you give a definition of to suit your personal needs.
And you think all of that unknown nothingness is truth matters?
You have absolutely no truth about your God except what people said of him that lived 2000 years ago.
You're relying on 2000 year old information and you claim truth matters and you have no truth. You have opinions.
Yet you think you know if someone else's beliefs are correct or incorrect when you know nothing of the God you worship?
You know nothing and truth doesn't matter to you.
Your opinion matters, not truth.
You wouldn't know truth if it stood in front of you.
Another pooping your pants moment. Nothing you've said has proven him wrong, nothing.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23821 Apr 20, 2013
concerned in Egypt wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeh ok read your post, you did not answer one of my questions.
It appears you and the Zebra can't answer basic questions about the Faith you have entrusted your eternal destiny to.
So below are my questions again that you chose not to answer.
Can you answer even ONE of them with verifiable LDS Doctrine that I can verify???
Ok lets try this again.
Just wondering about these levels of heaven you refer to in your post.
How many are there?
Where can I read about them in official LDS Doctrine, Jesus never mentions them in the Bible?
Is it the D&C Pearl of Great Price or the BOM or all the above??
As Hitler is your and my Spirit Brother and we were in Heaven together, and he was white like me, thus he sided with Jesus and I in fighting our Spirit Brother Lucifer in Heaven which level of Heaven will he go to in light of the fact he murdered millions???
Did at some point in time or in the future has or will the LDS baptize Hitler in the your Temple baptisms?
Does the LDS cult make it their practice to baptize dead Pyscho paths that have murdered?
Why does the LDS church now let Blacks into the Temple when B.Y. said they should not and if they do the temple should be torn down.
Is it not true that those who are dark skinned were Neutral in heaven and did not try to stop Lucifer's that's why their skin is dark and not white???
Why if Father God and Mother God are "GODS" and all powerful did they need their offspring to help them discipline and subdue Lucifer their spirit son?
Can Father God make a creation more powerful then himself and if so how seems to fly in the face of logic??
If that is the case and our Father God could not control our Spirit Brother Lucifer and many followed him and he needed our help in heaven is it possible in the future if we are not on our guard or God is not that he could subdue Father God and take over this world??
And if the answer is no why not?
Just asking
You know you and the Zebra keep telling me I am wrong so know I asking questions about your faith and you don't seem to know why you believe what you believe.
Just saying.
I see another emotional meltdown coming soon.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#23822 Apr 20, 2013
concerned in Egypt wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeh ok read your post, you did not answer one of my questions.
Okay, I read you post and see you didn't have the courage/truth to answer my questions.
You're always demanding answers to your questions. So let's halt your usual demanding process and you answer questions for once.

I want answers for my questions as Mormons have answers for God. If you have none then state so.

Who is God? What is God? Did God come from somewhere? Did God create himself out of nothing? Or did a nothingness create God into something?
Does God have a gender? If God doesn't have gender why do most all of his creations have gender? Didn't God have the power to make non-gender living things? If God has no gender why would he make living things with a gender unlike himself?
Is God a he, a she or an it? And how do you know?
Why did God create these heavens and things if he has no need of us for any specific purpose? Is he just wasting his time making things like a child makes things out of sand in a sand box out of boredom?
What is the next stage of life going to be like? How do you know? How will we know each other?
God said he sent one third of the heavenly host to this earth as a prison. Where are they? Why can't we see them? Why can't they talk to us and tell us things we don't know concerning God? God said they're here, is he a liar that their not here?
Jesus appointed a lover of money for an apostle. Why would he do that? He appointed other apostles that would doubt what he taught. He appointed one that said he never knew Jesus. The same one tried to murder a man. Why would Jesus appoint such men with so many problems? Didn't Jesus have the wisdom to choose men that would believe in him and wouldn't deny knowing him and weren't violent and weren't lovers of money?
If God has no beginning and no ending, why does God allow all his knowledge to be put in a book that has a beginning and has an ending. That's a contradiction in itself.
Truth matters.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#23823 Apr 20, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Another unintelligent reply from you as usual. The post was to nomo. I have known nomo longer than I have known you. So you don't know our early history. So for you to claim you do by saying what I said is BS only proves how unintelligent you're willing to be to have something pathetic and stupid to say. Just saying...
Seriously, something is wrong with you. I sincerely hope you seek a mental health care professional.
Living a lie takes a toll on your mental health. It can get better... If you can't do it for yourself, do it for your family
...and then f off. Your lies are tired..

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#23824 Apr 20, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, I read you post and see you didn't have the courage/truth to answer my questions.
You're always demanding answers to your questions. So let's halt your usual demanding process and you answer questions for once.
I want answers for my questions as Mormons have answers for God. If you have none then state so.
Who is God? What is God? Did God come from somewhere? Did God create himself out of nothing? Or did a nothingness create God into something?
Does God have a gender? If God doesn't have gender why do most all of his creations have gender? Didn't God have the power to make non-gender living things? If God has no gender why would he make living things with a gender unlike himself?
Is God a he, a she or an it? And how do you know?
Why did God create these heavens and things if he has no need of us for any specific purpose? Is he just wasting his time making things like a child makes things out of sand in a sand box out of boredom?
What is the next stage of life going to be like? How do you know? How will we know each other?
God said he sent one third of the heavenly host to this earth as a prison. Where are they? Why can't we see them? Why can't they talk to us and tell us things we don't know concerning God? God said they're here, is he a liar that their not here?
Jesus appointed a lover of money for an apostle. Why would he do that? He appointed other apostles that would doubt what he taught. He appointed one that said he never knew Jesus. The same one tried to murder a man. Why would Jesus appoint such men with so many problems? Didn't Jesus have the wisdom to choose men that would believe in him and wouldn't deny knowing him and weren't violent and weren't lovers of money?
If God has no beginning and no ending, why does God allow all his knowledge to be put in a book that has a beginning and has an ending. That's a contradiction in itself.
Truth matters.
How about admitting you can't answer his questions instead of several paragraphs of gibberish?

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#23825 Apr 20, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, I read you post and see you didn't have the courage/truth to answer my questions.
You're always demanding answers to your questions. So let's halt your usual demanding process and you answer questions for once.
I want answers for my questions as Mormons have answers for God. If you have none then state so.
Who is God? What is God? Did God come from somewhere? Did God create himself out of nothing? Or did a nothingness create God into something?
Does God have a gender? If God doesn't have gender why do most all of his creations have gender? Didn't God have the power to make non-gender living things? If God has no gender why would he make living things with a gender unlike himself?
Is God a he, a she or an it? And how do you know?
Why did God create these heavens and things if he has no need of us for any specific purpose? Is he just wasting his time making things like a child makes things out of sand in a sand box out of boredom?
What is the next stage of life going to be like? How do you know? How will we know each other?
God said he sent one third of the heavenly host to this earth as a prison. Where are they? Why can't we see them? Why can't they talk to us and tell us things we don't know concerning God? God said they're here, is he a liar that their not here?
Jesus appointed a lover of money for an apostle. Why would he do that? He appointed other apostles that would doubt what he taught. He appointed one that said he never knew Jesus. The same one tried to murder a man. Why would Jesus appoint such men with so many problems? Didn't Jesus have the wisdom to choose men that would believe in him and wouldn't deny knowing him and weren't violent and weren't lovers of money?
If God has no beginning and no ending, why does God allow all his knowledge to be put in a book that has a beginning and has an ending. That's a contradiction in itself.
Truth matters.
Just as predicted, and right on cue.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#23826 Apr 20, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, if they want second best, Mormonism is certainly the place to get it.
I bet if you you asked those members if they would like to have God's best, every single one of them would say "yes."
You are so pathetic. Maybe you like having God's worst, because you aren't even a member.
lol...that's funny seeing how MC(modern Christianity)has not a clue of what heaven or hell is, where it will be or who will go there and who won't.

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#23827 Apr 20, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
She must have a Bishop who is kinder than most. I've known bishops who had to see your 1040's before he let you have a temple recommend. But according to the church:
TO ENTER THE TEMPLE YOU MUST BE A FULL-TITHE PAYER and live the Word of Wisdom. These two commandments, simple in their instruction but enormously important in our spiritual growth, are essential in certifying our personal worthiness. Observation over many years has shown that those who faithfully pay their tithing and observe the Word of Wisdom are usually faithful in all other matters that relate to entering the holy temple.
https://www.lds.org/new-era/1995/04/your-temp...
You must not attend your meetings much not to know that.
I have had plenty of Bishops... and never a single one had to see my 1040's.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#23828 Apr 20, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
lol...that's funny seeing how MC(modern Christianity)has not a clue of what heaven or hell is, where it will be or who will go there and who won't.
.,.and Mormons profit off the concept.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#23829 Apr 20, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Your post wasn't worthy are anything better. If you want intelligent responses, act intelligent. Just saying....
And you think your posts are any better? You didn't know half of my history with nomo and you pretended you did by saying all I said concerning it was BS...lol.
At times like this you're nothing but an ignorant little child with immature things to say who doesn't use the God given intelligence he gave you to formulate intelligent replies.
So flap your lips in defense of a black hearted female that has so many people in several threads actually hating her because of how she responds in such dark vulgar ways she and you see as well and good.
You keep on defending her black hearted statements, you're not too far off the mark of becoming what she is.

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#23830 Apr 20, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, if they want second best, Mormonism is certainly the place to get it.
I bet if you you asked those members if they would like to have God's best, every single one of them would say "yes."
You are so pathetic. Maybe you like having God's worst, because you aren't even a member.
Yea, I see the Army building so many Temples in the world today worshiping Christ.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#23831 Apr 20, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Another pooping your pants moment. Nothing you've said has proven him wrong, nothing.
I wasn't trying to prove him wrong in anything ignoramus...lol....
But as I stated to him I'll state to you...
You have no clue who you're God is.
You have no clue of where your God came from.
You have no clue for why your God has did and created what exists.
You have no idea if your God has form or shape or is a nothingness piece of thought.
You have no idea of what your God has in store for you when you die.
You have not a single clue about anything of your God and the four W's concerning him or if it's a him or a her or a it.
You don't know nothing of your God except what you give a definition of to suit your personal needs.
And you think all of that unknown nothingness is truth matters?
You have absolutely no truth about your God except what people said of him that lived 2000 years ago.
You're relying on 2000 year old information and you claim truth matters and you have no truth. You have opinions.
Yet you think you know if someone else's beliefs are correct or incorrect when you know nothing of the God you worship?
You know nothing and truth doesn't matter to you.
Your opinion matters, not truth.
You wouldn't know truth if it stood in front of you.

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#23832 Apr 20, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
I get God's best, why don't you?
I Said:

God determines my worth. A temple recommend is a blessing that is earned by doing righteousness, God's Commands.

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#23833 Apr 20, 2013
Dana,

Tithing is considered to be a Biblical teaching:

Genesis 28:20-22
Then Jacob made a vow, saying,“If God will be with me and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat and clothing to wear, so that I come again to my father's house in peace, then the Lord shall be my God, and this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, shall be God's house. And of all that you give me I will give a full tenth to you.”

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